help from you guys
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help from you guys
i am a doctor , with a great interest in aviation . after med school, i wanted to become a mechanic ...but was refused strongly. but i am still interested in the stuff, though i have no hope of touching a tarmac.
. i need some advice. i am keen to understand the airbus systems. ..a bit more than what the flight crew manual says. at the same time i don't need details as to where to bolt on a specific unit etc . i would like to read something in between ....detailed overview of systems , but not down to componenet level. can you recommend any books or cd roms that i can get. any airliner class aircraft would do , but i am particularly interested in the airbus 320/330/340. basically , if you are an engineer, but are completely new to the bus, what book would you read at the start , to get a dep overview of the systems? any help will be greatly appreciated. please email me with any ideas [email protected]
. i need some advice. i am keen to understand the airbus systems. ..a bit more than what the flight crew manual says. at the same time i don't need details as to where to bolt on a specific unit etc . i would like to read something in between ....detailed overview of systems , but not down to componenet level. can you recommend any books or cd roms that i can get. any airliner class aircraft would do , but i am particularly interested in the airbus 320/330/340. basically , if you are an engineer, but are completely new to the bus, what book would you read at the start , to get a dep overview of the systems? any help will be greatly appreciated. please email me with any ideas [email protected]
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Hello Doctor. The problem with medics is they are type qualified on only one type that hasn't changed much in a couple of million years or so. When we aircraft maintainers move onto a new type we don't touch them until we've done the course. The best books for you to read are the ones that are issued during the course and you can't buy them from Amazon, I'm afraid. After finishing the type training you can move on to the Maintenance Manuals and other stuff that comes with the aeroplane.
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dear ASFKAP,
that would be a dream come true if you can help me. the only cd that i can find on the net are ones that help pilots with thier exams ...which is basically press this and that.
Not only has the type that i work on not changed for many millenia ....their isn't even a proper maintenance manual either !nor is it easy to contact the original manufacturer ...God!
your cd would really be a dream come true.
please email me at [email protected]
i am training in london at the moment.
infact, after med school, i plucked up courage and went to my airline .
i was very fond of the A320.
but the interview was a joke ....they could not believe that a medic wanted to waste his life being a mechanic. i was taken to the hangar and one of the big guys , who was asked to show me around showed me a mechanic holding a bucket of grease and said ..."you don't want to do that !"
i know they meant well for me , but atleast i tried. now i have moved on in medicine and am a specialist in anesthesia ..which has a little bit of physics in it.
my dream is to write a web page for my anesthesia colleagues about the airbus, since we have a physics background.
anesthesia has many similarites with aviation ..... check lists, emegency drills, equipment dealing with gas flows and so on ....
thank you.
prasanna
that would be a dream come true if you can help me. the only cd that i can find on the net are ones that help pilots with thier exams ...which is basically press this and that.
Not only has the type that i work on not changed for many millenia ....their isn't even a proper maintenance manual either !nor is it easy to contact the original manufacturer ...God!
your cd would really be a dream come true.
please email me at [email protected]
i am training in london at the moment.
infact, after med school, i plucked up courage and went to my airline .
i was very fond of the A320.
but the interview was a joke ....they could not believe that a medic wanted to waste his life being a mechanic. i was taken to the hangar and one of the big guys , who was asked to show me around showed me a mechanic holding a bucket of grease and said ..."you don't want to do that !"
i know they meant well for me , but atleast i tried. now i have moved on in medicine and am a specialist in anesthesia ..which has a little bit of physics in it.
my dream is to write a web page for my anesthesia colleagues about the airbus, since we have a physics background.
anesthesia has many similarites with aviation ..... check lists, emegency drills, equipment dealing with gas flows and so on ....
thank you.
prasanna
Last edited by gas_man; 2nd April 2002 at 06:49.
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Guys - with all due respect to the poster and taking nothing away from your well intentioned responses, to give away technical material such as this, in today's climate, is foolish in the extreme and more than a little misguided.
All the arguments in the world that if it isn't obtained from you, it will be obtained somewhere if a person wants it badly enough ( for good or evil ), just don't wash I'm afraid.
Over-reaction perhaps but my humble opinion.
All the arguments in the world that if it isn't obtained from you, it will be obtained somewhere if a person wants it badly enough ( for good or evil ), just don't wash I'm afraid.
Over-reaction perhaps but my humble opinion.
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i do appreciate your concern , seldomfixit, but the details i am asking are not at the maintenance manual level. knowing the systems overview is really of no danger.
i can also prove my genuine interest in aviation since many years ago. when i was a medical student , i wrote a letter, titled "Go video crazy!" to Flight International (i think it was in 1992) suggesting that aircraft such as the airbus should provide a dedicated video channel in the entertainment system where the flight computer would automatically update data such as temperature, estimated time of arrival etc. i also suggested that the airbus should have a forward camera and that the picture should be made available to another channel , so that the pax can see landings etc. Flight International did publish the letter. i don't have a copy with me now , but have the references.
i am also happy to send certified copies of my medical qualifications including registration with the British medical council.
it is a great pity that terrorism curtails the normal way of life. but i suppose we have to live with it. once i was sitting with a mechanic , and becoz of my questions , he spoke to the flight deck crew ,if i could visit the deck ...but was refused ....this was pre sept 11th ....and now i know why.
(by the way , do any of you have old flight international copies ?)
i can also prove my genuine interest in aviation since many years ago. when i was a medical student , i wrote a letter, titled "Go video crazy!" to Flight International (i think it was in 1992) suggesting that aircraft such as the airbus should provide a dedicated video channel in the entertainment system where the flight computer would automatically update data such as temperature, estimated time of arrival etc. i also suggested that the airbus should have a forward camera and that the picture should be made available to another channel , so that the pax can see landings etc. Flight International did publish the letter. i don't have a copy with me now , but have the references.
i am also happy to send certified copies of my medical qualifications including registration with the British medical council.
it is a great pity that terrorism curtails the normal way of life. but i suppose we have to live with it. once i was sitting with a mechanic , and becoz of my questions , he spoke to the flight deck crew ,if i could visit the deck ...but was refused ....this was pre sept 11th ....and now i know why.
(by the way , do any of you have old flight international copies ?)
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Gasman, as a fellow professional you will understand that certain information is not best handled outside of the arenas for which it was originally meant. Also most such information is commercially secret for obvious reasons. You will also understand that in the latest political climate it would be extremely wreckless and foolhardy for qualified engineers to furnish you with any aeronautical information, especially via this method of communication. After all we have no way of verifying your credentials and therefore it is justifiably prudent to deny any such a request in the interests of security. You may find greater success if you contact the CAA and explain your interests. If indeed you are genuine, then this may be the best method provided you can verify your status.
Balti King
Ps. Anaesthesia is the correct spelling, Doc.
Balti King
Ps. Anaesthesia is the correct spelling, Doc.
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... I think I have passed an opionion on this in a previous thread concerning this subject. I believe the guy's interest is commendable, and he is certainly persistant if nothing else, but it would ( IMHO ) be rash and foolhardy to let public any controlled aircraft maintenance documents, even training notes. There are correct and proper forums for channeling this kind of interest and I would agree that the CAA is a reasonable place to start. Letting aircraft technical publications lose is a recipe for disaster . . .
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hello everyone.
i agree with the opinion.
by the way , i should know the spelling of my profession. anaesthesia is british and anesthesia is american. i am the lazy type so use the US spelling!
perhpas the best approach for me is to read general aeronautical texts regarding aircraft systems ..without focussing on one specific model. then there are no security issues and i will have the knowledge i want.
ofcourse , cost is an issue. can someone recommend a good book , which will descripe aircraft systems in some detail without going into deep physics and mathematics.
i really think there is a lot of scope for book for the public with special focus on aircraft engineering. i may be wrong but i think the guys who fly planes have very little to do. the real excitement is the aircraft design . there are enough public how to fly books , so little on aircraft mechanics.
if i had more knowledge , i would have written such a book. maybe some of you should take up the challenge. it would also elevate the status of the airline mechanic, who , public percept as grease monkeys.
thank you very much for your advise.
do let me know if you any ideas.
prasanna
i agree with the opinion.
by the way , i should know the spelling of my profession. anaesthesia is british and anesthesia is american. i am the lazy type so use the US spelling!
perhpas the best approach for me is to read general aeronautical texts regarding aircraft systems ..without focussing on one specific model. then there are no security issues and i will have the knowledge i want.
ofcourse , cost is an issue. can someone recommend a good book , which will descripe aircraft systems in some detail without going into deep physics and mathematics.
i really think there is a lot of scope for book for the public with special focus on aircraft engineering. i may be wrong but i think the guys who fly planes have very little to do. the real excitement is the aircraft design . there are enough public how to fly books , so little on aircraft mechanics.
if i had more knowledge , i would have written such a book. maybe some of you should take up the challenge. it would also elevate the status of the airline mechanic, who , public percept as grease monkeys.
thank you very much for your advise.
do let me know if you any ideas.
prasanna
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Think we are over reacting slightly guys. You do not want to give joe public access to maintenance manuals and the like, for fear he may have evil intentions?
But he can buy Flight international cut-away diagrams and many other such informative publications that would easily give some one with ill-intent enough knowledge to cause havoc...in fact he does not even have to buy them, there are plenty available on the internet.
If such people are set on destruction they will find a way to get what they need.
Sorry gas-man, I am a Boeing operator and do not have any AI info available, but I am sure you will find some.
But he can buy Flight international cut-away diagrams and many other such informative publications that would easily give some one with ill-intent enough knowledge to cause havoc...in fact he does not even have to buy them, there are plenty available on the internet.
If such people are set on destruction they will find a way to get what they need.
Sorry gas-man, I am a Boeing operator and do not have any AI info available, but I am sure you will find some.
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i'va managed to find a partial solution to my problem ...
i've bought this fantastic book called "transport category-aircraft systems" by thomas wild. (pblished by jeppesen)
it is excellent for me and provides explanations of systems from a wide variety of transports.
there are parts i do not understand ...i will ask you guys those bits!
see you later.
prasanna
i've bought this fantastic book called "transport category-aircraft systems" by thomas wild. (pblished by jeppesen)
it is excellent for me and provides explanations of systems from a wide variety of transports.
there are parts i do not understand ...i will ask you guys those bits!
see you later.
prasanna
