HKA DFO Resigns....
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Oh, such civility here....... 
"Lets not slander each other", it was requested (courtesy not extended to EC, of course). While we are having a few pokes at "E", why not go slander and slime the rest of the "uncivilised" world as well?
It would almost seem pointless to carry on, but in all fairness to the affected, especially the wretched still toiling with HKA, the final couple of corrections/advises.
Sure, not many of us would have sweet thoughts of the authorities, even if we dug really deep. But why would so many (or maybe, just a few, with many names) slander 'ONE'? Is there some hidden agenda? Perhaps trying to discredit?
When mostly, if not all the Almighty "E" was doing, is his job.
When FOP management is incompetent, it shows in the standards and discipline of operations. That 'idiot' E was just trying to keep those operating under these conditions alive, and not have your "Extremely High" 1st world standards compromised.
First Officers of HKA - It was a convenient "untruth" that upgrades were halted by CAD, SURE it was, and it will be, long as the present FOP managers are allowed to continue seeking approvals for pathetically constructed courses.
Much more...... but let's leave it to those really affected, start seeing with their own eyes, the mess their "managers" created (which will be left behind, when they are forced to leave), make up their own minds.
It was exactly GR's "PAST" that got you here, certain "embellishments" to his credentials got him to where he can do you such damage. His amateurish attempts have cost all of you dearly, and belied his lack of experience and exposed his inadequacies.
Not too much longer, lets hope. Anyway, the REAL truth will be spoken soon, and all of this would be moot, as shall this entire string.
To our comrades everywhere in the flying community outside of the fox-hole we have dug for ourselves here, many apologies for the extremely unkind comments posted. Please ignore them, for they do not reflect the true sentiments of the majority, am sure.
To generalise and condemn by nationalities, race or groupings of any sort is completely uncalled for and reeks of racism.
There are scores of these "foreigners" operating with some of the safest airlines in the world, and most if not all of us, would agree that professionalism and proficiency in aviation are not attributes found solely in the western world.
Unsafe and dangerous operations or practices are in most cases, a by-product of poor organisational management and oversight (not as "many" bigots here have claimed, or implied, the shortcomings or limitations of individuals from any defined nation or culture)
If GR and his "PAST" is permitted to continue haunting HKA, that's where it will end up.
As for the rest of the "untruths", will not waste any more time on it, more smearing by the SAME "few" individuals. Starting to see a familiar style and pattern here? Again? 
GR and Assoc. - The End Is Near ...... or is it already here?
Time to give thanks? Seems like the right time of the year.
The Affected - Hope things turn out fine, should know soon.
To The Rest - Have a Blessed Thanksgiving Weekend, have fun.
FINAL POST, as implied, High Speed Pass............
"Lets not slander each other", it was requested (courtesy not extended to EC, of course). While we are having a few pokes at "E", why not go slander and slime the rest of the "uncivilised" world as well?
It would almost seem pointless to carry on, but in all fairness to the affected, especially the wretched still toiling with HKA, the final couple of corrections/advises.
Sure, not many of us would have sweet thoughts of the authorities, even if we dug really deep. But why would so many (or maybe, just a few, with many names) slander 'ONE'? Is there some hidden agenda? Perhaps trying to discredit?
When mostly, if not all the Almighty "E" was doing, is his job.
When FOP management is incompetent, it shows in the standards and discipline of operations. That 'idiot' E was just trying to keep those operating under these conditions alive, and not have your "Extremely High" 1st world standards compromised.
First Officers of HKA - It was a convenient "untruth" that upgrades were halted by CAD, SURE it was, and it will be, long as the present FOP managers are allowed to continue seeking approvals for pathetically constructed courses.
Much more...... but let's leave it to those really affected, start seeing with their own eyes, the mess their "managers" created (which will be left behind, when they are forced to leave), make up their own minds.
It was exactly GR's "PAST" that got you here, certain "embellishments" to his credentials got him to where he can do you such damage. His amateurish attempts have cost all of you dearly, and belied his lack of experience and exposed his inadequacies.
Not too much longer, lets hope. Anyway, the REAL truth will be spoken soon, and all of this would be moot, as shall this entire string.
To our comrades everywhere in the flying community outside of the fox-hole we have dug for ourselves here, many apologies for the extremely unkind comments posted. Please ignore them, for they do not reflect the true sentiments of the majority, am sure.
To generalise and condemn by nationalities, race or groupings of any sort is completely uncalled for and reeks of racism.
There are scores of these "foreigners" operating with some of the safest airlines in the world, and most if not all of us, would agree that professionalism and proficiency in aviation are not attributes found solely in the western world.
Unsafe and dangerous operations or practices are in most cases, a by-product of poor organisational management and oversight (not as "many" bigots here have claimed, or implied, the shortcomings or limitations of individuals from any defined nation or culture)
If GR and his "PAST" is permitted to continue haunting HKA, that's where it will end up.
As for the rest of the "untruths", will not waste any more time on it, more smearing by the SAME "few" individuals. Starting to see a familiar style and pattern here? Again?
GR and Assoc. - The End Is Near ...... or is it already here?
Time to give thanks? Seems like the right time of the year.
The Affected - Hope things turn out fine, should know soon.
To The Rest - Have a Blessed Thanksgiving Weekend, have fun.
FINAL POST, as implied, High Speed Pass............
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Highspeed..
Are you sure you don't have a personal beef with GR? For someone who only gets the info second hand you seem to have an unhealthy obsession in getting the "truth" out there. This source of yours must be real persuasive..
Are you sure you don't have a personal beef with GR? For someone who only gets the info second hand you seem to have an unhealthy obsession in getting the "truth" out there. This source of yours must be real persuasive..
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Highspeed Pass,
You're so wrong about Eric "the idiot" its almost comical.
The course was a carbon copy of other HKCAD approved courses.
The ONLY reason is was not approved, is that The Idiot wanted a command.
You're so wrong about Eric "the idiot" its almost comical.
The course was a carbon copy of other HKCAD approved courses.
The ONLY reason is was not approved, is that The Idiot wanted a command.
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HSP, you sound very much like a former work mate of the person you so vehemently attack here on this forum, and indeed if this is the case, and if you are who I think you are, your own history is even shakier than than the one you are so critical of.
I don't see the point of your attacking one individual, apart from a personal vendetta, and ignoring the bigger picture of what's going on in HKA.
Care to explain?
I don't see the point of your attacking one individual, apart from a personal vendetta, and ignoring the bigger picture of what's going on in HKA.
Care to explain?
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Watch it guys.... the singaporean mob is comming, including the medicallly grounded AHK mgnt pilot..DFO to be...so mention by earlier tread.."Singaporen snakes in the bush"..lured by the CAD Eric!!!
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Since my big promotion iz has been hard at work sinding out sarcastice email replies to ligitimate legiti lig…. Real operational concerns. So please don’t think I’m not doing a good job. Because I is trying rill hard!!!!!!
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I guess better may not be the word for it. However, being banned from Europe probably gives a sign on the state of the safety issues that Indonesian airlines face. "Safer" or more aware of what safety actually means, may well be the reason that we consider our Indonesian cousins to be more of a danger in the aviation industry.
Blame us all you like, being racist or whatever, but until Indonesian airlines are allowed back into Europe as well as a general clean up of the safety issues that Indonesian airlines face( not isolated to Indonesia, but clearly highlighted with the recent accident record) then unfortunately Indonesian pilots will have a bad rep.
Blame us all you like, being racist or whatever, but until Indonesian airlines are allowed back into Europe as well as a general clean up of the safety issues that Indonesian airlines face( not isolated to Indonesia, but clearly highlighted with the recent accident record) then unfortunately Indonesian pilots will have a bad rep.
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ICAO n FAA they dont banned all Indonesian Airlines..only EU...interesting..
funny part..when they(EU team doing audit) were on the way to jakarta..they pulled out the ban..
I am thinking to send letter to press that AHK is not a safe airlines..coz so many indonesian pilots inside
funny part..when they(EU team doing audit) were on the way to jakarta..they pulled out the ban..
I am thinking to send letter to press that AHK is not a safe airlines..coz so many indonesian pilots inside
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chill mates ... let's not get too "HOT" here.
Mr. Sandu, "I am thinking to send letter to press that AHK is not a safe airlines..coz so many indonesian pilots inside "
This is not AHK if you do pay a little more attention reading clearly on the topic and posts made here.
Well I do have to agree that carriers in Indonesia now currently have the highest records with concern to safety and accidents.
Let'd not just simply name someone "mafia" but at the rate he is going and the word going around town hmmm alot of funny things are happening behind closed doors ? If "mafia" is really a "mafia" i guess he wouldn't be getting alot of support from the present guys and probably alot of disagreement.
Mr. Sandu, "I am thinking to send letter to press that AHK is not a safe airlines..coz so many indonesian pilots inside "
This is not AHK if you do pay a little more attention reading clearly on the topic and posts made here.
Well I do have to agree that carriers in Indonesia now currently have the highest records with concern to safety and accidents.
Let'd not just simply name someone "mafia" but at the rate he is going and the word going around town hmmm alot of funny things are happening behind closed doors ? If "mafia" is really a "mafia" i guess he wouldn't be getting alot of support from the present guys and probably alot of disagreement.
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Yeah, well good luck with that. What are they gonna do, head down to the local aeroclub where all the unemployed local jet pilots hang out? If there were any unemployed HK locals meeting HKA experience requirements (and unable to earn more elsewhere..) they'd already be hired. HKA has always had the door wide open to locals, just the same as CX and KA (otherwise they would not be able to sponsor any work permits for expats)
They can wish and wish as hard as they like, but without a happy, stable and mostly expat workforce their long term growth will be stunted at best. With supposedly 7-10 more 737s coming next year starting Q1 and the first of 20 A330-200 deliveries in Q4, it'll be pay or park time in 2008
They can wish and wish as hard as they like, but without a happy, stable and mostly expat workforce their long term growth will be stunted at best. With supposedly 7-10 more 737s coming next year starting Q1 and the first of 20 A330-200 deliveries in Q4, it'll be pay or park time in 2008