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I have said what I came to say! The reason for "cxwannabe" as my handle is because I know many wannabes read this forum for information concerning joining CX. What better way to draw wannabes to your post than to ask the question. CXWANNABE?
For those who doubt whether I am with CX or not ask yourself why I would waste my time in the first place? A330, now go play with your icons and toy airplanes!
All I was hoping to do was inform you all about the situation here in HK. Now it's time to go and read the new contract I've just received....(second imposed contract in as many years!)
For those who doubt whether I am with CX or not ask yourself why I would waste my time in the first place? A330, now go play with your icons and toy airplanes!
All I was hoping to do was inform you all about the situation here in HK. Now it's time to go and read the new contract I've just received....(second imposed contract in as many years!)
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you just don't get it ... if you're so great or good , why keep on struggling ?? just walk and go somewhere else if you're so good ... why not ? no need to struggle anymore and go and get a job like you always wanted or maybe start your own airline and you get to do what you wanna do .... what do you think about that ? 
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What do I think A330......I think you are a pathetic idiot. It is your kind that is destructive to our profession. We know who you are, so don't bother applying. Your stay here at CX would be EXTREMELY miserable. 
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13 JULY - RYANAIR FIRE CHAIRMAN OF IRISH AIRLINE PILOTS UNION (HMMMM, IT'S CATCHING ON - ARE THE UNION GOING TO TELL THE REST OF THE FLYING WORLD NOT TO JOIN RYANAIR ?)
On Thursday 5th July, Captain X disrupted and delayed departure of Flight FR 226, when he insisted that he (and his crew) would not position to STN on the jump seats that were available and would only position in the cabin thereby forcing our ramp staff to try to off load some of our checked in, fare paying passengers. Captain X was instructed by operations to position on the jump seat, he refused and was therefore off loaded from the flight.
It is entirely unacceptable for any employee of this airline (be they front line staff, cabin crew, pilots, management or even board members) to refuse to travel on a jump seat or insist that they will only travel in the cabin, thereby requiring that checked in passengers be off loaded . Our passengers will at all time take priority over All Ryanair employees regardless of whether they are travelling on duty or non duty purposes. In these circumstances we had no alternative but to terminate Captains X's contract of employment with immediate effect.
We expect and thankfully get high quality leadership, good judgement and sound common sense from all Ryanairs pilots and in particular our Captains. Capatin X's behaviour last Thursday was the antitheses of the concern for our customers that we expect from all our staff.
It is our passengers who pay our wages, and under no circumstances will we ever tolerate a situation whereby passengers are either expected to, or be off loaded, to accommodate a staff member insisting on travelling in the cabin of our aircraft instead on an available jump seat.
On Thursday 5th July, Captain X disrupted and delayed departure of Flight FR 226, when he insisted that he (and his crew) would not position to STN on the jump seats that were available and would only position in the cabin thereby forcing our ramp staff to try to off load some of our checked in, fare paying passengers. Captain X was instructed by operations to position on the jump seat, he refused and was therefore off loaded from the flight.
It is entirely unacceptable for any employee of this airline (be they front line staff, cabin crew, pilots, management or even board members) to refuse to travel on a jump seat or insist that they will only travel in the cabin, thereby requiring that checked in passengers be off loaded . Our passengers will at all time take priority over All Ryanair employees regardless of whether they are travelling on duty or non duty purposes. In these circumstances we had no alternative but to terminate Captains X's contract of employment with immediate effect.
We expect and thankfully get high quality leadership, good judgement and sound common sense from all Ryanairs pilots and in particular our Captains. Capatin X's behaviour last Thursday was the antitheses of the concern for our customers that we expect from all our staff.
It is our passengers who pay our wages, and under no circumstances will we ever tolerate a situation whereby passengers are either expected to, or be off loaded, to accommodate a staff member insisting on travelling in the cabin of our aircraft instead on an available jump seat.
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CXWannabee, if you are really a CX driver, please stay off these pages and give 411A and IB57 something else to do with their time. It's none of their business, and all of ours.
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Oh yes Mr Kubota, y'all made it our business when the thread threatening prospective new hires with sanctions..myself or any mates just might be an applicant who's to know...so now you have made this topic the business of any potential cx applicant...you and that silly bunch at the union....
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cxwannabe. A well written post. I agree totally with what you have to say.
I find your post to be factual and to the point.
I think you should join the rest of us though and leave this forum behind. There are to many people making posts here that have no idea of what is going on in Hong Kong.
You will not change the minds of those on this forum who choose to be misinformed.
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I find your post to be factual and to the point.
I think you should join the rest of us though and leave this forum behind. There are to many people making posts here that have no idea of what is going on in Hong Kong.
You will not change the minds of those on this forum who choose to be misinformed.
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Hmmm, think many on these forums now believe that the HKAOA only attempts to weave a veil of deception. Seems the company writes the music and the members of the band need to march to the company tune.....or play their horn elsewhere.
So, instead they try to intimidate others. A very sad group indeed.
Typical "union" BS!
So, instead they try to intimidate others. A very sad group indeed.
Typical "union" BS!
Well chaps ..it seems all has been revealed!
411A's true identity has been discovered by some 'hot' computer buffs in the USA...now the 'gutless one' can finally be made accountable for everything he does...as we all are....i'd be expecting some flak shortly old boy.....good luck!
411A's true identity has been discovered by some 'hot' computer buffs in the USA...now the 'gutless one' can finally be made accountable for everything he does...as we all are....i'd be expecting some flak shortly old boy.....good luck!
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Just looked at the SCMP....again. Still no word from the spin doctors of the HKAOA. Could it be that they have nothing factual to say?
Meanwhile, CX just keep plugging along.
Suspect that all is not well in the "union" hierarchy.
Meanwhile, CX just keep plugging along.
Suspect that all is not well in the "union" hierarchy.
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Not only do they not have any valid points, but notice that they have now rejected the latest olive branch from the company.
These "union" types have now been responsible for the dismissal of some fifty crew members, with the resultant upheaval to their families.
CX management seems quite determined to carry on flying, with or without these malcontents. The veiled threats and intimidation to prospective new recruits only point out the insufficiency of their agenda. Their PR machine is virtually nonexistant while the company continue to issue press releases with regularity pointing out the pilots intransigence.
Under these circumstances, the pilots only face continued misery. They can expect no improvement unless they change their collective attitudes. Suspect this will not be anytime soon.
These "union" types have now been responsible for the dismissal of some fifty crew members, with the resultant upheaval to their families.
CX management seems quite determined to carry on flying, with or without these malcontents. The veiled threats and intimidation to prospective new recruits only point out the insufficiency of their agenda. Their PR machine is virtually nonexistant while the company continue to issue press releases with regularity pointing out the pilots intransigence.
Under these circumstances, the pilots only face continued misery. They can expect no improvement unless they change their collective attitudes. Suspect this will not be anytime soon.
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How do you figure that IronButt? CX is losing $40 million a day and their reputation is taking a shellacking everytime the Chinese carriers use the Cathay Pacific call sign.
Steady on AOA, the aim of the exercise is just about complete.
TTYL
Steady on AOA, the aim of the exercise is just about complete.
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IMHO, a temporary "blanket" training "ban" on ALL training is the only FAIR solution - and a move that will enforce the point of view of ALL the pilots (with the company}.
This effectively takes "the heat" off the new hires, and the upgrades, and allows the TC's an extended training period - as required - because of outside duress.
IF CX management are willing to persist with a prolonged dispute, costing hundreds of millions of dollars from the shareholders' coffers, in an attempt to further the belief that a cry of, "We cannot afford it!!", it truly sounds a hollow ring by an UNACCOUNTABLE, EXCESSIVE management!
To date, this dispute has taken MORE THAN 210 MILLION DOLLARS from the shareholders pockets, in a matter of only 20 days.....
If ANY employee cost their company even 1% of that figure, he would have been summarily dismissed.
The current CX management has made an admirable stuff-up according to ANY figuring, as the pilots have done nothing more (or less) than to work to the exact letter of their contract.
That they CHOSE to DONATE their "goodwill" to their employer previously, should only be viewed in the context of "give and take"!
[ 23 July 2001: Message edited by: Kaptin M ]
IMHO, a temporary "blanket" training "ban" on ALL training is the only FAIR solution - and a move that will enforce the point of view of ALL the pilots (with the company}.
This effectively takes "the heat" off the new hires, and the upgrades, and allows the TC's an extended training period - as required - because of outside duress.
IF CX management are willing to persist with a prolonged dispute, costing hundreds of millions of dollars from the shareholders' coffers, in an attempt to further the belief that a cry of, "We cannot afford it!!", it truly sounds a hollow ring by an UNACCOUNTABLE, EXCESSIVE management!
To date, this dispute has taken MORE THAN 210 MILLION DOLLARS from the shareholders pockets, in a matter of only 20 days.....
If ANY employee cost their company even 1% of that figure, he would have been summarily dismissed.
The current CX management has made an admirable stuff-up according to ANY figuring, as the pilots have done nothing more (or less) than to work to the exact letter of their contract.
That they CHOSE to DONATE their "goodwill" to their employer previously, should only be viewed in the context of "give and take"!
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Shareholders normally don't care about intransient losses in a Company provided the long term outlook is acceptable to them. It's all paper money.Knocking down the big pay to pilots and cost cutting is viewed very favourably by shareholders in most Companies these daysso I wouldn't expect too much support from them.
you CX union heavies should come and work over here in the middle east airlines bet you a case of Scotch you would last a month and run back to Hong Kong begging for your Cathay job back. If I wasn't going home to Virgin next year I would probably come down there and grab a bit of that tax limited $$$ my self!
you CX union heavies should come and work over here in the middle east airlines bet you a case of Scotch you would last a month and run back to Hong Kong begging for your Cathay job back. If I wasn't going home to Virgin next year I would probably come down there and grab a bit of that tax limited $$$ my self!