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Old 27th Nov 2007, 19:25
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I May Have Let My English Vocabulary Dwindle Some What Lately As I Am Learning Polish.thats Where The Future Is:d
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Old 27th Nov 2007, 20:48
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I hope the employees of Servisair don't fall into the trap of a low pay increase with all this gloom and doom about,what Servisair management will not tell you is what they have in the pipe line for next year.
Having a low pay increase or agree to have no increase will not save jobs. I think 5% or 6% is about right if you consider the cost of living increases in the last year ie mortgage rates ,petrol,and weekly shopping bill, Gas ,Elec to rise early in the New Year by 10% due to cost of oil we also know that your Council tax will rise by over the rate of inflation.
Go for fair increase because the company could not care less about you or your family when it comes down to it, being loyal and working hard counts for nothing if they have get rid of people.
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At the risk of not knowing what I'm talking about,what is so wrong with 5%? If you take rpi plus a VERY modest bit on top you have got to be getting to that figure?YES/NO.Please feel free to enlighten this poor dim baggage handler!!!!
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Old 27th Nov 2007, 21:00
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Why Have A Pay Rise Just Ask For Double Time On Sundays And A New Hoover .:d
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Old 27th Nov 2007, 21:42
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Got a minute..

Any concrete news on new airlines we have???? or trying to get?????

As for pay increase, you have the right idea sat 1, 5% is a good figure to go for, but see it being very hard to achieve.
who knows our rep might be wearing his lucky socks....

sat 1 - i thought you would have said something along the lines as...
5% + a steak and kiddney pie.....

we all have to stick together......
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Old 28th Nov 2007, 08:50
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Come on guys its seems to have gone a bit quiet all of asudden. Lets have some more of that lovely gossip bout servisair ANYONE!
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Old 28th Nov 2007, 10:28
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Servisair Stn

Its all gotta go.
Send a e-mail to Manchester HQ thats sure way to find yourself on to top of the redundancy list.

Wozzel
Its not the Union that is weak ,a Union is only as strong as its members and we know they have not got any bs ask them why the did nothing when Servisair sacked their Shop Steward for one mistake bet they wish he was still there now.

Flexible rosters 6 on 3 off is on the way and no pay increase and a tin of sweets on Christmas Day.

Lets all stick together except Cargo we alright jack.
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Old 28th Nov 2007, 10:58
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As a union we have no-one to blame except US.Very rarely do we act as a union ie unite together,one voice.Cargo have their agenda,the undercroft are frightened to wipe their own backsides incase they are threatened with rosta changes,and ramp(pax a/c) argue between 4/2 and 5/3,always have,always will.Management just sit back and laugh at us and who can blame them?

Once the pay talks are done and dusted watch the announcements of new contracts being won(with some lost ones coming back as well)
Look out swissport(EZY) you are the ones who should be worried.Lets face it,its common knowledge that AA have had enough of you.TK and cyprus are feeling the same and what about the rumours of Norwegian?
Next it will be germanwings.What a slippery slope you're on!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 28th Nov 2007, 11:01
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Did I forget to mention....................


I LOVE MY JOB!!!!!!!
the future is blue.........................
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Old 28th Nov 2007, 11:01
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Bring BACK Andy Bright
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Old 28th Nov 2007, 13:16
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Why??????????????????
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Old 28th Nov 2007, 14:05
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Servisair Stansted

Sat 1
A lot of what you say i agree with at least when a certain Shop Steward was there you new he would do his best to fight for the members and try and keep the members together and management did not do as like as they do now,has anyone at Servisair got any bs.
What have we got now a Shop Steward who can't make his mind up which side he's on and you all voted him in.( like turkeys voting for Christmas)
Have the members at Servisair got a backbone i think we are about to find out!!!
Germanwings would like to go Aviance or to Servisair who would do it for nothing as its the only way Servisair are going to win a contract.
The Airlines will be aware there could Union problems with the pay talks on going so are unlikely to sign up to new contract until settled.
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Old 28th Nov 2007, 14:26
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Servisair Stn

stn ladooo
Too late for that you had your chance.

D-ABAA
Because Management respected him,i am afraid we will pay the price of not supporting him when he needed it.
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Old 28th Nov 2007, 16:15
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his good with steps though.
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Old 28th Nov 2007, 18:55
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Thumbs down Tgwu Stn

Thats rite mate the union is only as strong as the workers and at this point we have no one with balls.even the ramps hard man did fk all to help his mate when he fed up.AB was all for the workers till u wanted overtime then he showed his true colours;
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Old 29th Nov 2007, 08:42
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Past tence guys lets move on.Think ABs happy where he is, hopefully if he f s up there they wont dump him as quickly as servisair did LC
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Old 29th Nov 2007, 17:37
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AB

lets hope his career at aviance is a STEP in the rite direction
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Old 29th Nov 2007, 23:04
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Get the attitude that everybody thinks their perfect n what they do eachday n everyway but n all honesty their fooling themselves were all just a digit n servisairs big timespace.Soon as its time to go were gone believe me LC
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Old 29th Nov 2007, 23:22
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Lets carry on as always its what servisair do nothins gona change
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Old 30th Nov 2007, 08:48
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sat 1

Reading few the threads on this subject you really do talk some c! Im sure you said back in the summer that EZY were all but over with swissport and what came of that. I think you went pretty quiete after what turned out to be a certainty by your books never happened. And how you can say its common knowledge that AA are not happy with swissport, how? why? who exactly? After all the AA has been on time or early pretty much everyday except for a few occasions and none of which are swissport related. Again about TK, argue your case instead of making all these sweeping statements.

Ok and another point if swissport does lose all these contracts which you say is going to happen, does servisair have enough staff to cope with that kind off schedule and adhere to the standards set by the airlines, i think not, if im wrong tell me how. For once stop making up these stories and back them up with evidence!!

And before you post back what i dont want to hear is ' well i know someone thats in a position to know' or 'i have heard' as this is not evidence. If you have servisair management telling you that EZY are in talks and hang on as things will get better then i might believe you.

I know this is a rumour network however you seem to have the same story everytime and nothing ever comes of it which is why it would be best if you only posting rumours that MIGHT ACTUALLY HAPPEN!!

May it aslo be a little case of jealousy that your not working for the better handling agent
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Old 30th Nov 2007, 10:44
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hi, xxx ,long time no hear,ok lets see if I can respond to your many points:
EZY have not been happy with swissport for some considerable time but have been unable to rectify the problem YET. The other handling agents have not shown the desired interest in the product,however,Menzies are NEVER far away,they are hungry for work anywhere--fact.
With regard to AA I stand by what I said and time WILL tell.
The same is true re TK,and that DID come from on high.
As for servisair having enough staff to cope with all the potential work,that has to be the dumbest comment ever!! What company would have that amount of slack manpower!!!! Please,come back down to earth.
I dont have the ear of servisair management and if I did I certainly would'nt take everything said as gospel.
As for this site being a rumour network------WELL DONE!!!! you got summit rite(wozzel) As for jealousy,I am on record as saying.......................I LUV MY JOB and the future
IS BLUE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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