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As a totally disinterested observer, I have to say that this post illustrates precisely the point that someone else (?Shadowpurser?) made the other day...
Why is it that so many ex-Ansett crew seem to feel that the world owes them a job?
Why is it that so many ex-Ansett crew seem to feel that the world owes them a job?
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cino2go I too am ex-Ansett and am astounded that you could even make that remark!! Have you applied to any airlines? Have you taken the initiative to get your resume together and "sell yourself"?
I'm sorry to hear that some people are putting every ex-Ansett person into the same old basket and think that we all believe we are owed a job. That is simply not true. There are some ex-Ansett people that (in my opinion) should not be flying again! Unfortunately they seem to be the same people that are whining and moaning that airlines are not knocking on their doors begging for them to come work for them.
If you want a job with the airlines you need to get out there, sell yourself and show them you are the best person for the job. You can't rely on the FAAA or anyone else to mollycoddle you and help you bypass the interview stage to land right in training school without making any effort yourself. And even then, your future employer has to believe you will be able to perform the duties of the role as THEY want you to perform them - not the way Ansett did!
OK enough of my rantings
Good Luck all!
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I'm sorry to hear that some people are putting every ex-Ansett person into the same old basket and think that we all believe we are owed a job. That is simply not true. There are some ex-Ansett people that (in my opinion) should not be flying again! Unfortunately they seem to be the same people that are whining and moaning that airlines are not knocking on their doors begging for them to come work for them.
If you want a job with the airlines you need to get out there, sell yourself and show them you are the best person for the job. You can't rely on the FAAA or anyone else to mollycoddle you and help you bypass the interview stage to land right in training school without making any effort yourself. And even then, your future employer has to believe you will be able to perform the duties of the role as THEY want you to perform them - not the way Ansett did!
OK enough of my rantings
Good Luck all!SG
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For starters.. I originally meant for this to be a reply to another post.. but somehow it ended up as a new message.
As for the FAAA.. They are as good as tits on a bull.
I am not expecting or demanding a job.. Just the preference that qantas said they would give and have not delivered in Sydney.
As for the FAAA.. They are as good as tits on a bull.
I am not expecting or demanding a job.. Just the preference that qantas said they would give and have not delivered in Sydney.
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cino2go as far as I know, Qantas is not yet recruiting for short or long haul positions in Sydney. That makes it a bit difficult to give "preference" to ex-Ansett people. If you had applied to Impulse, Eastern or even Australian you would have discovered that in fact ex-Ansett WERE given preference, as they were granted an interview, which a large percentage of applicants do not even receive!
To my knowledge, the only people working for QF as FAs that are ex-AN are a few that were doing the AWAS contract, and others who are on a casual basis through MAM.
If and when QF do recruit, they have guaranteed preference to ex-AN staff. Perhaps until then you should not limit yourself to QF and explore some of the other options available.
All the best
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To my knowledge, the only people working for QF as FAs that are ex-AN are a few that were doing the AWAS contract, and others who are on a casual basis through MAM.
If and when QF do recruit, they have guaranteed preference to ex-AN staff. Perhaps until then you should not limit yourself to QF and explore some of the other options available.
All the best
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Dear cino2go
Why not try Emirates and Virgin Blue.... as both are recruiting Cabin Crew now. Check out their websites. QF might be a few months before they start seeking applicants again.
Cheers
Why not try Emirates and Virgin Blue.... as both are recruiting Cabin Crew now. Check out their websites. QF might be a few months before they start seeking applicants again.
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As a FA for Eastern I can tell you we conducted several rounds of interveiws for ex ansett group FA's ONLY. From this we have 30++ new FA's from kendell/ansett. This discrimination has denied many eager however inexperienced applicants the opportunity to as least interview for positions. It has also prevented career progression from QF regionals to mainline Qantas as positions available were given to ex ansett staff. I don't really think you have a right to complain when Qantas has given ex ansetters preference over there own staff. For some out there it was clearly time to hang up thier wings anyway. Cino I am compassionate toward those affected by Ansetts plight but it could be seen comming since things went sour last Easter. Good things come to those who wait............ PATIENTLY.
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Hi Chino2go
Sorry to see there are so many people out there with attitude regarding the demise of Ansett
Id like to say that the staff are not to blame for their unfortunate situation and some compassion should be shown. Their were many very good people in the company and they deserve a break. How would you feel if the job u were working hard at with all the smiles and good humor suddenly was taken away and u had to start again. Its not a nice position................
Chino2go you have every right to ask the question re employment, as evey airline has cashed in on the good press of making these offers.
For those knockers.... Did any one ask if she has tried the various chanels through MAM and Australian etc.
Just stop knocking Ansett staff they are qualified and should be treated with some concideration.
By the way Age shouldnt be an issue u dont become old and bitchy many young people start out that way and want it all today while many older staff just enjoy their work as the have from the begining. SO STOP THIS AGE AND GOOD LOOKS CARRY ON its soooo boring and childish.
I hope things work out for u and just keep trying and asking every airline you get luck soon 
Sorry to see there are so many people out there with attitude regarding the demise of Ansett
Id like to say that the staff are not to blame for their unfortunate situation and some compassion should be shown. Their were many very good people in the company and they deserve a break. How would you feel if the job u were working hard at with all the smiles and good humor suddenly was taken away and u had to start again. Its not a nice position................
Chino2go you have every right to ask the question re employment, as evey airline has cashed in on the good press of making these offers.
For those knockers.... Did any one ask if she has tried the various chanels through MAM and Australian etc.
Just stop knocking Ansett staff they are qualified and should be treated with some concideration.
By the way Age shouldnt be an issue u dont become old and bitchy many young people start out that way and want it all today while many older staff just enjoy their work as the have from the begining. SO STOP THIS AGE AND GOOD LOOKS CARRY ON its soooo boring and childish.
I hope things work out for u and just keep trying and asking every airline you get luck soon
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You have made some good points here.. On the weekend of 15/9/2001, Qantas tookout FULL PAGE adverts saying we have preference etc. In Sydney in Particular nothing has happened. IN other bases recruitment has taken place and some staff have been employed. As for some of the comments made here i dont really know what to make of them. Is the world really bitter and twisted ? Who knows.
Just for the record i have applied with Australian and are through to the final round.
You also have to question why the Aust govt is willing to give Mitsubishi $500 Million to keep them producing cars at a cost to the tax payer, but was not willing to help Ansett.
You have made some good points here.. On the weekend of 15/9/2001, Qantas tookout FULL PAGE adverts saying we have preference etc. In Sydney in Particular nothing has happened. IN other bases recruitment has taken place and some staff have been employed. As for some of the comments made here i dont really know what to make of them. Is the world really bitter and twisted ? Who knows.
Just for the record i have applied with Australian and are through to the final round.
You also have to question why the Aust govt is willing to give Mitsubishi $500 Million to keep them producing cars at a cost to the tax payer, but was not willing to help Ansett.
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Cino2go, sorry to disappoint you but I don't think the panel interview with AUZ will be "the last stage".
I got told so while booking my panel interview. I asked if I had to bring my school certificate on the day (I had to get it mailed from Europe and translated in English) and I got told that this would be checked during stage 3, together with references...
If YOU are correct and there is NO stage 3, chances to get in after stage 2 are 1 on 3 only.
If you review the numbers: 960 interviewed, 50 % received stage 2, which means 480 still running. They need 160 only... I don't like maths but this makes sense.
33.333333333 % ... pfffff..... I hate this!
Good luck! Let us know how you go!
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I got told so while booking my panel interview. I asked if I had to bring my school certificate on the day (I had to get it mailed from Europe and translated in English) and I got told that this would be checked during stage 3, together with references...
If YOU are correct and there is NO stage 3, chances to get in after stage 2 are 1 on 3 only.
If you review the numbers: 960 interviewed, 50 % received stage 2, which means 480 still running. They need 160 only... I don't like maths but this makes sense.
33.333333333 % ... pfffff..... I hate this!Good luck! Let us know how you go!
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Dear Chino2go
dont be too concerned Float jocky is guessing the process.
Having made it through a Qantas process, I can tell u this much. Your first interview is the group project style then you will be invited for a 1 on 2 interview. You with 2 Qantas reps. If you survive that and that is the big elimination point they then check your ref, Send you for a medical, Do a security check, and if all is ok you are then in the waiting room. Waiting for a start date. They need 160 to start the airline but even if they like you you may not start in the first 160. You could be put on hold as they are expecting rapid growth in this Airline. This means if you havent been told NO and you havent been given a start date that you will most likely hear nothing till they are ready to use you. This is the most frustrating time, best to just get on with other things and at some time they will give you that happy call. They dont give you any indication these days as it leaves them open to all sorts of discrimination and other issues, so they say nothing till they have made up their mind what to do with you.
NOTE while they say they want 160 you can bet they will have many more waiting in the wings incase some fail ground school or the situation changes and they need to quickly recruit more F/As
So just relax and keep going and dont listen to too much the sad rubbish some kids put out. They have no idea what the process is all about and are just passing on gossip.
dont be too concerned Float jocky is guessing the process.
Having made it through a Qantas process, I can tell u this much. Your first interview is the group project style then you will be invited for a 1 on 2 interview. You with 2 Qantas reps. If you survive that and that is the big elimination point they then check your ref, Send you for a medical, Do a security check, and if all is ok you are then in the waiting room. Waiting for a start date. They need 160 to start the airline but even if they like you you may not start in the first 160. You could be put on hold as they are expecting rapid growth in this Airline. This means if you havent been told NO and you havent been given a start date that you will most likely hear nothing till they are ready to use you. This is the most frustrating time, best to just get on with other things and at some time they will give you that happy call. They dont give you any indication these days as it leaves them open to all sorts of discrimination and other issues, so they say nothing till they have made up their mind what to do with you.
NOTE while they say they want 160 you can bet they will have many more waiting in the wings incase some fail ground school or the situation changes and they need to quickly recruit more F/As
So just relax and keep going and dont listen to too much the sad rubbish some kids put out. They have no idea what the process is all about and are just passing on gossip.
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Sweetheart, as far as im concerned, i hope that VB NEVER recruit any more Ex-Ansett, esp with an attitude like yours.
We have had nothing but stinky attitude brought on board from many Ex Ansett F/A's. They come into an airline like VB and expect to have it as easy as they did in the past.....they do nothing but complain, complain and DAMN COMPLAIN some more.
With all due respect to the few that have the right attitude, but the majority are like clones from the one sample.
I do hope VB do take care in their interview process, and not recruit just because of their prior experience.
Lets face it, its not brian surgery to learn such a job....4 weeks is all it takes and no prior experience as an advantage....NOTHING BUT THE RIGHT ATTITUDE IS ALL BUT NEEDED.
Sweetheart, as far as im concerned, i hope that VB NEVER recruit any more Ex-Ansett, esp with an attitude like yours.
We have had nothing but stinky attitude brought on board from many Ex Ansett F/A's. They come into an airline like VB and expect to have it as easy as they did in the past.....they do nothing but complain, complain and DAMN COMPLAIN some more.
With all due respect to the few that have the right attitude, but the majority are like clones from the one sample.
I do hope VB do take care in their interview process, and not recruit just because of their prior experience.
Lets face it, its not brian surgery to learn such a job....4 weeks is all it takes and no prior experience as an advantage....NOTHING BUT THE RIGHT ATTITUDE IS ALL BUT NEEDED.
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GONE SKIING, don't you think you're having a bit of an attitude here??
My so to say "gossip" is what I got told by A.A. recruitment while booking stage 2, which means I am also booked for an AUZ panel interview and I am not writing kids' rubbish, since I am in the same situation as Cino2go! Call it gossip... 
Do you think because you're in Qantas you know it all about other airlines' interviews????? Well, lets get over it! I hope you treat your passengers with more respect than your fellow PPruNers...
I agree they will probabily keep few people on hold for a while, but this is not always good news! We have read on this forum about someone that got "rejected" by Qantas after a year waiting for the final decision.... (Bella 75?)
They will for sure put on course slightly over 160 in case some people fail the exam or change their mind, however I still believe at this stage our chances are 1 on 3. A stage 2 doesn't mean VICTORY! If we are not what they are looking for, they'll run another interview process alltogether.
I'm not trying to be negative, I'm only explaining things under a different angle... You know, the higher you climb with your expectations, the bigger the fall...............
Cino2go, let's be prepared for a YES or a NO... All we can do is to work on our answers, find out as much as we can about Asia, keep the energy going and the grooming as per standard.
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Exotic-Temptress, I reckon there are loads of ex-AN with fantastic attitude (and experience). You simply happen to work with the wrong ones... These people will quit very soon. I'm sure you know how to choose your friends!
dont listen to too much the sad rubbish some kids put out. They have no idea what the process is all about and are just passing on gossip.
Do you think because you're in Qantas you know it all about other airlines' interviews????? Well, lets get over it! I hope you treat your passengers with more respect than your fellow PPruNers...
I agree they will probabily keep few people on hold for a while, but this is not always good news! We have read on this forum about someone that got "rejected" by Qantas after a year waiting for the final decision.... (Bella 75?)
They will for sure put on course slightly over 160 in case some people fail the exam or change their mind, however I still believe at this stage our chances are 1 on 3. A stage 2 doesn't mean VICTORY! If we are not what they are looking for, they'll run another interview process alltogether.
I'm not trying to be negative, I'm only explaining things under a different angle... You know, the higher you climb with your expectations, the bigger the fall...............
Cino2go, let's be prepared for a YES or a NO... All we can do is to work on our answers, find out as much as we can about Asia, keep the energy going and the grooming as per standard.
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Exotic-Temptress, I reckon there are loads of ex-AN with fantastic attitude (and experience). You simply happen to work with the wrong ones... These people will quit very soon. I'm sure you know how to choose your friends!
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We do work with people whom we dont always get along with.
Unfortunately we dont have a say in the matter, and yes my last post wasn't a general comment, but of the ones whom i've had to face.
There is good and bad in everyone, in every airline and in every industry.
We do work with people whom we dont always get along with.
Unfortunately we dont have a say in the matter, and yes my last post wasn't a general comment, but of the ones whom i've had to face.
There is good and bad in everyone, in every airline and in every industry.
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QUOTE " dont listen to too much the sad rubbish some kids put out. They have no idea what the process is all about and are just passing on gossip. "
I'm not to happy with that comment I must say. As a " kid " ( 18-25 year age bracket ) which I assume is the age bracket you are referring to, I was on this forum receiving and passing on information to others about airline recruitment and I would have to say that as a " kid " I know a sh*t load about the recruitment process of all airlines simply because I dedicated myself to finding out as much as I could about recruitment - reading books, phoning and speaking to f/a's, writing to airlines and ringing other ppruners in other cities to find out all the new information and gossip I could on recruitment. I am proud to say that as a kid at most airline interviews I attended I knew a sh*t load more than others ( including ex ansett ) at the interviews. If it wasn't for the " rubbish " that others on this pprune forum passed on to me, I wouldn't be as happy as larry in my current f/a position.
Every piece of information on this forum is valuable to someone - in gaining their dream position as flight attendant.
Keep up the gossip and recruitment news for the benefit of others I say.
CABINBOY
I'm not to happy with that comment I must say. As a " kid " ( 18-25 year age bracket ) which I assume is the age bracket you are referring to, I was on this forum receiving and passing on information to others about airline recruitment and I would have to say that as a " kid " I know a sh*t load about the recruitment process of all airlines simply because I dedicated myself to finding out as much as I could about recruitment - reading books, phoning and speaking to f/a's, writing to airlines and ringing other ppruners in other cities to find out all the new information and gossip I could on recruitment. I am proud to say that as a kid at most airline interviews I attended I knew a sh*t load more than others ( including ex ansett ) at the interviews. If it wasn't for the " rubbish " that others on this pprune forum passed on to me, I wouldn't be as happy as larry in my current f/a position.
Every piece of information on this forum is valuable to someone - in gaining their dream position as flight attendant.
Keep up the gossip and recruitment news for the benefit of others I say.
CABINBOY
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Re : Exotic Temp Comments.
As for being a Virgin BLue flight attendant, Your Nick really suits you. You are the exact model that VB look for.
General requirements for VB FA are Blonde, Bimbo and Large breasts. Thats the go.
In an emergency situation i would rather have the old bitter twisted ansett/qantas team member on my flight.
One that will be able to open the door/window with out freezing.
I can imagine a Virgin Blue evacuation.
This is Cassie the Ex Gold Coast Meter Maid.. We are evacuating by Hair Colour today.. Blonde's first !
Singapore learnt the hard way 2 years ago when the 747 hit the brick wall in rain. The lovely flight attendants just froze!
If Virgin Blue is such a great ailine --- Why do so many want to get into Qantas ?
As for being a Virgin BLue flight attendant, Your Nick really suits you. You are the exact model that VB look for.
General requirements for VB FA are Blonde, Bimbo and Large breasts. Thats the go.
In an emergency situation i would rather have the old bitter twisted ansett/qantas team member on my flight.
One that will be able to open the door/window with out freezing.
I can imagine a Virgin Blue evacuation.
This is Cassie the Ex Gold Coast Meter Maid.. We are evacuating by Hair Colour today.. Blonde's first !
Singapore learnt the hard way 2 years ago when the 747 hit the brick wall in rain. The lovely flight attendants just froze!
If Virgin Blue is such a great ailine --- Why do so many want to get into Qantas ?
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cino2go has it down pat. Your nick is perfect.
One question Ms Exotic .... How long did you try to get into Ansett or QF before getting into Virgin? Were you knocked back a few times before your fortune changed and a airline comenced flying with a totally new concept in recruitment. No brains required as long as you have large breasts, blond hair and are under 25!!
You may dispute these requirments however at a recent Virgin bimbo recruitment drive in Brisbane, only 5 minutes into the interview session, the interviewers were overheard by more than one person offering two young bimbos with very large breasts a second interview. This was well before they strutted their stuff in the circus acts to follow.
Furthermore my neighbour was on a flight from Melb to Perth 2 weeks ago when a virgin bimbo demonstrating the life jacket told passengers around her not to worry as "we will all die if we crash". VERY UNPROFESIONAL would'nt you say. But to a blonde bimbo like yourself, perhaps not!!!
How about you stop bashing Ansett and QF people and just count yourself lucky that bimbo airlines comenced in Australia. You don't have to worry about to many of us joining your mickey mouse airline.... I and many others have no desire to join the flying circus....
cino2go has it down pat. Your nick is perfect.
One question Ms Exotic .... How long did you try to get into Ansett or QF before getting into Virgin? Were you knocked back a few times before your fortune changed and a airline comenced flying with a totally new concept in recruitment. No brains required as long as you have large breasts, blond hair and are under 25!!
You may dispute these requirments however at a recent Virgin bimbo recruitment drive in Brisbane, only 5 minutes into the interview session, the interviewers were overheard by more than one person offering two young bimbos with very large breasts a second interview. This was well before they strutted their stuff in the circus acts to follow.
Furthermore my neighbour was on a flight from Melb to Perth 2 weeks ago when a virgin bimbo demonstrating the life jacket told passengers around her not to worry as "we will all die if we crash". VERY UNPROFESIONAL would'nt you say. But to a blonde bimbo like yourself, perhaps not!!!
How about you stop bashing Ansett and QF people and just count yourself lucky that bimbo airlines comenced in Australia. You don't have to worry about to many of us joining your mickey mouse airline.... I and many others have no desire to join the flying circus....