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Seems Unite are clearly not bothered about the whole 'continuation of the existing dispute' debate, having announced their intention to re-ballot and, in the same message, directly linked this ballot to the previous issues.
I hope for their members sake that their understanding of Trade Union law is better than BA's......
doh.
I hope for their members sake that their understanding of Trade Union law is better than BA's......
doh.
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still there and still on their terms and conditions 2 years later..
none of them have signed a new contract... I wouldnt call that defeated!!!
You all seem so interested in BASSA the second it was put on the forum you have it copied and pasted on here.. ????
I think you all secretly wish you had the convictions that these people have instead of fleecing the company for all you can whilst pretending your supporting it
none of them have signed a new contract... I wouldnt call that defeated!!!
You all seem so interested in BASSA the second it was put on the forum you have it copied and pasted on here.. ????
I think you all secretly wish you had the convictions that these people have instead of fleecing the company for all you can whilst pretending your supporting it
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still there and still on there terms and conditions 2years later.. none of them have signed a new contract... i wouldnt call that defeated!!!
You cant change the fight after you've lost it. Its like Argentina claiming that invading the falklands was just a bit of fun and didnt matter.
You arent on the same T+Cs you are a good 10% down with whats now 3 years without a pay rise.
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still there and still got their dignity..no back stabbing for this lot heads held high and continuing.
stooping low to compare this with the Falklands... that was another folly engineered by policitians for a politicians gain!
stooping low to compare this with the Falklands... that was another folly engineered by policitians for a politicians gain!
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still there and still on their terms and conditions 2 years later..
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Why is it never their fault?
If the Union was competent, they would have ensured that the running of the ballot was watertight, and so would have ignored any moves by BA. The fact that they are reacting to BA's complaints by rerunning the ballot suggests that BA has a point, which points towards the Union being less than competent.
Oh well, it's their money (actually, of course, the Unite members' money, who should be better served than by this shower)
If the Union was competent, they would have ensured that the running of the ballot was watertight, and so would have ignored any moves by BA. The fact that they are reacting to BA's complaints by rerunning the ballot suggests that BA has a point, which points towards the Union being less than competent.
Oh well, it's their money (actually, of course, the Unite members' money, who should be better served than by this shower)
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Hey dave3
BASSA hypocrisy alive and strong then dave 3, I mean its not like BASSA to compare themselves to Iowa Jima, the missing wall in Argentina or tiananmen square 
stooping low to compare this with the Falklands
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Which one of the impositions would you like me to start with?
and the fact that you all believed a company when they asked you to work a month for free because they were in financial difficulties, followed by the top management of this company in financial difficulties awarding themselves large bonuses, and then look at the individuals who took large amounts of money to break the strike. We are all well aware of the amounts of money paid out to break this strike. It beggers belief that those same people would say they are backing the company. No they were lining their pockets, other wise they would have volunteered for free is that not the sentiment of volunteering?
and the fact that you all believed a company when they asked you to work a month for free because they were in financial difficulties, followed by the top management of this company in financial difficulties awarding themselves large bonuses, and then look at the individuals who took large amounts of money to break the strike. We are all well aware of the amounts of money paid out to break this strike. It beggers belief that those same people would say they are backing the company. No they were lining their pockets, other wise they would have volunteered for free is that not the sentiment of volunteering?
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still there and still got their dignity..no back stabbing for this lot heads held high and continuing.
You certainly won't be admired by the overwhelming majority of staff/passengers/public and media etc.
the fact that you all believed a company when they asked you to work a month for free because they were in financial difficulties
Ironically, it may well be us that currently secures your job!
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Which one of the impositions would you like me to start with?
We are all well aware of the amounts of money paid out to break this strike. It beggers belief that those same people would say they are backing the company. No they were lining their pockets
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"You certainly won't be admired by the overwhelming majority of staff/passengers/public and media etc"
Thank you for your concerns however BASSA members have had to become much more resiliant than they are given credit for.
Working with collegues who are willing to sell you for 30 pieces of silver at a whim would shape you that way I would think.
Thank you for your concerns however BASSA members have had to become much more resiliant than they are given credit for.
Working with collegues who are willing to sell you for 30 pieces of silver at a whim would shape you that way I would think.
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Which one of the impositions would you like me to start with?
and the fact that you all believed a company when they asked you to work a month for free because they were in financial difficulties, followed by the top management of this company in financial difficulties awarding themselves large bonuses, and then look at the individuals who took large amounts of money to break the strike. We are all well aware of the amounts of money paid out to break this strike. It beggers belief that those same people would say they are backing the company. No they were lining their pockets, other wise they would have volunteered for free is that not the sentiment of volunteering
and the fact that you all believed a company when they asked you to work a month for free because they were in financial difficulties, followed by the top management of this company in financial difficulties awarding themselves large bonuses, and then look at the individuals who took large amounts of money to break the strike. We are all well aware of the amounts of money paid out to break this strike. It beggers belief that those same people would say they are backing the company. No they were lining their pockets, other wise they would have volunteered for free is that not the sentiment of volunteering
Because you're talking rubbish. Nobody got paid anything more that their normal rates.
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Another ballot..... This seems to be all that Unite can do and then not within the law.
More time for BA to train new cabin crew and VCCs so that they can ignore the next ballot even more than they did this one. If that is possible.
Unite and BASSA have no credibility left at all.
More time for BA to train new cabin crew and VCCs so that they can ignore the next ballot even more than they did this one. If that is possible.
Unite and BASSA have no credibility left at all.
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Hotel mode thats the thing in a democracy, you are allowed a view, perhaps it may not be the same view as yours but its my view and the view of thousands.
I take it that all those in the company that won money in court over holiday pay will be giving it back to the company during this fight for survival ?
I take it that all those in the company that won money in court over holiday pay will be giving it back to the company during this fight for survival ?
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Chelsea FC is a business as well as a performing football team who actually bought their opponent's best player for 50 million bits of silver.
When the Ref said it was over, and nobody is making claim that he was cheating, it was over and the result stands.
If it was a Cup game and had been drawn there would be a replay to look forward too. But it wasn't, was it? Liverpool win the game, somehow, and every one lives to fight another day.
No tainted and untruthful claims made by the losing team, no demands for a replay, no miscarriages of justice.
Unite and Bassa have been defeated, and I get no satisfaction from that. Live to fight another day and put this one behind you, it's simply nothing more than an embarrassing farce now and it needs to end.
Otherwise, you might find youselves relegated to the 2nd Division and replaced by a newly promoted team that is far more entertaining and gives its supporters better value for money.
I thought it inappropriate to use historic analogies assimilating Unite and BA as the evil participants in a war (yawn) so I used historic analogy of the 2010/11 Football Season instead. No offence meant to supporters of Liverpool or Chelsea.
When the Ref said it was over, and nobody is making claim that he was cheating, it was over and the result stands.
If it was a Cup game and had been drawn there would be a replay to look forward too. But it wasn't, was it? Liverpool win the game, somehow, and every one lives to fight another day.
No tainted and untruthful claims made by the losing team, no demands for a replay, no miscarriages of justice.
Unite and Bassa have been defeated, and I get no satisfaction from that. Live to fight another day and put this one behind you, it's simply nothing more than an embarrassing farce now and it needs to end.
Otherwise, you might find youselves relegated to the 2nd Division and replaced by a newly promoted team that is far more entertaining and gives its supporters better value for money.
I thought it inappropriate to use historic analogies assimilating Unite and BA as the evil participants in a war (yawn) so I used historic analogy of the 2010/11 Football Season instead. No offence meant to supporters of Liverpool or Chelsea.
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I think the supporters have had fantastic value for money so far. I know of no crew or flight crew who are financialy out of pocket for breaking the strike. Infact very very well off. ????
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dave3, you said
I can assure you that just like BASSA, there has been no victory in court over Holiday Pay, lets get the facts straight shall we?
no, worse of for reasons explained over 1 year ago, please stop passing questions of as fact
I take it that all those in the company that won money in court over holiday pay will be giving it back to the company during this fight for survival ?
Infact very very well off. ????
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Chelsea and Liverpool
Problem is Lib Dem.
Tha annalogy doesn't work, as in the BASSA version of the game the player was never sold, Liverpool never won the game, in fact the game didn't even take place!!!
Their version was the player was not sold for £xx million but taken from them by the bullying tactics of Liverpool, the ref was really a BAPLA member being paid by Liverpool and actually Chelsea won the game 3-1...
It does not matter what the facts are they will always twist them, make up fantasy and believe it. It really is so, so sad. I honestly wonder if the people that post on here are real or just wind-up merchants (trolls) as what they seem to believe and spout out just beggars belief. Talk about the Emperors New Clothes - phew!
Tha annalogy doesn't work, as in the BASSA version of the game the player was never sold, Liverpool never won the game, in fact the game didn't even take place!!!
Their version was the player was not sold for £xx million but taken from them by the bullying tactics of Liverpool, the ref was really a BAPLA member being paid by Liverpool and actually Chelsea won the game 3-1...
It does not matter what the facts are they will always twist them, make up fantasy and believe it. It really is so, so sad. I honestly wonder if the people that post on here are real or just wind-up merchants (trolls) as what they seem to believe and spout out just beggars belief. Talk about the Emperors New Clothes - phew!