Emirates - Crew Discussions II
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My advice to all of you getting exited on here.......dont join EK or if you are a cabin crew already...start looking for another job....because they can just drop you at a touch of a button!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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i've already applied for the 380 . you get to work with a smaller fleet so more chance of actually getting to know your collegues but big enough to not see them every day . JFK LHR CDG are great destinations i think
and oh my god picturing that new uniform i'm not so sure any more but the way its fitted at the moment sucks so i'm up for anything.
when do they start operating the bus380 ??
and oh my god picturing that new uniform i'm not so sure any more but the way its fitted at the moment sucks so i'm up for anything.
when do they start operating the bus380 ??
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With the arrival of the 2nd whale, JFK 201 will be daily on 380 as of 01/10.
LHR 001 01/12 daily.
Surely some t/a or near layovers (like CDG), just like they did with the 77L.
LHR 001 01/12 daily.
Surely some t/a or near layovers (like CDG), just like they did with the 77L.
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Hi!
It always amazes me that how much people generally afraid of new things... I'm looking forward to the change!
I'm a G1, working for Emirates for 2 years.
I know: dollar is sucks but still, we pretty much make a good money as accomodation is provided.
I know: too much work. Well, you might want to work for Ryanair where the flight time limitation is 1200 hours a year (note: it changes in April), doing 4-6 sectors a day, having 10-12 stand-by-s a month. You might want to work another internation airline and wait for 3 years to get a long-haul flight. You might want to work for charter company and doing all the same routes... etc. It's your choice.
There are good and bad things about Emirates. If you are a young and healthy person you might want to concentrate on the good ones: lots of destinations and easy life (no bills, beach, sunshine). If you are fed up with living in the desert, you might want to move to another country with 4 seasons.
ABOUT THE 380s:
I'm very excited to fly this new aircraft, I already applied. I don't care about the new uniform, I care about quality, big galleys, good equipment, nice athmoshper with crew. I'm sure the pursers will be able to face this challenge: I don't feel sorry for them. We'll see...
We all know the first destinations. As they are all long and ultralong-haul flights, I expect to have 15-20 days off a month. (The lay-overs might be longer at the beginning, as we won't have enough airplanes.) I would like to spend more time with my boy-friend in Dubai and visit my family and friends in Budapest (Hungary, Europe). Good reason to apply? Well, we'll see...
We still have 6 months to become the first aircraft. Application ends 1st March. I expect most of the G2s, G1s to be upgraded by that time. One 380 requires appr. 150 crew. I expect that the upgrades will be much faster than usual. The new joiners obviously won't have a choice: they will be schedualed and might be upgraded for business class in 6-10 months if it is necessery. We'll see...
The same destinations at the beginning. Yes. After 2 years? I think it will be a privilage to apply for this aircraft type. The people, who don't apply now, will probably be listed for the training on a waiting list. We'll see...
I'm sure we'll do long-hauls mostly in 2009. The aircraft makes money when it is in the air. Later? Yes, you might get 2-4 turn-arounds a month. Just like now. We'll see...
FOR WANNABEES: if you are hired now, you still get the old training. If you join in 3-6 months, they wont't give you a choice. Your luck... I expect the experienced crew to be put on the 380s as they are good SFS-materials.
Well, I've been thinking about this for a long time, so the decision was easy to make. I wanted to share my opinion with you.
We cannot look into the future, just use our common sense and experience to try to figure out what could happen...
See you aboard!
It always amazes me that how much people generally afraid of new things... I'm looking forward to the change!
I'm a G1, working for Emirates for 2 years.
I know: dollar is sucks but still, we pretty much make a good money as accomodation is provided.
I know: too much work. Well, you might want to work for Ryanair where the flight time limitation is 1200 hours a year (note: it changes in April), doing 4-6 sectors a day, having 10-12 stand-by-s a month. You might want to work another internation airline and wait for 3 years to get a long-haul flight. You might want to work for charter company and doing all the same routes... etc. It's your choice.
There are good and bad things about Emirates. If you are a young and healthy person you might want to concentrate on the good ones: lots of destinations and easy life (no bills, beach, sunshine). If you are fed up with living in the desert, you might want to move to another country with 4 seasons.
ABOUT THE 380s:
I'm very excited to fly this new aircraft, I already applied. I don't care about the new uniform, I care about quality, big galleys, good equipment, nice athmoshper with crew. I'm sure the pursers will be able to face this challenge: I don't feel sorry for them. We'll see...
We all know the first destinations. As they are all long and ultralong-haul flights, I expect to have 15-20 days off a month. (The lay-overs might be longer at the beginning, as we won't have enough airplanes.) I would like to spend more time with my boy-friend in Dubai and visit my family and friends in Budapest (Hungary, Europe). Good reason to apply? Well, we'll see...
We still have 6 months to become the first aircraft. Application ends 1st March. I expect most of the G2s, G1s to be upgraded by that time. One 380 requires appr. 150 crew. I expect that the upgrades will be much faster than usual. The new joiners obviously won't have a choice: they will be schedualed and might be upgraded for business class in 6-10 months if it is necessery. We'll see...
The same destinations at the beginning. Yes. After 2 years? I think it will be a privilage to apply for this aircraft type. The people, who don't apply now, will probably be listed for the training on a waiting list. We'll see...
I'm sure we'll do long-hauls mostly in 2009. The aircraft makes money when it is in the air. Later? Yes, you might get 2-4 turn-arounds a month. Just like now. We'll see...
FOR WANNABEES: if you are hired now, you still get the old training. If you join in 3-6 months, they wont't give you a choice. Your luck... I expect the experienced crew to be put on the 380s as they are good SFS-materials.
Well, I've been thinking about this for a long time, so the decision was easy to make. I wanted to share my opinion with you.
We cannot look into the future, just use our common sense and experience to try to figure out what could happen...
See you aboard!
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I'm not "HATING" the fact of being on the A380 for two years, I was just kind of concerned a little bit because I would lile to see variety of trips on my roster. JFK, CDG, LHR, SYD+MEL, plus a few turnarounds, does seem fun, don't get me wrong but what if you get bored of flying to just those destinations? Granted, I won't be able to apply in another 4 years but I'm just thinking right now.
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Ah it's nice to be looking forward to the change!
I just wonder what's gonna change in J class... Still 42 pax.
So, 2 or 4 or 6 engines, 1 or 2 or 3 decks. Maybe is it all about the size, it looks impressive on the stand, and then? Ah yes, looks cool ya " yo guyyyyys i fly the a388 !!!"
There's no real excitment, I'm still trying to understand how it could become a privilege to fly it one day, as the civilian traffic grows mostly in terms of a/c range, so basically everyone will have to fly it. ( Same kind of story with the 345 long time ago..)
Secondly, many crew members find it HARD to cope with ULR duties. Many posts around about ULR royal pain, fatigue, stress after 14 to 16 hours in a pressurized aluminium tube flying at 550kt with a cabin altitude of 6 to 8000ft...
Then regarding the "easy life" down here. It might be fun, for some time, for a young single. But for the MANY others who have been living here for years, with bills, family life, etc, it ain't that great anymore.
A quick look & see, a few cvs sent in many of the big companies in the UAE made me understand that 15.000aed + accomodation +&+&+ is the minimum around for a fresh graduate ( yeah, i'm getting "institutionalized" in the golden jail ).
Find it hard sometimes to feel a "team member" of the group with my more than 50% hourly paid salary, and believe me i work hard.
Anyone knows how come the turnover is so huge at EK? How can they make this hiring/resigning scheme "profitable" instead of capitalizing on their workforce?...
Still many questions...
Anyway, happy and safe flying to everyone !
I just wonder what's gonna change in J class... Still 42 pax.
So, 2 or 4 or 6 engines, 1 or 2 or 3 decks. Maybe is it all about the size, it looks impressive on the stand, and then? Ah yes, looks cool ya " yo guyyyyys i fly the a388 !!!"
There's no real excitment, I'm still trying to understand how it could become a privilege to fly it one day, as the civilian traffic grows mostly in terms of a/c range, so basically everyone will have to fly it. ( Same kind of story with the 345 long time ago..)
Secondly, many crew members find it HARD to cope with ULR duties. Many posts around about ULR royal pain, fatigue, stress after 14 to 16 hours in a pressurized aluminium tube flying at 550kt with a cabin altitude of 6 to 8000ft...
Then regarding the "easy life" down here. It might be fun, for some time, for a young single. But for the MANY others who have been living here for years, with bills, family life, etc, it ain't that great anymore.
A quick look & see, a few cvs sent in many of the big companies in the UAE made me understand that 15.000aed + accomodation +&+&+ is the minimum around for a fresh graduate ( yeah, i'm getting "institutionalized" in the golden jail ).
Find it hard sometimes to feel a "team member" of the group with my more than 50% hourly paid salary, and believe me i work hard.
Anyone knows how come the turnover is so huge at EK? How can they make this hiring/resigning scheme "profitable" instead of capitalizing on their workforce?...
Still many questions...
Anyway, happy and safe flying to everyone !
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Would you recommend Emirates? This is one of the questions on the survey they are circulating right now.
Would I???? Well, I used to.
Now, it depends on your priorities.
If you are less concerned with a pay packet, the abysmal exchange rates and the rampant inflation won't be a problem for you.
If you are less concerned about travel, the 24hr layovers after 14-16 hour flights won't be a problem for you.
If you are less concerned about health, the implications of sleep debt or 24hr aircon won't be a problem for you. (You MAY have a window in your apartment that opens)
If you aren't concerned about job security, the threat of immediate termination, with no representation, or support system won't be a problem for you.
If you aren't concerned about being treated like an adult, the 1am curfew for visitors, the permission letters required for family members to visit, and the condescending training won't be a problem for you.
If you aren't concerned about a professional work environment, then the endemic sexual harassment, seniors abusing their positions of power, or the demagogic methods of leadership used by many won't be a problem for you.
I joined several years ago, when it was a much different place, and there were several positive aspects to the place. It has been painful to watch these dry up, and it has drained much of my normally optimistic outlook to the point where it is no longer a place I can recommend for new crew.
Sorry if this is not what you want to hear, but it's not an uncommon outlook, and goes a long way to explain why so many leave after ever decreasing periods of employment.
Would I???? Well, I used to.
Now, it depends on your priorities.
If you are less concerned with a pay packet, the abysmal exchange rates and the rampant inflation won't be a problem for you.
If you are less concerned about travel, the 24hr layovers after 14-16 hour flights won't be a problem for you.
If you are less concerned about health, the implications of sleep debt or 24hr aircon won't be a problem for you. (You MAY have a window in your apartment that opens)
If you aren't concerned about job security, the threat of immediate termination, with no representation, or support system won't be a problem for you.
If you aren't concerned about being treated like an adult, the 1am curfew for visitors, the permission letters required for family members to visit, and the condescending training won't be a problem for you.
If you aren't concerned about a professional work environment, then the endemic sexual harassment, seniors abusing their positions of power, or the demagogic methods of leadership used by many won't be a problem for you.
I joined several years ago, when it was a much different place, and there were several positive aspects to the place. It has been painful to watch these dry up, and it has drained much of my normally optimistic outlook to the point where it is no longer a place I can recommend for new crew.
Sorry if this is not what you want to hear, but it's not an uncommon outlook, and goes a long way to explain why so many leave after ever decreasing periods of employment.
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Already complaining and barley out of nappies
How funny. You have 3 years until you even think about applying and you have already started bithing moaning and joining in the "Oh it's not fair" debate...
As an ex EK Hotie.. you will be trained on what you are told and the conditions they want you to work under will be exactly what you will do. As far as they are concerned there are plenty of fresh pups like yourself that would be gladly moundled into what they want.
Just a tip.
As an ex EK Hotie.. you will be trained on what you are told and the conditions they want you to work under will be exactly what you will do. As far as they are concerned there are plenty of fresh pups like yourself that would be gladly moundled into what they want.
Just a tip.
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per on the 345 from next month
good to know they finally changed the perth flight ot a 345 with bunk beds,wonder if we will be allowed to use them tho..how's the KG survey going boys & girls filled in your motivational levels yet
filled in your motivational levels yet
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how's the KG survey going boys & girls filled in your motivational levels yet
Hang on a minute, wasn't TD doing the survey?, is KG doing an other one?, Am I missing somethign here? ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
About time the A345 gets to PER
, and surely we'll be able to use the bunks, right? 
filled in your motivational levels yet Hang on a minute, wasn't TD doing the survey?, is KG doing an other one?, Am I missing somethign here? ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
About time the A345 gets to PER
, and surely we'll be able to use the bunks, right?
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Sleep deprivation is indeed a common factor to all longhaul flying but I can't emphasise how close to the mark "gadgetman" is with his comments re: Emirates.
Some of the concerns he lists are either unique to flying with Emirates, or unique to employment with any Middle Eastern carrier.
I'm sorry to say this, but Emirates is not what it was even as recently as 5 years ago.
If you are absolutely desperate to do longhaul and don't really care about the conditions you'll be asked to worked under, Emirates is still an 'ok' choice.
If that's not the case, and you'd like to work in a friendly atmosphere with the chance to fly longhaul in 3 or so years I would stay well away from Emirates.
I know, I flew for them. Much happier since I joined another major airline in Europe; the difference is refreshing. I don't even miss Dubai, though I get rostered to fly to DXB now and then!
Don't get me wrong, this is not an anti-Emirates post. I had a great time there, but then I joined as a graduate with no other airline work experience. If you've already worked for a decent European airline then going to Emirates would be pretty tough....
Sleep deprivation is indeed a common factor to all longhaul flying but I can't emphasise how close to the mark "gadgetman" is with his comments re: Emirates.
Some of the concerns he lists are either unique to flying with Emirates, or unique to employment with any Middle Eastern carrier.
I'm sorry to say this, but Emirates is not what it was even as recently as 5 years ago.
If you are absolutely desperate to do longhaul and don't really care about the conditions you'll be asked to worked under, Emirates is still an 'ok' choice.
If that's not the case, and you'd like to work in a friendly atmosphere with the chance to fly longhaul in 3 or so years I would stay well away from Emirates.
I know, I flew for them. Much happier since I joined another major airline in Europe; the difference is refreshing. I don't even miss Dubai, though I get rostered to fly to DXB now and then!
Don't get me wrong, this is not an anti-Emirates post. I had a great time there, but then I joined as a graduate with no other airline work experience. If you've already worked for a decent European airline then going to Emirates would be pretty tough....
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Which major airline???
I'm just curious because as far as I know, BA is always on strike, Al Italia is close to be bankkrupted, Air France only hires French, Lufthansa's starting salary is not attractive (for me, compare to EK), anyways, I have the disadvantage not to be German... Maybe in Switzerland?
Well, I would be happy to work in my home country... What a pity that the ONLY big airline (Malév) just dismissed 10% of the crew, SkyEurope left the market and Wizz Air (low-cost) only hires 21-year-old girls who are willing to work for 4-500 euro a month.
Oh, and that's the end of the list.
Yes, I would recommend Emirates for people who have no other options.
I'm just curious because as far as I know, BA is always on strike, Al Italia is close to be bankkrupted, Air France only hires French, Lufthansa's starting salary is not attractive (for me, compare to EK), anyways, I have the disadvantage not to be German... Maybe in Switzerland?
Well, I would be happy to work in my home country... What a pity that the ONLY big airline (Malév) just dismissed 10% of the crew, SkyEurope left the market and Wizz Air (low-cost) only hires 21-year-old girls who are willing to work for 4-500 euro a month.
Oh, and that's the end of the list.
Yes, I would recommend Emirates for people who have no other options.
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Yes, I would recommend Emirates for people who have no other options.
as far as I know, BA is always on strike
Emirates has its good and bad sides, as does any large airline.
Hey, there are bad sides to working in Europe: it tends to be an expensive place to live, taxes can be high and weather variable...but I accepted this when I left Emirates and Dubai. My EK colleagues couldn't understand me but I knew perfectly well that I had had enough. Lucky for me I made the right decision.
I don't want to discourage anyone from applying to Emirates. It will probably be a great experience and a good introduction to the world of customer service.
All I would say is do not assume that EK as a company is any better to work for than the alternatives...do a little research, speak to people. You may find it's not for you.
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hey leito, sorry it was the TD survey i was talking about , with regards to the bunks on the 345 for per,im not too sure if we wil be given the OK to use them maybe that wil take another 3 years ,just like the curtains that were supposed to come in a long time ago.Has anyone done the IAH flight would like to get some feedback regarding how the trip works as a daily pattern.
Happy Chicken Or Beefing people.
with regards to the bunks on the 345 for per,im not too sure if we wil be given the OK to use them maybe that wil take another 3 years ,just like the curtains that were supposed to come in a long time ago.Has anyone done the IAH flight would like to get some feedback regarding how the trip works as a daily pattern.Happy Chicken Or Beefing people.