Flying stops at major UK ATOs
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Something that will hit ATO and instructors are medicals. I know mine is due end April. OK we are grounded indefinitely but what happens when restrictions are lifted, there will be months of back logs for medicals.
Perhaps the CAA could allow a transition period where medical validity could be extended or allow say six month self certifying for PPL instructors.
Perhaps the CAA could allow a transition period where medical validity could be extended or allow say six month self certifying for PPL instructors.
What is an "unnecessary" or "fatuous" question? The NHS being the most under pressure of all organisations and very much at the sharp end see it differently. Every day and throughout the day they spare its Nurses, Doctors and Professors to appear on the media to answer questions, any questions. They do not judge the questioner. They know how important it is to do this in order to maintain a safe environment and to save life. I repeat: "the only silly question is the question which is not asked". This is not "advice" by the way but it is my strongly held and considered opinion.
As to the CAA, they have the resources, or should have, to provide the necessary manpower to answer unnecessary and fatuous questions. It would require only a very few people but, of course, only those who are not involved with the earnest work which is directly involved with the current crisis. Perhaps they could bring back into work some of its recently retired personal or those that they have mistakenly made redundant in recent times, these people can work from home.
As to the CAA, they have the resources, or should have, to provide the necessary manpower to answer unnecessary and fatuous questions. It would require only a very few people but, of course, only those who are not involved with the earnest work which is directly involved with the current crisis. Perhaps they could bring back into work some of its recently retired personal or those that they have mistakenly made redundant in recent times, these people can work from home.
What is an "unnecessary" or "fatuous" question? The NHS being the most under pressure of all organisations and very much at the sharp end see it differently. Every day and throughout the day they spare its Nurses, Doctors and Professors to appear on the media to answer questions, any questions. They do not judge the questioner. They know how important it is to do this in order to maintain a safe environment and to save life. I repeat: "the only silly question is the question which is not asked". This is not "advice" by the way but it is my strongly held and considered opinion.
As to the CAA, they have the resources, or should have, to provide the necessary manpower to answer unnecessary and fatuous questions. It would require only a very few people but, of course, only those who are not involved with the earnest work which is directly involved with the current crisis. Perhaps they could bring back into work some of its recently retired personal or those that they have mistakenly made redundant in recent times, these people can work from home.
As to the CAA, they have the resources, or should have, to provide the necessary manpower to answer unnecessary and fatuous questions. It would require only a very few people but, of course, only those who are not involved with the earnest work which is directly involved with the current crisis. Perhaps they could bring back into work some of its recently retired personal or those that they have mistakenly made redundant in recent times, these people can work from home.
BEagle, this is a discussion forum and I am always interested to read others point of view even when I disagree.I refer you to Socrates: too often the looser in an argument resorts to the tools of abuse and slander of their opponent. Too often your choice is just that and as such it is unnecessary and unhelpful to the discussion. END
BEagle, this is a discussion forum and I am always interested to read others point of view even when I disagree.I refer you to Socrates: too often the looser in an argument resorts to the tools of abuse and slander of their opponent. Too often your choice is just that and as such it is unnecessary and unhelpful to the discussion. END
BEagle makes (another) very good and valid point. Do you honestly think it’s a good use of your or anyone else’s time to be asking what you know full well to be pointless and unnecessary questions of a department that is blatantly going to be overstretched and under resourced at the moment?
You may well consider your headache’s need of a paracetamol an emergency. Tough, you still can’t have an ambulance. Doesn’t matter that you’ve paid into the system, you’re not having one, deal with it. You sign up to the rules of society by being a part of it, one of which is to not behave like a five year old at times like this. You take a step back, stay at home, and let those who are actually critical to the effort get on with their jobs in peace.
Perhaps everybody is getting a little stir crazy. Shall we all try to be nicer? I am happy to leave the CAA to work on the various easements they are thinking about without interruption. There are a very many that will need them when we all get to go flying again.
No, not ‘END’ as you put it, you can’t just make a loud point, use block capitals and walk off, not normally how discussions work.
BEagle makes (another) very good and valid point. Do you honestly think it’s a good use of your or anyone else’s time to be asking what you know full well to be pointless and unnecessary questions
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BEagle makes (another) very good and valid point. Do you honestly think it’s a good use of your or anyone else’s time to be asking what you know full well to be pointless and unnecessary questions
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I doubt whether the CAA has had a surge of unnecessary emails but there will be some. Should an individual know a question to be pointless and unnecessary then it would seem unlikely they will ask it. Before a lecture or presentation I have always written at the top of the white board or similar: "there are no silly questions other than the one not asked". When that "silly" question was asked it would usually cause many to sit up in their seats because they too had the question on their mind but didn't dare ask out of embarrassment. Constructively the silly question, more often than not, could lead us into an interesting and important debate of value to everyone. When planning to climb a rock face, fly an aircraft or at any time that individual behavior is critical the silly question could be critical to everyone's safety. For those who may have many years of experience and be active centrally to swipe away the questions from those less experienced, for me, is complacency at the extreme.
The CAA have at long last, although so far just broad brush strokes, produced a comprehensive newsletter under the Skywise banner. It makes it clear that they understand many of the issues already raised with them and that they are working on fuller detailed answers.
It states that people should not take part in recreational flying during the current coronavirus outbreak.
This is in line with government guidance to stay at home unless it is absolutely necessary to go out.
> Guidance - Coronavirus (COVID-19): recreational general aviation
In the final paragraph: 'Recreational flying'
The above does not apply to search and rescue operations, or where it absolutely necessary to fly to, or for, work. In all of these activities, we expect public organisations and businesses to be socially responsible in the decisions they make, and to apply social distancing guidelines.
This final paragraph in part is bound to generate many questions (the highlight is mine).
Coronavirus: Recreational General Aviation
Government guidance on coronavirus and General Aviation flying was published yesterday.It states that people should not take part in recreational flying during the current coronavirus outbreak.
This is in line with government guidance to stay at home unless it is absolutely necessary to go out.
> Guidance - Coronavirus (COVID-19): recreational general aviation
In the final paragraph: 'Recreational flying'
The above does not apply to search and rescue operations, or where it absolutely necessary to fly to, or for, work. In all of these activities, we expect public organisations and businesses to be socially responsible in the decisions they make, and to apply social distancing guidelines.
This final paragraph in part is bound to generate many questions (the highlight is mine).
