British Airways vs. BASSA (Airline Staff Only)
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dave747436 said: My understanding is that a company cannot discriminate against employees engaged in a legal strike... (except for non-contractual items)
Am I the only one to feel distinctly uncomfortable at seeing the behaviour of the BASSA contingent at Bedfont on TV?
Masks of WW with 'Devil horns' hastily scribbled on, a washing line with underpants & the slogan "Willie is pants", derogatory banners and chanting, etc. All very undignified. What must our pax make of it all?
This does nothing for the dignity of the profession or the uniform.
It demonstrates the calibre of mentality of those concerned, but I feel hugely embarrassed that these people should represent BA- in any guise.
Masks of WW with 'Devil horns' hastily scribbled on, a washing line with underpants & the slogan "Willie is pants", derogatory banners and chanting, etc. All very undignified. What must our pax make of it all?
This does nothing for the dignity of the profession or the uniform.
It demonstrates the calibre of mentality of those concerned, but I feel hugely embarrassed that these people should represent BA- in any guise.
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..buttons (nuclear), spring to mind. No wonder BA have been keeping their powder dry. A very neat wat of offering militancy a way out - with dignity.
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My source is the BASSA Forum where tens of crew are admitting that they have been told they must have this mystery interview (as described) and have said that the BA Employee (crewing / scheduler?) who told them about it said it was about "signing a contract" before they came back to work.
That is all the details I have at the moment but it is not an isolated incident and a good few crew are reporting the same. Reporting sketchy as even they don't seem to know what it's about.
I guess the next 24 hours will see things become clear
Can you reveal your source?
That is all the details I have at the moment but it is not an isolated incident and a good few crew are reporting the same. Reporting sketchy as even they don't seem to know what it's about.
I guess the next 24 hours will see things become clear
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'I would hope for the companies sake, that BA show mercy for crew who return contritely to their roles. Forgiveness is a virtue much needed in the aftermath of this sorry era of our company'
I agree with you again Right Engine, though if their behaviour is anything like that portrayed at the Bedfont Football Club and the picket lines, I'd assume contrition is something not in their volcabulary.
I hope I'm wrong...who knows?
I agree with you again Right Engine, though if their behaviour is anything like that portrayed at the Bedfont Football Club and the picket lines, I'd assume contrition is something not in their volcabulary.
I hope I'm wrong...who knows?
Sky News is reporting the costs to BA have been 7 million a day x 3 days. I assume that any new deal WW presents to Unite/Bassa will be 21 million quid worse off now.
Unless Unite backs down, I can't really see how next weeks strikes are going to be avoided.
If next weeks strikes go ahead, I can't see the strikers coming back to work for BA again either. It seems to have turned very personal.
A real shame for the many good people that have been caught up in all this.
Unless Unite backs down, I can't really see how next weeks strikes are going to be avoided.
If next weeks strikes go ahead, I can't see the strikers coming back to work for BA again either. It seems to have turned very personal.
A real shame for the many good people that have been caught up in all this.
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I hear the programme for the next strike dates is nearly finalised.
It includes an almost complete schedule at Gatwick and a substantially increased programme at Heathrow. I think they will be able to quote flying over 80% of passengers next weekend.
All from a very reliable senior source in Waterside.
Woodley will be looking even more desperate than he already does when those factual numbers get released. I suspect he might start to take more of a back seat and let Looney Len take the flack!
It includes an almost complete schedule at Gatwick and a substantially increased programme at Heathrow. I think they will be able to quote flying over 80% of passengers next weekend.
All from a very reliable senior source in Waterside.
Woodley will be looking even more desperate than he already does when those factual numbers get released. I suspect he might start to take more of a back seat and let Looney Len take the flack!
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I suspect it will be some non-strike agreement for next weekend or something similar. I doubt they'll go fully nuclear tomorrow. Maybe, one last chance and if you still stay away...........who knows 
For those talking about staff Travel. Lets see if any strikers can still access (and successfully book a ticket on) ST on Friday.
For those talking about staff Travel. Lets see if any strikers can still access (and successfully book a ticket on) ST on Friday.
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It is a fact that a lot of striking crew, as well having their rosters wiped with XXXX's have also been asked to attend Cranebank tomorrow, not in uniform to "sign a contract".
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British Airways Statement On Unite Stike - PROFIT OUTLOOK UNCHANGED
BA has released this statement today at 1830.
Contingency plans for the three days of industrial disruption have been very successful.
Over the first two days, the airline operated 273 or 78 per cent of its longhaul flights and 442 or 50 per cent of its shorthaul flights. Seat factors were good at 68 per cent in longhaul and 69 per cent in shorthaul. Club World seat factor was just under 60 per cent. In addition the airline operated 70 positioning flights, which in most cases carried cargo, to return passengers home with minimum disruption.
We started the weekend with 82,573 bookings for the two days after our reservation teams had worked with our customers to reduce bookings (including accommodating some passengers for travel in the days leading up to the weekend) to reflect the smaller flying programme. In fact, over the two days we carried 86,262 passengers, due to late additional bookings.
This strong operational performance made possible by dedicated BA staff has significantly reduced the financial impact of the disruption. Current best estimate is that the 3-day industrial action will cost £7 million a day. Assessment of the cost of potential future industrial action can only be made after the event. As a result full year earnings expectations to March 31, 2010 remains broadly unchanged.
Over the first two days, the airline operated 273 or 78 per cent of its longhaul flights and 442 or 50 per cent of its shorthaul flights. Seat factors were good at 68 per cent in longhaul and 69 per cent in shorthaul. Club World seat factor was just under 60 per cent. In addition the airline operated 70 positioning flights, which in most cases carried cargo, to return passengers home with minimum disruption.
We started the weekend with 82,573 bookings for the two days after our reservation teams had worked with our customers to reduce bookings (including accommodating some passengers for travel in the days leading up to the weekend) to reflect the smaller flying programme. In fact, over the two days we carried 86,262 passengers, due to late additional bookings.
This strong operational performance made possible by dedicated BA staff has significantly reduced the financial impact of the disruption. Current best estimate is that the 3-day industrial action will cost £7 million a day. Assessment of the cost of potential future industrial action can only be made after the event. As a result full year earnings expectations to March 31, 2010 remains broadly unchanged.
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The behaviour of the BASSA fundamentalists at Bedfont is shocking. Obviously not a care in the world for our customers who have had their travel plans disrupted. You are carrying on like you've had too many alcopops in the local park! How do you expect to be taken seriously? I too will not tolerate any bullying of the loyal (and sober) crew that have had the intelligence not to strike. Being off-loaded will only add to your problems!
Good luck to all at the PCCC - you have earned the respect of the BA flight crew community through your bravery.
Good luck to all at the PCCC - you have earned the respect of the BA flight crew community through your bravery.
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Little bit of a warning
I was reading the Guardian web pages today and found that they are directly quoting from here:
BA strike final day - how it happened | News | guardian.co.uk
Might be worth bearing in mind when writing posts.
However, many staff like me are finding this interesting reading and giving an extra insight to the dispute. For this, I thank the contributors.
Mark.
BA strike final day - how it happened | News | guardian.co.uk
Might be worth bearing in mind when writing posts.
However, many staff like me are finding this interesting reading and giving an extra insight to the dispute. For this, I thank the contributors.
Mark.
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I believe that those who have been on strike may well have had their ID cards "parked". This as a precaution to stop strikers infiltrating CRC etc and taking names. It is probable that this mystery meeting is merely the process of "unparking" their ID cards and allowing them to return to work on the promise of no strike at the weekend. No promise = no return to work.
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Arthur,would have thought aircraft will continue to fly with with minimum legal crew levels than were originally asked ( ironic) as some flights have done apparently, according to earlier posts.
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On the GMTV poll this morning public support for Cabin Crew seems strong
Meaningless. It's easy to sympathise with cabin crew for a poll that doesn't cost the public a penny.
Does anyone believe that sympathy will extend to paying an extra £100 on their summer holiday air fare rather than go with EasyJet?
Not a chance.
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From the Sun
From The Sun
Nice to see a bit of sensational journalism
British Heirways
PRINCE William jetted home from skiing yesterday using strike-hit British Airways - enraging union firebrands hell-bent on grounding him.
Wills, 27, joined tens of thousands who defiantly boarded jets - some of the flights using specially- chartered planes.
The Prince and 200 passengers flew home from Switzerland on an aircraft supplied by Jet2 - complete with cabin crew to replace those on strike.
First class ... BA-chartered Jet2 plane
He enjoyed a fuss-free three-hour flight to Heathrow's Terminal 5 as the weekend plot to bring BA grinding to a halt spectacularly flopped.
The relieved airline saw virtually ALL its staff report for duty at Gatwick - and more than half turn up at Heathrow.
BA chiefs were even able to add flights to the pared-down service they expected to run.
The Unite union was left desperate for a propaganda coup to bolster its three-day walkout by cabin crew, which started on Saturday and continues today. Its biggest hope was to strand Wills in Geneva after his ski holiday with girlfriend Kate Middleton, 28.
A source said of the Prince's flight: "It's a major kick in the teeth for the unions.
"They would have loved to have embarrassed BA by leaving William struggling."
Dispute ... Heathrow pickets
Humiliated Unite, which called the strikes because loss-making BA needs to cut costs, insisted 80 per cent of its 12,000 members joined walkouts which affected an estimated 60,000 passengers.
Union supremo Tony Woodley saluted the "magnificent" support. But today BA expects to run up to three quarters of scheduled flights. Mr Woodley urged BA's board to go behind the back of chief Willie Walsh to negotiate with strikers. A fresh walkout next Saturday is due to last four days.
Unite has poured £11million into Labour's coffers in the past three years - and ministers have refused to back those crossing picket lines.
Last night a BA insider said of the showdown with militants: "The union can bleat all it wants - we're winning."
Prince William flies in on strike-buster BA jet | The Sun |News
Nice to see a bit of sensational journalism
British Heirways
PRINCE William jetted home from skiing yesterday using strike-hit British Airways - enraging union firebrands hell-bent on grounding him.
Wills, 27, joined tens of thousands who defiantly boarded jets - some of the flights using specially- chartered planes.
The Prince and 200 passengers flew home from Switzerland on an aircraft supplied by Jet2 - complete with cabin crew to replace those on strike.
First class ... BA-chartered Jet2 plane
He enjoyed a fuss-free three-hour flight to Heathrow's Terminal 5 as the weekend plot to bring BA grinding to a halt spectacularly flopped.
The relieved airline saw virtually ALL its staff report for duty at Gatwick - and more than half turn up at Heathrow.
BA chiefs were even able to add flights to the pared-down service they expected to run.
The Unite union was left desperate for a propaganda coup to bolster its three-day walkout by cabin crew, which started on Saturday and continues today. Its biggest hope was to strand Wills in Geneva after his ski holiday with girlfriend Kate Middleton, 28.
A source said of the Prince's flight: "It's a major kick in the teeth for the unions.
"They would have loved to have embarrassed BA by leaving William struggling."
Dispute ... Heathrow pickets
Humiliated Unite, which called the strikes because loss-making BA needs to cut costs, insisted 80 per cent of its 12,000 members joined walkouts which affected an estimated 60,000 passengers.
Union supremo Tony Woodley saluted the "magnificent" support. But today BA expects to run up to three quarters of scheduled flights. Mr Woodley urged BA's board to go behind the back of chief Willie Walsh to negotiate with strikers. A fresh walkout next Saturday is due to last four days.
Unite has poured £11million into Labour's coffers in the past three years - and ministers have refused to back those crossing picket lines.
Last night a BA insider said of the showdown with militants: "The union can bleat all it wants - we're winning."
Prince William flies in on strike-buster BA jet | The Sun |News
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Nutjob quote "As yet, no-one knows what said contract details and whether it's a whole new contract of employment or simply a no-strike agreement. I'm sure details will emerge either later today, or more likely after midday tomorrow (as first interviews I know of start at 11am). Watch this space".
Mrs went on CC strike in 199? at BHX. (albeit for good reasons perhaps compared to the current dispute) Told by BA CC Manager to sign no strike agreement. Nore sure if she did but afterwards she got a letter of apology from BA as they had f***ed up.
Mrs went on CC strike in 199? at BHX. (albeit for good reasons perhaps compared to the current dispute) Told by BA CC Manager to sign no strike agreement. Nore sure if she did but afterwards she got a letter of apology from BA as they had f***ed up.
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This is to 'Abbey Road' from page 1...
I thought I'd quoted.........
How do you come to your conclusion about how senior the crew were on the different trips???
And why more senior=more militant??
I've done 20 years and I'm not striking, nor are friends who have done a similar amount of time..
I thought I'd quoted.........
How do you come to your conclusion about how senior the crew were on the different trips???
And why more senior=more militant??
I've done 20 years and I'm not striking, nor are friends who have done a similar amount of time..