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Old 28th Jan 2010, 14:08
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staff travel is a perk why should ba give a perk to to people hurting the company ? current requirements for cabin crew say you got to live within 45 mins lhr/ gatwick ,france italy usa spain ! all 45 mins lhr ,lgw!
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 14:19
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Jumpseats!

I'll be using this simple post strike formula. If you still have staff travel you can still have a jseat.
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 14:45
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Jumpseats won't be an issue.

Those strikers will be paying full fare, so will be guaranteed to have a lovely expensive seat in the cabin. Either that or they'll be off to hitch-hike to LGW to get the next EJ flight...
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 15:06
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I doubt Miss Malone - or any of the other reps - will be at the picket line.

I sent back my ballot this morning with a NO - next task is to speak to payroll and cancel my subscription.

Rumour is out that BASSA is deliberately sending out ballot papers to members not eligible to vote so that BA can get another court injunction.
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 15:09
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Got my ballot paper this morning could not find the NO option so put a lovely X on the YES box and kissed the baby before posting it.

Expecting a bigger vote than last time!!!
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 15:13
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Rumour is out that BASSA is deliberately sending out ballot papers to members not eligible to vote so that BA can get another court injunction.
Even they couldn't be that stupid. BA could take legal action after the event to demonstrate it was illegal and claim damages.
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 15:14
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You will enjoy all that lovely spare time with your baby when you are out of job - or when working on New Fleet doing SH and LH to scheme - then you won't see your baby that often!
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 15:18
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aww don't worry about me not spending time with baby. Yes, vote it is..
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 15:28
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I'm not worried flying chick

I'm just concerned that I'll be doing your job for up to three months while they recruit and train your permanent replacement.

I'm looking forward to the challenges but I'll miss my inflight rest and first class food.

Just had a thought, if I'm working as temp cc am I entitled to join bassa. If so when? Wonder if that means I'll get to vote as well!

xxxxx

(this post has been smilied in compliance with bassa smilie protocols)
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 15:30
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Yes, vote it is..
Why have you voted yes?
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 15:32
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When is the ballot result announced?
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 15:35
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The ballot closes on 22nd of February - I would expect the result to be announced any day after.
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 15:39
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Amidst the euphoria of various CC being able to vote YES or NO, and hoping personally that some level of common sense will prevail, I couldn't help but notice this post:
Let's please put the safety issue to bed. The CAA mandates the crew complement, individual airlines may choose to exceed the minima for the purposes of customer service... not safety.
It seems to me that many customers have commented here, and elsewhere, about declining standards of service on BA. On the premise that the dire emergencies so often referred to hardly ever happen [I have never, ever seen even a minor one], there are a couple of simple questions I would pose:
  1. Leaving aside emergencies, why are the standards of service to passengers perceived to be falling?
  2. Why is it necessary to over-crew the aircraft beyond the legislative safety requirement if not to provide better service?

Sorry to be awkward, but there is a core issue being lost in all the rhetoric.
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 15:40
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Flying Chick

I'm interested to know too what you hope to achieve by voting 'yes' - or indeed if the court case goes in favour of BASSA and BA have to reemploy 1200 people to get the crewing levels back up. Those 1200 WILL be recruited onto New Fleet. One way or another the savings have to be made or BA ceases to exist. Reduced crewing levels seem like a sensible option to me making savings of arond £125 million, with little impact on most crew. Alternatively you could each sacrifice £8000.

What is your plan and negotiating standpoint when you have you big yes strike mandate?
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 15:41
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Flying Chick

Good on you for voting YES.

I was concerned that they might get a NO vote. I am hoping this strike goes ahead and BA can can sort out the mess the cabin crew have caused them and their customers once and for all.

Perhaps BA can then get back to being the good airline they always were with real cabin crew who take a pride in customer service.

BTW., life on the dole is very hard.

Well done for voting YES.

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Old 28th Jan 2010, 15:54
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Originally Posted by KitKat747
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I look forward to a further edit "for failing to understand the Exam Question". Please explain your thinking. How on Earth does a YES vote conform with your statement?
I am hoping this strike goes ahead and BA can can sort out the mess the cabin crew have caused them and their customers once and for all.

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Old 28th Jan 2010, 15:55
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ok, I am going to have anice cup of tea and kit kat this thread is getting boring..

By voting yes the city will start asking question about exactly who is running this airline and the fact that we are fighting for our future...

One day(probably very soon) it might just be your turn.
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 15:55
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Flying Chick

So you think the city have no idea what's going on, and the threat of financial damage to the company will make the city force WW to back down and reinstate you all on previous manning levels and Ts and Cs.

Oh I see the sense in it all now.

Silly me.

(Note to self: Cut and paste this quote for posterity)
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 15:58
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I sincerely hope some of the most militant members will get the earliest flights on the first day of the strike - it's easy today to say you're going to work - but wait until that day when you have to make that decision.
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Old 28th Jan 2010, 16:00
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By voting yes the city will start asking question about exactly who is running this airline and the fact that we are fighting for our future...
I think they already know - and they think it's wrong that BASSA is running the airline - WW has their support.

Fighting for your future? You are working one down! How can that possibly have anything to do with your future?
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