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Flying stops at major UK ATOs

Old 24th Mar 2020, 19:25
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Red face Flying stops at major UK ATOs

Does anyone have a view on the present difficulties flying schools are experiencing due to Covid 19 lock down...
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Old 24th Mar 2020, 21:14
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No view on the difficulties occuring but, I would suggest, a very sensible decision in the present situation!

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Old 24th Mar 2020, 22:25
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Not least because no-one training now is likely to find a job in the next five years, at least in any kind of aviation. Sad fact, but there it is. If only people had listened to Bill (said with a fierce sense of irony; all the ‘risk assessment’ done in airlines, and no-one put two and two together on the viral threat).
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Old 25th Mar 2020, 10:07
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It was inevitable and necessary. What happens next? - who knows, but I think the whole aviation industry is likely to end up smaller.

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One big school is still operating despite pleas from staff to stop.

They said they wrote an action plan to the caa to mitigate risks...I wonder if the virus got that memo.

An interesting question would be, should the old bill take a dim view of this, who would get nicked, instructor or employer...
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Old 26th Mar 2020, 23:06
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Originally Posted by UAV689
One big school is still operating despite pleas from staff to stop.

They said they wrote an action plan to the caa to mitigate risks...I wonder if the virus got that memo.

An interesting question would be, should the old bill take a dim view of this, who would get nicked, instructor or employer...
Which one? Name & shame. Emphasis on the shame.
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 05:40
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Well i'm sat here with a cold or virus that i am sure i caught once again this year by sitting with the same student. First time he said he had the flu last January and now last Sunday a sore throat. Well thanks. I wish students would just keep away from flying when they are under the weather.

My company will survive this but i have already asked our airfield operator will they waiver the take off and landing fees seeing as they have closed the airfield.
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 07:03
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Which one? Name & shame. Emphasis on the shame.
the ex easyjet factory. South coast and cranfield based. Rumour is the school sent a mitigation plan to the caa and therefore think they are immune to the virus!

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Old 27th Mar 2020, 09:35
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Almost certainly to be utter nonsense. Hardly anyone left at the CAA who have expertise on aviation matters yet alone Covid-19. The CAA cannot and will not exercise any authority on such matters. The law is clear, you must at all times remain 2 metres apart whether on the street or at work. The exemption from this separation rule is only for "key" workers: The role of doctors and nurses being an obvious exemption.
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 11:52
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Hardly anyone left at the CAA who have expertise on aviation matters yet alone Covid-19.
What prompted that bile? There are quite a few people at the CAA busily working on mitigation measures and your unpleasant little outburst is totally uncalled for and inappropriate.
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Originally Posted by rarelyathome
Which one? Name & shame. Emphasis on the shame.
L3

What ATO's are Training

Thread with the details, not sure why we’re so scared of saying L3
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 16:18
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CAA and private light aircraft were flying in UKAirspace. I was prompted by the Borii

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I wrote the CAA on Monday to ask why so many aircraft flying VFR. Reason was, I am not allowed to drive my Morgan for recreational use, so why so much recreational flying. Answer from CAA, this is not in our remit please contact Department of Transport....and these aircraft are probably flying from private land.
Tuesday such flying prohibited ....Except for the two flying around Compton Abbas and Dorset every day.
CAA great din my day with radar calibration and the great crew on the HS125, but showing my age it was more than a few years ago

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Old 27th Mar 2020, 21:24
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Key workers by me busy hand washing key workers cars
Probably washing virus off cars.
And the factory round the corner busy as usual.
Yet i can't see any reason why light aircraft can't fly solo or with a family member..

My home field has shut hangers and sent home staff so no one insured to remove aircraft.
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Old 27th Mar 2020, 23:07
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Originally Posted by BigEndBob
Key workers by me busy hand washing key workers cars
Probably washing virus off cars.
And the factory round the corner busy as usual.
Yet i can't see any reason why light aircraft can't fly solo or with a family member..

My home field has shut hangers and sent home staff so no one insured to remove aircraft.
If your up front entertainment stops and the subsequent forced landing, through misfortune, puts you in a hospital bed that my, somebody else’s or even your own family might need, would you then see why recreational flying might be a selfishly indulgent thing to do? The instruction to stay at home is crystal. JFDI
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Old 28th Mar 2020, 08:24
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RADAC wrote:
I wrote the CAA on Monday to ask why so many aircraft flying VFR
Please don't waste the CAA's time with such time wasting queries when they're working hard to draft alleviations enabling GA pilots to cope with the current restrictions.

You could always drive your Morgan to the supermarket when you do your essential food shopping?
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If anybody has a question to put to the CAA then ask it: "the only silly question is the question you do not ask". It is the responsibility of the CAA as with any authority to keep all informed. That is how best they can reduce avoidable questions/comments. The CAA exists wholly from charges they make on you in licensing and approval fees. You have a right to question and comment on how your money is spent.

They certainly do not need, nor should they require, self appointed firewalls.

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Old 29th Mar 2020, 08:29
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If anybody has a question to put to the CAA then ask it
The CAA only has a finite number of staff, who are currently working hard to develop alleviations for the current situation.

The last thing they need right now is to devote time to answering unnecessary questions. So please do NOT follow Fl1ingfrog's advice - unless you want to inconvenience everyone else.
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Old 29th Mar 2020, 09:57
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Originally Posted by BigEndBob
Key workers by me busy hand washing key workers cars
Probably washing virus off cars.
And the factory round the corner busy as usual.
Yet i can't see any reason why light aircraft can't fly solo or with a family member..

My home field has shut hangers and sent home staff so no one insured to remove aircraft.
I cannot see a reason either, my aircraft is parked on the apron at an open airfield, i dont need fuel, i can walk to it without coming in to contact with anyone, i dont see why i cannot fly it for maintenance purposes.
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Old 29th Mar 2020, 21:40
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See #14. Why do some people not get it. If we all comply, we’ll all get back to normal sooner.
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Beags,

I don't always agree with you but, in regard to the pointless queries to the CAA at the moment, you are absolutely right!! Please do not waste their time with fatuous queries!

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