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Out of YYC you would probably be commuting to YYZ on the EMB or 767. Perhaps if you're lucky you might get RP 340 in YVR but not likely right of way. We have many commuters out of yyc to yyz but it's not easy. YVR is a very senior base. It's all do-able but not easy. In time you could get something out of YVR and commute there. Advantage? Great town, yyc. But so is yyz,yul or even yow(easy commute)
Out of YYC you would probably be commuting to YYZ on the EMB or 767. Perhaps if you're lucky you might get RP 340 in YVR but not likely right of way. We have many commuters out of yyc to yyz but it's not easy. YVR is a very senior base. It's all do-able but not easy. In time you could get something out of YVR and commute there. Advantage? Great town, yyc. But so is yyz,yul or even yow(easy commute)
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Brucelee,
what do you think my chances are with 3200 hours total time and 1400 hours right seat in a Boeing 727? Surely there must be lots of more qualified people out there with more time than that?
Again I think everyone on this forum appreciates the feedback.
what do you think my chances are with 3200 hours total time and 1400 hours right seat in a Boeing 727? Surely there must be lots of more qualified people out there with more time than that?
Again I think everyone on this forum appreciates the feedback.
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Brucelee:
I have been hearing the numbers and everthing sounds great. I am wondering what the process is when you get the call. Is there a tech. exan, medicial, group secesion...
Tks.
I have been hearing the numbers and everthing sounds great. I am wondering what the process is when you get the call. Is there a tech. exan, medicial, group secesion...
Tks.
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Brucelee,
Thanks for the reply. The info is helpfull but could you give a little more detail about what one would have to do in order to commute?
As for YYZ, I grew up just outside of there and I agree about it being a great place. Just I have put down roots here and am trying to look at every aspect.
Take care.
Adanac
Thanks for the reply. The info is helpfull but could you give a little more detail about what one would have to do in order to commute?
As for YYZ, I grew up just outside of there and I agree about it being a great place. Just I have put down roots here and am trying to look at every aspect.
Take care.
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Pilots who were on the short list before it all stopped will be given the same consideration as new applicants.
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As it were, the company has decided to go to the last pool (to save time?, to be fair? who knows). The info we pass on in this forum is obviously subject to change and always hard to figure out what the company will do as this is the first hiring under the new ACE corporation. Most of it is valid, some may need to be confirmed. I'm not quite sure where you whant to go with your comment.
As it were, the company has decided to go to the last pool (to save time?, to be fair? who knows). The info we pass on in this forum is obviously subject to change and always hard to figure out what the company will do as this is the first hiring under the new ACE corporation. Most of it is valid, some may need to be confirmed. I'm not quite sure where you whant to go with your comment.
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Brucelee, Inuksuk, et al:
Those of us who are working away in other corners of the Canadian industry really appreciate the info provided by you AC insiders.
It has been good to see AC emerging from the difficulties faced by all of the large airlines. Sounds like there is a lot of hiring to come this year and in the years to come hopefully.
How far in to the talent available will it go? I'm seeing guys commenting on here with thousands more hours than myself, and I've been encouraged by the responses.
Personally, I'm just shy of 2000 hours but with 900+ multi-turbine, 200+ of that PIC. All of that is glass/FMS time. Throw on top of that a few hundred hours back seating on a Boeing 3 holer.
Is there an outside shot of a guy like myself getting a call, or am I a couple of busy years away?
Those of us who are working away in other corners of the Canadian industry really appreciate the info provided by you AC insiders.
It has been good to see AC emerging from the difficulties faced by all of the large airlines. Sounds like there is a lot of hiring to come this year and in the years to come hopefully.
How far in to the talent available will it go? I'm seeing guys commenting on here with thousands more hours than myself, and I've been encouraged by the responses.
Personally, I'm just shy of 2000 hours but with 900+ multi-turbine, 200+ of that PIC. All of that is glass/FMS time. Throw on top of that a few hundred hours back seating on a Boeing 3 holer.
Is there an outside shot of a guy like myself getting a call, or am I a couple of busy years away?
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Highbypassratio,
It's hard to say what they are looking for but having been hired in the last hiring boom most of my classmates were from extremely different backgrounds and levels of experience.
I had 4000 hours all turboprop.Some guys had L1011 captain time and 10000 hrs+, another had never flown bigger than a Metroliner and had about 4000 hrs, another 2 were ex Snowbirds ,one a 757 FO , and another was flying BE1900's.
I was told that there is not a specific amount of hours to have ( although there is a absolute minimum wich I don't know) or a specific plane to have flown but to fit a certain profile and personality .I know guys with thousands of hours of jet pic who don't get called,others who do and guys with less time and experience who do get called....So I would say there is hope for all.
It's hard to say what they are looking for but having been hired in the last hiring boom most of my classmates were from extremely different backgrounds and levels of experience.
I had 4000 hours all turboprop.Some guys had L1011 captain time and 10000 hrs+, another had never flown bigger than a Metroliner and had about 4000 hrs, another 2 were ex Snowbirds ,one a 757 FO , and another was flying BE1900's.
I was told that there is not a specific amount of hours to have ( although there is a absolute minimum wich I don't know) or a specific plane to have flown but to fit a certain profile and personality .I know guys with thousands of hours of jet pic who don't get called,others who do and guys with less time and experience who do get called....So I would say there is hope for all.
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Hibypass. It's not easy to tell at this point who AC will hire.It seems that we'll have to wait for the first batch to go through and even then things may change along the way. In my opinion, given the large number of pilots required, anyone with some turbine time may eventually get a chance. Many pilots in this country with high time enjoy where they are and don't whant to leave or leaving is not feasable. The entry level position at AC is not for everyone anymore. This might give the rest a good chance to make it. Only my opinion. Patience and determination have always been a requirement in this industry.
Meaw. Management is aiming for a July course. Training dep is already swamped with the recalls and upgrades and new EMB training so I don't know if they can do it by July.
Meaw. Management is aiming for a July course. Training dep is already swamped with the recalls and upgrades and new EMB training so I don't know if they can do it by July.
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Straight from the AC website, not sure if it was posted on this thread already and I don't wanna bother to check:
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/career/pilots.html
Job Requirements
To fly for Air Canada, pilots must meet certain basic requirements:
Completion of schooling to the university entrance level. Ability to pass the Air Canada and Transport Canada medical and visual acuity requirements for a Category 1 medical certificate.
Canadian Airline Transport Pilot licence, current Instrument Rating and Multi-Engine endorsement.
Canadian citizenship or landed immigrant status.
Pilot applications far exceed job vacancies, so preference is given to candidates with qualifications beyond the basic requirements. Examples of desirable additional qualifications include, but are not limited to:
University degree or college diploma
Aviation College diploma
Military or commercial flight experience
Jet and/or glass cockpit experience
Additional language(s)
Currently Air Canada is not in a hiring phase ...watch this site for future notices on hiring status. In the meantime, you are encouraged to initiate and maintain your profile using the link at the end of this document.
It is anticipated that, in the next phase of pilot hiring at Air Canada, successful applicants will have in excess of 2500 hours of fixed wing flying time in a commercial or military environment.
http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/career/pilots.html
Job Requirements
To fly for Air Canada, pilots must meet certain basic requirements:
Completion of schooling to the university entrance level. Ability to pass the Air Canada and Transport Canada medical and visual acuity requirements for a Category 1 medical certificate.
Canadian Airline Transport Pilot licence, current Instrument Rating and Multi-Engine endorsement.
Canadian citizenship or landed immigrant status.
Pilot applications far exceed job vacancies, so preference is given to candidates with qualifications beyond the basic requirements. Examples of desirable additional qualifications include, but are not limited to:
University degree or college diploma
Aviation College diploma
Military or commercial flight experience
Jet and/or glass cockpit experience
Additional language(s)
Currently Air Canada is not in a hiring phase ...watch this site for future notices on hiring status. In the meantime, you are encouraged to initiate and maintain your profile using the link at the end of this document.
It is anticipated that, in the next phase of pilot hiring at Air Canada, successful applicants will have in excess of 2500 hours of fixed wing flying time in a commercial or military environment.
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Am I to understand that AC's medical is the same as TC?
Last time I talked with someone about the vision standards was a couple of years ago. Has this changed?
Last time I talked with someone about the vision standards was a couple of years ago. Has this changed?
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Latest is that the 600 will take about two yrs. First two courses(July and Aug) are the pool from last time. Only one interview for these guys done by AC management including sim eval and medical. After the "pool is empty" they go to the rest. Two interviews apparantly, one preliminary by this outside hiring firm and if that goes well then you get one with AC management as well as sim and medical exams. No other further details at this point.
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Medical is the same as TC. It used to be different ,more thorough, but a few that failed it sued for discrimination and won a few years back and today if you can hold the TC medical you should not have a problem with the AC one.
Medical is the same as TC. It used to be different ,more thorough, but a few that failed it sued for discrimination and won a few years back and today if you can hold the TC medical you should not have a problem with the AC one.
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Thanks, that's precisely why I was asking. The last information I had was that AC had their own standards. Ran into a few friends in Dubai that had their share of arguments with the medical and I just wanted to know what the progress on that was.
The next question which is more of a statement....why do they bother doing their own medical if the TC medical is acceptable? It just increases the hassle factor and raises the cost.
Either way, excellent news for us frozen heads out in the far reaches of the universe. Keep the information flowing.
The next question which is more of a statement....why do they bother doing their own medical if the TC medical is acceptable? It just increases the hassle factor and raises the cost.
Either way, excellent news for us frozen heads out in the far reaches of the universe. Keep the information flowing.