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The CX guys are doomed.....more terminations are surely on the way. Will they find other jobs....well, ask yourself, who would want to hire them?
If they look to SIA, well the Chinese there are smarter than they think. EK? Hmmm, well maybe, but for Captains it's back to the RHS. KE? Nope, they are going to decrease foreigh employment.
Think they had better settle with their management.
If they look to SIA, well the Chinese there are smarter than they think. EK? Hmmm, well maybe, but for Captains it's back to the RHS. KE? Nope, they are going to decrease foreigh employment.
Think they had better settle with their management.
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How would you propose they run their "Airline" when they have sacked the flight crew? What do you think the crew that remains or the unfortunate crew that is hired will think of such a blood thirsty management?
Sounds like the demise of the managment to me. You don't fire the TEAM you fire the COACH!!! How desperate can the "oval office" get?
TTYL
Sounds like the demise of the managment to me. You don't fire the TEAM you fire the COACH!!! How desperate can the "oval office" get?
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Even though the link doesn't work Solo we're still not having it on this site. Please do not attempt to place it here again - long time policy here at the Towers.
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Touching, don't you think, that people like the wannabee retain such faith in the power of organized labour that they believe that someone in need of a good job would be scared off by the thought of being called a scab? Where did he get the idea that anyone valued his opinion to such a degree?
"You can call me RJ, you can call me Ray, you can call me anything, I'll take that job, now go away....."
"You can call me RJ, you can call me Ray, you can call me anything, I'll take that job, now go away....."
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CXWANNABE - Tell me WHY were these 49 pilots singled out. Were they all AOA reps? Australian? Kiwi? How were they singled out?
Why are outthere flying? Its to late for retalatory actions now. Did you accept the pay raise CX offered.....same as accepting the new order in my book.
You will get nowhere with your aggresive first mail. If I needed a job and CX was the only option I would take it, wheither you like it or not.
Why are outthere flying? Its to late for retalatory actions now. Did you accept the pay raise CX offered.....same as accepting the new order in my book.
You will get nowhere with your aggresive first mail. If I needed a job and CX was the only option I would take it, wheither you like it or not.
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" CX wannabe "
" If you are considering employment with Cathay Pacific in the near future you would be best advised to wait until every one of my colleague's are returned to full flying duties "
Who the hell do you think you are ??? huh ? cxwannabe ... that is not our problem ... obviously the management has a reason to do so or whoever that is in charged has the right to do it .. wheter you or ouyr "mates" like it or not ... always remember that you are working for someone or a company you're still an employee and you just don't understand what is an employer .
what ?? huh ?? very pissed or what ?? just use your brains and think about it "MATE" you or your "mayes" are the ones whose causing all the disputes and mess .. to me , i think it's just too childish and although thy're captains which i respect but they "mates" just don't use their head and think properly like throwing nuts at people .
don't try to be a hero or god here .. you don't own CX or what .. why ask others not to join until your mates comes back to work ... so , what .. if others join , it's too far way down the seniority list and do you think that your mates will talk or have a drink with the new guys ?? hhmmm why don't you tell others about that ??
just a thought and a comment ,
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" If you are considering employment with Cathay Pacific in the near future you would be best advised to wait until every one of my colleague's are returned to full flying duties "
Who the hell do you think you are ??? huh ? cxwannabe ... that is not our problem ... obviously the management has a reason to do so or whoever that is in charged has the right to do it .. wheter you or ouyr "mates" like it or not ... always remember that you are working for someone or a company you're still an employee and you just don't understand what is an employer .
what ?? huh ?? very pissed or what ?? just use your brains and think about it "MATE" you or your "mayes" are the ones whose causing all the disputes and mess .. to me , i think it's just too childish and although thy're captains which i respect but they "mates" just don't use their head and think properly like throwing nuts at people .
don't try to be a hero or god here .. you don't own CX or what .. why ask others not to join until your mates comes back to work ... so , what .. if others join , it's too far way down the seniority list and do you think that your mates will talk or have a drink with the new guys ?? hhmmm why don't you tell others about that ??
just a thought and a comment ,
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a330. Good grief. With an attitude like that, you sir are going to experience the most miserable career imaginable. Remember, if you join CX now, you will be working with ONE THOUSAND FOUR HUNDRED aircrew, EVERY ONE OF WHICH WILL KNOW WHO YOU ARE. You will have an EXTREMELY miserable time of things EVERY DAY you are at work. Why don't you and your kind piss-off and find a bunch of cretins like yourself to work with.... 
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is that your problem MR.ALI .... ?? huh ??? it's just non of your business ... who cares .. is it me or you whose joining >?? where ever i go fly or with whom still non of your business .. probably you're just sitting at home typing and sending out your resumes .. hehehe .. me at least i'm flying .. i dont really care much here .. it's these people just wanna mess around themselves and loves to create problem and keeps on discouraging others to join 'coz these guys are just too selfish ...
it's always like that .. b4 you get into somewhere .. you'll say or do almost anything but once you're in you think that you're a big timer or you're "GOD" .. huh ..
probably i may new to this but ,... just try to sit back and think about it ..
a330
it's always like that .. b4 you get into somewhere .. you'll say or do almost anything but once you're in you think that you're a big timer or you're "GOD" .. huh ..
probably i may new to this but ,... just try to sit back and think about it ..
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I dont get it?
The 52 pilots that were fired were not "SO" but were FO's and Captains.
The vacancies that have since become available by these unfortunate departures are for FO and Captain positions.
These very positions are going to be "REPLACED" by INTERNAL UPGRADES.
Are these very upgraders the "scabs" you are referring to "cxwannabe" ? Because I certainly dont believe they are.
The AOA has not discouraged wanabees, so just quit the whinging. Attacking wanabee SO's wont bring your mates back.
The 52 pilots that were fired were not "SO" but were FO's and Captains.
The vacancies that have since become available by these unfortunate departures are for FO and Captain positions.
These very positions are going to be "REPLACED" by INTERNAL UPGRADES.
Are these very upgraders the "scabs" you are referring to "cxwannabe" ? Because I certainly dont believe they are.
The AOA has not discouraged wanabees, so just quit the whinging. Attacking wanabee SO's wont bring your mates back.
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CXWANNABE, I've been following this story with great interest, both here and in the international press. You've got to remember this when starting a thread like this one: "When you're stood out there in public, on your one remaining leg, all those around you will be kicking at your shin!"
Those of us that actually KNOW what's going on over there support you guys 100%! I sincerely believe that you guys can win this one. It has been done before!
Those of us that actually KNOW what's going on over there support you guys 100%! I sincerely believe that you guys can win this one. It has been done before!
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I understand that, even given their spina bifida performance in previous pilot/management clashes, the C&T pilots in CX may well refuse to train uprgrades, which is why the ads are in that format
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You can not refuse to train anybody that management select for training. The only thing you can do is to resign from check and training if you don't agree with management's decision.
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If nothing else this post has done exactly what I intended it to do. INSPIRE THOUGHT as to what's happening here in the "Fragrant Harbour".
Some get overly excited as we saw with a330s post but I have read some of his posts in the past and he has lived up to what I would expect from an Airline wannabe stuck somewhere in Burma! or was it Yangon?
Anyway I don't want to sit here and individually attack some of the other replies that are obviously from people aspiring to have a job like mine or perhaps TAKE IT should I be on the next list of 50-100?? This management has shown the world their hand and for any real professional pilots out there you know what the right and honourable thing to do in these circumstances. I have not nor ever would concider taking a position on the back of a fellow aviator. These fine men were fired without cause and outside of contractual company proceedures. FULL STOP!! Families are in turmoil, careers upended and life plans foregone.
Show them some compassion before you step over their carcasses onroute to your "dream job". Give us the chance to fix things here for ourselves before you jump into something that only those of us here can fully understand or comprehend.
I know the term I used to start this thread off is a powerfull one. I also know the literal definition of it. What people need to realize is that emotions are very high here right now and those of us who remain will know and remember those who stood and fought the fight for our sacked mates, and those that didn't, and almost as importantly who joined and acted as the enemies reinforcements.
Some get overly excited as we saw with a330s post but I have read some of his posts in the past and he has lived up to what I would expect from an Airline wannabe stuck somewhere in Burma! or was it Yangon?
Anyway I don't want to sit here and individually attack some of the other replies that are obviously from people aspiring to have a job like mine or perhaps TAKE IT should I be on the next list of 50-100?? This management has shown the world their hand and for any real professional pilots out there you know what the right and honourable thing to do in these circumstances. I have not nor ever would concider taking a position on the back of a fellow aviator. These fine men were fired without cause and outside of contractual company proceedures. FULL STOP!! Families are in turmoil, careers upended and life plans foregone.
Show them some compassion before you step over their carcasses onroute to your "dream job". Give us the chance to fix things here for ourselves before you jump into something that only those of us here can fully understand or comprehend.
I know the term I used to start this thread off is a powerfull one. I also know the literal definition of it. What people need to realize is that emotions are very high here right now and those of us who remain will know and remember those who stood and fought the fight for our sacked mates, and those that didn't, and almost as importantly who joined and acted as the enemies reinforcements.
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Good question Apollo 13!!!So there cx wannabee..if you really work there....is there a freeze on current cx pilots accepting commands???? hope so...lets not be hypocrites now
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How long does it take for an upgrde at CX? How long do before you think the 49r's will regain their postitions?
With the cock-up the wet leases are making of the Cathay "brand" I can't see this lasting too much longer.
As for the mercenaries out there looking to advance themselves, consequences be-damned, give your head a shake
You would be joining a company in an active labour dispute. Those that work there now will label you a traitor and tool of management. Management will look at you as a greed striken opportunist they can take advantage of should the need arise.
Can't say that is the way an enjoyable lifetime career should start...
TTYL
With the cock-up the wet leases are making of the Cathay "brand" I can't see this lasting too much longer.
As for the mercenaries out there looking to advance themselves, consequences be-damned, give your head a shake
You would be joining a company in an active labour dispute. Those that work there now will label you a traitor and tool of management. Management will look at you as a greed striken opportunist they can take advantage of should the need arise. Can't say that is the way an enjoyable lifetime career should start...
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cx wannabe...and if you don't work for cx, what would be your reply to a question in an interview for cx such as...how do you think cx managment has handled this situation. Food for thought.
Get over your emotions. If none of your mates get back in, will you be angry with all that join cx from this day on. If so, your a sorry case. I have said before...if you don't like the conditions or who you are working for, go find another employer offering what you wan't.
Get over your emotions. If none of your mates get back in, will you be angry with all that join cx from this day on. If so, your a sorry case. I have said before...if you don't like the conditions or who you are working for, go find another employer offering what you wan't.
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i do strictly agree with eyes wide shut .. if you're not happy , don't stay hear bitching about yourself and about your "mates" (aussies) and also telling others what to do .. not happy and thinking that you're so good and herioc ... just go somewhere else !!!
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