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Old 30th Nov 2007, 12:31
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OK YOU LOT,WANT SOME FACTS HERE WE GO. S/AIR HAVE BEEN APPROCHED BY GERMAN WINGS FACT,TRANSAVIA FACT, CYPRUS FACT, NORWEIGIAN FACT...S/AIR ARE IN THIS GAME TO MAKE MONEY UNLIKE SWISSPORT WHO TAKE ON CONTRACTS FOR NEXT TO NOTHING SO CAN ONLY PAY THEIR WORKERS PEANUTS FACT.AND NO I'M NOT A S/AIR MANAGER I AM A SIMPLE BAGGAGE HANDLER WORKING FOR S/AIR WHO IS THE BEST HANDLER ON THE AIRPORT BY MILES EARNING MY 30,000 A YEAR,THANKYOU S/AIR.......FACT. NICE ONE SAT1, WHOEVER YOU ARE.

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Old 30th Nov 2007, 14:50
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Servisair Stn

Trap2
The facts are all the Airlines talk to all the handling agents and play them off against each other to get the best deal.
What matters at the end of day to Airlines is the price and the service you get.
If you are on 30.000 a year you don't have life,or your a White Shirt or Trainer or STL enjoy it while you can it will not be for much longer!!!
The facts are Servisair have had to go back to the Airlines and lower their price and who is going pay for this their employees if they win contracts stand by for restructering
Has anybody got bs at Servisair Union Reps offering to do the cleaning and 6 on 3 off ,management must pg themselves laughing.
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Old 30th Nov 2007, 15:21
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IN ANSWER TO TGWU...TRUTH HURTS DON'T IT MATE..COME THE SUMMER I KNOW WHO I,D RATHER BE WORKING FOR AND IT AIN,T SWISSPORT..COULD NOT AFFORD SUCH A MASSIVE DROP IN WAGES FOR A START.AND COULD SOMEBODY TELL ME ABOUT ALL THIS RESTRUCTURING AND SHIFT CHANGES THATS SUPPOSED TO HAPPEN BECAUSE SOMEONES TALKING OUT OF THIER .
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Old 30th Nov 2007, 16:27
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So you stand by many of your comments but are still unable to tell me exactly were the information came from, its not confidential or you dont treat its as confidential as you are openly discussing the topic on this forum so there can be no reason why you cant tell us all.
The AA story has gone from you saying its fact to you now stand by your comment! Thats not what i asked. why are they not happy? who is it that is not happy?
Yes EZ have had some problems but is more than on its way to being adresses maybe because our management consults fully with all parties to correct the situation. But if they wanted to move agents then wouldnt now be the best time before christmas then the new year and summer to allow for training of staff if servisair was to be awarded with the contract?
And trap 2, i love how you say things as fact and at the same time say you have no part in management. what....do the airlines come and see you with the problems and contracts, i think there is a commercial department that deals with that. And yes maybe some airlines have approached servisair but means nothing until a tender is put out or the termination of a contract.
With new contracts especially if we talk about the EZY, if menzies comes in and snaps up the contract who will they employ, let me tell you the workers from the agent that just lost their job and will that change the quality of handling and make EZY the slickest operation ever at STN i doubt it very much as the poor performance tends to come from the epmloyee themselves.
I am not arguing that this network is pointless but it just seems to be the same record being played over and over again.


Finally sat 1 i an very pleased to hear you love your job so much as i would hate to ever think you would take up a career in law as your cases would thrown out with lack of evidence . Look forward to hearing back from you!!!!
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Old 30th Nov 2007, 16:43
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Sounds like someone needs to get out a bit and get some fresh air, think those aviation fumes have gone to your head.
no one gets that excited over throwing bags, and to be earning 30K you must be living there.
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Old 30th Nov 2007, 16:51
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Triple X, well done never a truer word said .
There must be so many ears pressed against doors its surprising any work gets done.
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Old 30th Nov 2007, 17:34
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WOW!!!!! I'VE OBVIOUSLY I'VE HIT A NERVE CHAPS, LETS JUST WAIT UNTIL THE SUMMER WHEN WE CAN SAY "WE TOLD YOU SO!".ANYWAY TIME TO STOP GOING ROUND IN CIRCLES.
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Old 30th Nov 2007, 19:04
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Devil

Well,well guys and gals,i think it's a bit late to be argueing about the union now.The fact is s/a are making redundancies starting from the top and working through the ranks,which means,any one who is 5/3-4/2-4/4,qaulified A1,A2,A3,A4 and handles luggage is in the firing line

S/a may be looking at other contracts but to get them and keep them s/a will have to lower their prices(and that's a FACT!!!!).As someone mentioned,it's a dog eat dog world out there and there's no room for hanging about.

Sat 1,please can you supply rock hard evidence about EZY,TK,AA etc that they are looking to join s/a's books. I don't think they will join s/a only because of the redundancy situation and musn't forget to say that any one who is made redundant they cannot employ any more workforce for another 6 months+(and that's a FACT) xxxxxxx
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Old 30th Nov 2007, 19:12
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Listen to rumours-you can't get away from the dam things-you of all people should now that?
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Old 30th Nov 2007, 19:24
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Every Body Whoooo!!!!!!!

Sorry Peeps, But I Thought I Was The Grizzler...your All Doing Me Out Of A Job.
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Old 30th Nov 2007, 19:31
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Trap2 , glad to hear you like your job , but as all the airport know , the S/Air boys who got TUPED to Swissport FR nearly 6 years ago are all pulling 40k plus , so does that make S/Air the best handler for giving them the contract or Swissport the best handler for paying them ?
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Old 30th Nov 2007, 19:51
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No prizes for guessing where you might be receiving your mince pie though hey wozzle
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Old 1st Dec 2007, 02:03
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Supurb Diamond Hanger.
As I said earlier sounds as though Servisair is having another clean out getting rid of the dead wood and make a fresh start.
With reference to the swissport people on servisair contracts there cant be many left as the last I heard they where getting rid of them one way or another, sacked, forced to sign swissport contract or just generally left the airport/swissport and that was a couple of years back.
Airlines are no different to you and I, if we want to buy a car we look around we dont just take the first thing that comes along, and as for the the minions (we're all just tadpoles in a big FG pond) dishing out facts about airlines signing contracts is laughable unless its multi tasking in down time as commericial directors (shink not)!!
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Old 1st Dec 2007, 21:02
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Now,now gotta go, no need to get personal on here mate,it's a forum,that's all. I beg to differ my friend that S/A ARE making redundancies within the next couple of weeks or longer but they will happen. They will start from the top and work downwards and yes i do agree that the managment(if you can call them that) should be looked at first.Why do we need that many people in the back office who i see not actually doing a great deal. There have been many people on here writing about management,are we talking about the 1's in the ivory tower OR the 1's in the back office? Let us clarify whom we should be talking about.

Haven't heard from Sat 1 for a long time,is this person ok or playing the field? xxxxxxxxx
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Old 1st Dec 2007, 23:11
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Thumbs down spot on young man

the people who will loose their jobs r us the grafters.lets get rid of the sick notes or the lazy btds.but no make enough tea or kiss enough as your made .
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Old 2nd Dec 2007, 07:31
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Heads up please.

This thread has taken a dive and no longer represents anything!

You had all better get your act together and stop using it as a chat venue or a place where some of you vent your spleens. It needs to be intelligent - no text speak - no shouting (capital letters) - no swearing disguised or otherwise and definitely no abuse.

At the first sign of further deterioration it gets closed.

Btw. A couple of you have been banned from this thread altogether.

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Old 2nd Dec 2007, 15:45
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its all gotta go has got to go, that is not acceptable under any circumstances
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Old 2nd Dec 2007, 20:51
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Well done PPRuNe "white shirts", its about time someone stopped this rubbish. You should ALL be ashamed of ourselves. Whatever you think about your managment, we should all be supporting each other, whatever the colour shirt you wear. Why would you all want to gloat that your workmates (i use the term very loosely) and others in your proffesion could be out of work for xmas. And as for the personnal attacks, they were guttless. Lets face it, a vast majority of us share the same restroom, so if you dont have the guts to say it to the individuals faces, dont say it at all. Lets get the tongues working with some good ol fashioned rumours, not rubbish that makes peoples life hell because every working minute of the day, someone is talking about it.
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Old 2nd Dec 2007, 22:58
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Devil Towteambase

I would hate to rain on your parade but you have used shouting words(capitals) to all of us,just thought i would clarify that but yes PPRuNe is correct,this is a forum for the use by all people who work in the Aviation industry and to post rumours,news anything that may or maybe not true. I personally would apologise to any members on here if i have offended them in any way and i believe those who have been barred from this site should do the same as with all of us,you know who you are!
Right back to the good stuff,as i said before,there will be redundancies within servisair and if that happens they might even change the shift patterns,who knows? We shall see! xxxx

P.S-I hope Sat 1 is well and kicking,love that person x
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Old 2nd Dec 2007, 23:22
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Back to the task at hand.
With the talk of redundancies at STN, and servisair gaining Exel at LGW it would nice to see no redundancies and busing staff down to LGW, not really ideal for staff but at the end of the day its still an income surely it makes sence.

PPrune good call.
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