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GearDoor 13th Apr 2005 15:56

Red Team hiring?
 
I heard at work the other day that Air Canada will be hiring in November. Something about all furloughed pilots recalled plus approximately 200 new hires.

Also, does anyone know if they are planning to base EMB 175/190 in Winnipeg? Just curious.

brucelee 13th Apr 2005 18:13

Latest from the horse's mouth on our flt ops web site says all furloughed pilots are expected to be back to work by Sept this year with outside hiring beginning in "fourth quarter 2005, first quarter 2006". Pilots who were on the short list before it all stopped will be given the same consideration as new applicants.A hiring panel is about to be named and they will start reviewing resumes very shortly ( I think it's next week). The practice of hiring 50% from the connectors is gone. Electronic resumes on our website are the only avenue. Emb 170/190 bases are YUL and YYZ for now. No word on the numbers for now.
Good Luck to all interested.

flywestjetcr 13th Apr 2005 20:51

Will Jazz pilots be able to apply and be hired by Air Canada out side of their Jazz senority number ? Will Jazz ask Air Canada not to hire anyone from Jazz if they have been with the company for less than two years ? Curious...

brucelee 13th Apr 2005 22:41

flywest..

Good questions, we don't know what the deal with Jazz is but our flt ops manager claims there is no special preferance or deals but rest assure something is always in the background.

WF9F 14th Apr 2005 00:50

So i take it the few guys that were left in the hiring pool are now starting from scratch again?If so, that sucks.The hiring pool would have been quick access to some pilots who have already done the interview,sim, and cog test.

WF9F

GearDoor 14th Apr 2005 01:36

Hmmm, very interesting. Hopefully one could at least get an interview soon.

c150driver 14th Apr 2005 13:17

After all the pay cuts, does anyone have an actual figure on what the starting salary is? How long before formula pay kicks in and what approximately would that salary start at?

Thanks

GearDoor 14th Apr 2005 14:47

Check out www.airlinepilotpay.com

brucelee 14th Apr 2005 15:32

I believe those payrates are US$. Flat pay is for 2 yrs. After that you enter a "wage pool" which is calculated monthly and therefore varies but averages out to $60-70k/yr.
At the company's discretion you may be frozen for up to 5 yrs on your assigned initial position which will be A340/B767 relief pilot or Emb 170/190 FO ( the CRJ is leaving). You are in the wage pool untill you are awarded a higher-paying position i.e A320 FO.
There are two equipment bids per year, typically spring and fall and is awarded by seniority of course.
Per diems average $7-10k per year depending on equipment and is of course tax free.All in all not bad if you consider the long term benefits but things sure are not as good as it use to be.

Dockjock 14th Apr 2005 16:22

The other Canadian carriers listed on airlinepilotpay.com are in CDN$ so I suspect AC is as well.

brucelee 14th Apr 2005 16:30

Dock.
You're right. It says so on the bottom of the page. Yikes !

c150driver 15th Apr 2005 00:58

ouch...I'd make more as a manager at Burger king!:yuk:

brucelee 15th Apr 2005 01:45

c150.

Hey with your ambition you'd make manager in no time. Then again there's always Walmart. I here they love 737s. And no union dues.
Cheers.

c150driver 15th Apr 2005 14:31

Thanks for the compliment bruce!:O
I figure I'll make manager in about another 8 months.

Not sure what your walmart 737 comment means though...:confused:

brucelee 15th Apr 2005 15:38

c-150.

check your pm.

GearDoor 15th Apr 2005 21:26

When I worked at Burger King, none of the managers made that much. And besides, you won't go home smelling like whoppers and poutine after your done work.

brucelee 15th Apr 2005 22:54

ya and try getting a shoulder rub by a flt attendant at burger king:ok:

Inuksuk 17th Apr 2005 21:48

"ya and try getting a shoulder rub by a flt attendant at burger king"

*********************************************

I did, but she didn't want anything to do with my dill pickle - and then she slapped my Whooper.

My case is in court next week

:E

c150driver 18th Apr 2005 12:34


you won't go home smelling like whoppers and poutine after your done work
I've seen some of the FA's at Air Canada...you actually might come home smelling like poutine...or worse:ugh:

GearDoor 19th Apr 2005 15:45

Heard yesterday that interviews planned in September with hiring in November, this year.

On another note: Rumors have it that AC may be replacing wide-body Airbus types and 767's with 787 and 777 -200ER and -300ER. What are some of the implications of using a 2 engine type instead of a 4 engine on very long trips like YYZ-DEL, or YYZ-HHH? Is there ETOPS greater than 180 minutes?


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