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My Garmin 196 works with MFS. Differences I can see is that I have
Sentences=AV400
and
Speed=9600
(I'm assuming you have GPSOut.dll in the Modules directory!)
Great for VOR and NDB practice!
My Garmin 196 works with MFS. Differences I can see is that I have
Sentences=AV400
and
Speed=9600
(I'm assuming you have GPSOut.dll in the Modules directory!)
Great for VOR and NDB practice!
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Thanks Yawning Dog - been there though 
Murph - switched to 9600 and still no joy. A couple of questions if you don't mind.
1. Not sure about the 196, but with the Pilot III, practically the first question is what initiation method: use map, autolocate, or none. I choose none. Is that what you do?
2. Does it matter which order you switch these things on?
Something tells me I'm missing something pretty obvious...
Murph - switched to 9600 and still no joy. A couple of questions if you don't mind.
1. Not sure about the 196, but with the Pilot III, practically the first question is what initiation method: use map, autolocate, or none. I choose none. Is that what you do?
2. Does it matter which order you switch these things on?
Something tells me I'm missing something pretty obvious...
Have you tried changing the Interface Settings from Aviation In to either Garmin or NMEA?
I know some programs such as Autoroute require the NMEA protocol to be able to communicate with a GPS.
Just a thought!
I know some programs such as Autoroute require the NMEA protocol to be able to communicate with a GPS.
Just a thought!
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I have in the past managed to connect my Garmin Pilot III to FS2004 so it is possible, but I cannot remember how I did it. I know that somewhere on the internet there are some very useful instructions that give you a step by step guide, but I can't find them again.
Sorry.
I would imagine, if you have selected the correct conection type, then the gps would "autolocate".
Sorry.
I would imagine, if you have selected the correct conection type, then the gps would "autolocate".
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The 196 doesnt have the setting you mention.
I had the GPS switched on and running in "Simulation" mode, then I started up MFS. Not sure if it makes any difference.
Sorry if I'm telling you things you already know but I noticed this in the readme that comes with GPSOut...
"It is also known to work with real Garmin GPS units which support input in the
"Series 400 Aviation" format (this may also be known as ARNAV, or KING format,
but I cannot be sure of that). For this you should set just AV400 as the only
sentence, and the speed is normally 9600 in this format, but it may be adjustable.
I've received confirmation that the "Aviation In" mode works with the AV400
protocol, with the Garmin GPS III Pilot and the GPS 196. The GPS has to be
in simulator mode, and then shows the correct track and vertical data as well
as position and speed."
I suppose the main things to note are that you must have your GPS unit in "Simulation" mode and "Aviation In" and be using AV400 sentences (AV400 set in both the GPSOut.ini file and selected in your GPS unit.)
Let me know if you need anymore info - it should work!
I'll check my settings tonight when I get home and post any further info I can find.
The 196 doesnt have the setting you mention.
I had the GPS switched on and running in "Simulation" mode, then I started up MFS. Not sure if it makes any difference.
Sorry if I'm telling you things you already know but I noticed this in the readme that comes with GPSOut...
"It is also known to work with real Garmin GPS units which support input in the
"Series 400 Aviation" format (this may also be known as ARNAV, or KING format,
but I cannot be sure of that). For this you should set just AV400 as the only
sentence, and the speed is normally 9600 in this format, but it may be adjustable.
I've received confirmation that the "Aviation In" mode works with the AV400
protocol, with the Garmin GPS III Pilot and the GPS 196. The GPS has to be
in simulator mode, and then shows the correct track and vertical data as well
as position and speed."
I suppose the main things to note are that you must have your GPS unit in "Simulation" mode and "Aviation In" and be using AV400 sentences (AV400 set in both the GPSOut.ini file and selected in your GPS unit.)
Let me know if you need anymore info - it should work!
I'll check my settings tonight when I get home and post any further info I can find.
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Sorted!
Thanks Murphy. You inadvertently pointed me in the right direction. Looking at your post of the .ini file, I realised that this was different to what I was using. A bit of investigation later, I discovered that somehow I had been using version 2.5.0 of PSOUT and not the latest version 2.5.5. It would seem that the critical changes wer made in the last release.
All works fine now. What a great utility for some cheap training!
Thanks.
KC
Thanks Murphy. You inadvertently pointed me in the right direction. Looking at your post of the .ini file, I realised that this was different to what I was using. A bit of investigation later, I discovered that somehow I had been using version 2.5.0 of PSOUT and not the latest version 2.5.5. It would seem that the critical changes wer made in the last release.
All works fine now. What a great utility for some cheap training!
Thanks.
KC
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Using Garmin 196 with MS Flight Sim?
I heard on the net somewhere that it is possible to connect the Garmin GPSMap 196 (or was it 111) with the PC and use it in conjunction with microsoft flight simulator.
Thats about all I have heard and theres not much info on it. Anybody else know more.
It would deffinately be cool to fly the sim and see yourself moving on the GPS screen as I have the 196 unit.
thanks.
Thats about all I have heard and theres not much info on it. Anybody else know more.
It would deffinately be cool to fly the sim and see yourself moving on the GPS screen as I have the 196 unit.
thanks.
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ISTR someone asking a similar question before - not sure if it was here of Private Flying. Did you try 'search'?
edit: I just did. I'm guessing you didn't
edit: I just did. I'm guessing you didn't
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MS2004 Flight Controls
I suspect this has been done to death, but I can't find what I am looking for in a general search here.
Q?, What is one of the better yokes (M/E power), peddles, radio stack combos on the market? Also looking in the lower budget range. Any links would be great, cheers,
CF
Q?, What is one of the better yokes (M/E power), peddles, radio stack combos on the market? Also looking in the lower budget range. Any links would be great, cheers,
CF
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timmcat,
This I have just the thing for you:
I have been selling these things at the Flight School and they go like hot cakes.
If you want to do Multi-Engine, you could add in:
Take Care,
Richard
This I have just the thing for you:
I have been selling these things at the Flight School and they go like hot cakes.
If you want to do Multi-Engine, you could add in:
Take Care,
Richard
It's an eye opener when questions such as what teropa asks are posed by individuals who perhaps have never physically entered a Boeing flightdeck (OK teropa perhaps not you - but you get my gist I hope).
A Captain I fly occasionally with is a former 737 IP with a major West Canadian Outfit... he mentioned a program by the name of PS1... and stated quite confidently that he believed somebody au fait with the Software could probably get an EFIS Boeing on the ground in one piece from altitude...
Flight Sims have come a hell of a long way. Lets face it. Flying a Boeing/Airbus etc is no longer a complete mystery to anybody who can fork out a couple of hundred bucks to buy some software and original manuals from ebay. No flames here please - no I'm not saying that they could competently replace a crew member - just that the odds are in their favour in bringing the a/c down in one piece.
Whether this is a good or bad thing I'd be hesistant to judge.
Cheers.
A Captain I fly occasionally with is a former 737 IP with a major West Canadian Outfit... he mentioned a program by the name of PS1... and stated quite confidently that he believed somebody au fait with the Software could probably get an EFIS Boeing on the ground in one piece from altitude...
Flight Sims have come a hell of a long way. Lets face it. Flying a Boeing/Airbus etc is no longer a complete mystery to anybody who can fork out a couple of hundred bucks to buy some software and original manuals from ebay. No flames here please - no I'm not saying that they could competently replace a crew member - just that the odds are in their favour in bringing the a/c down in one piece.
Whether this is a good or bad thing I'd be hesistant to judge.
Cheers.
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Flash8,
You hit the nail on the head. However, I have long since learned not to "claim to know" anything about, say, the 757, whose cockpit I'm currently building. The pilots tend to get angry and say "go back to your MSFS" if anyone ever makes that mistake
.
We use a software called PIC767, or to be more accurate, its upcoming new version called Level-D Simulations 767-300 for the project. I can't reveal any details of the project at this point, but people (pilots especially) can decide for themselves once it's out...
We have several 757/767 pilots on the beta-team, plus other 767-related professionals. When it's good for them, it should be good for a simmer.
The bottom line. Simulators are really good nowadays.
Tero
You hit the nail on the head. However, I have long since learned not to "claim to know" anything about, say, the 757, whose cockpit I'm currently building. The pilots tend to get angry and say "go back to your MSFS" if anyone ever makes that mistake
.We use a software called PIC767, or to be more accurate, its upcoming new version called Level-D Simulations 767-300 for the project. I can't reveal any details of the project at this point, but people (pilots especially) can decide for themselves once it's out...
We have several 757/767 pilots on the beta-team, plus other 767-related professionals. When it's good for them, it should be good for a simmer
.The bottom line. Simulators are really good nowadays.
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Teropa,
You'll have to appeal to Danny or Rob for that, but I rather suspect that you'll be disappointed. PPRuNe can't be all things to all people, and while I can understand the attraction of PPRuNe for those interested in flight simulators, there are plenty of other places online for that sort of thing.
As for your original post, I've been busy for a couple of days and don't know if it was posted here or moved here, but if I'd have caught it earlier I'd have moved it. We're really here to help out when people have trouble, and while we wander sometimes, flight sims aren't really within the scope of this forum - especially when it's a long list of questions
I'd be very happy about that, and that way PPrune could also become one of the more usual "hangouts" for simmers ... By adhering to forum rules and only posting flight simming related stuff at the new forum, I'm sure everyone would be happy
As for your original post, I've been busy for a couple of days and don't know if it was posted here or moved here, but if I'd have caught it earlier I'd have moved it. We're really here to help out when people have trouble, and while we wander sometimes, flight sims aren't really within the scope of this forum - especially when it's a long list of questions
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Evo,
My original post in this thread was made almost 1.5 years ago. Since then I've had plenty of opportunities to learn a great deal more.
I understand that PPrune doesn't want to evolve into a flight simming site, for obvious reasons. The suggestion I made wasn't trying to imply that I'd like that to happen. Like you said, there's plenty of those sites available already. I co-run one such site myself (www.simradar.com).
Tero
My original post in this thread was made almost 1.5 years ago. Since then I've had plenty of opportunities to learn a great deal more
.I understand that PPrune doesn't want to evolve into a flight simming site, for obvious reasons. The suggestion I made wasn't trying to imply that I'd like that to happen. Like you said, there's plenty of those sites available already. I co-run one such site myself (www.simradar.com).
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Hi NACi, your box is full, can you please PM me with a email address where we can talk prices and answer some questions regading whats in the pics.
Does anyone have any input on the 'thrust master' ones I think they are called?
cheers.
Does anyone have any input on the 'thrust master' ones I think they are called?
cheers.
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timmcat,
I am loosing it fast, time to put me out to pasture!
connection fee,
I already cleaned out my Inbox again and sent you a PM. I clean out my Inbox every other day and it fills right up again.
I will help you any way I can if you need some controls as stocking stuffers for Christmas.
Take Care,
Richard
I am loosing it fast, time to put me out to pasture!
connection fee,
I already cleaned out my Inbox again and sent you a PM. I clean out my Inbox every other day and it fills right up again.
I will help you any way I can if you need some controls as stocking stuffers for Christmas.
Take Care,
Richard
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Flight Sim, Combat Flight Sim and Making your own a/c
High all
First could you settle an argument between me and my friend. When is the next Flight sim coming out? he thinks its coming out this year but willb e called FS05, but i say there will be a Combat Flight Sim 4 this year, and an FS06 next year. can anyone help? can't find anything on the microsoft website and the FS boards are full of rumour and conjecture.
OK second (and the question i really want to ask). If i buy FS04 (which im thinking of doing) is there either a built in or stand alone facility to create your own design aircraft? part of my degree next year wll involve designing an aircraft, and if i can do this on FS04 and show it flies then obviously my grades would be that much better for it. Plus i get to play around on flight sim
Ok thats it, thanks for your time and happy landings.
Matty
First could you settle an argument between me and my friend. When is the next Flight sim coming out? he thinks its coming out this year but willb e called FS05, but i say there will be a Combat Flight Sim 4 this year, and an FS06 next year. can anyone help? can't find anything on the microsoft website and the FS boards are full of rumour and conjecture.
OK second (and the question i really want to ask). If i buy FS04 (which im thinking of doing) is there either a built in or stand alone facility to create your own design aircraft? part of my degree next year wll involve designing an aircraft, and if i can do this on FS04 and show it flies then obviously my grades would be that much better for it. Plus i get to play around on flight sim
Ok thats it, thanks for your time and happy landings.
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Aircraft can be modelled for FS2004 using the "Gmax" software, freely downloadable from Discreet and the plugin should beavailable on the FS CD-roms.
For a more "realistic" or technical flight model, try X-Plane from Laminar Research. The flight model in X-Plane is computed based on the actual 3D model of the aircraft, rather than generic parameters as Flight Sim uses, and has been certified as a training aid in certain configurations (I understand such "certification" is not much use to you, but it may be a factor in showing that the X-Plane flight model is more accurately computed).
As for the next release date, FS seems to be renamed every two years; FS98, 2000, 2002, 2004 etc; and released a year earlier, so unless MS bucks the trend, FS 2006 should be out in 2005
God I'm sad, real flying is more fun!
For a more "realistic" or technical flight model, try X-Plane from Laminar Research. The flight model in X-Plane is computed based on the actual 3D model of the aircraft, rather than generic parameters as Flight Sim uses, and has been certified as a training aid in certain configurations (I understand such "certification" is not much use to you, but it may be a factor in showing that the X-Plane flight model is more accurately computed).
As for the next release date, FS seems to be renamed every two years; FS98, 2000, 2002, 2004 etc; and released a year earlier, so unless MS bucks the trend, FS 2006 should be out in 2005
God I'm sad, real flying is more fun!