Eastern Australian Airlines
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Eastern Australian Airlines
Hey Guys,
Whats that saying it never rains it pours? Well it really is true after putting in my online application for both REX and Eastern Australian, I received an invite to both interviews for this Friday both at the same time. Obviously I can’t go to both, so could anyone tell me about the working conditions at the two? Are they comparable (ie will I need to toss a coin to decide?) or are there obvious advantages of one over the other. I’m also interested in the general work atmosphere of the too, is anyone here working for them are you guys happy and content?
Had a quick flick through and couldn’t see anything on the topic
Another question diverging a bit now, was wondering if anyone knew of anything in the pipes for Qantaslink to compete with Virgins new Embraers?
Thanks Heaps for any help or ideas!
(and if I’m doing something wrong with this thread tell me lol, or if there is some form of etiquette or something I’ve broken please tell me too!!)
Whats that saying it never rains it pours? Well it really is true after putting in my online application for both REX and Eastern Australian, I received an invite to both interviews for this Friday both at the same time. Obviously I can’t go to both, so could anyone tell me about the working conditions at the two? Are they comparable (ie will I need to toss a coin to decide?) or are there obvious advantages of one over the other. I’m also interested in the general work atmosphere of the too, is anyone here working for them are you guys happy and content?
Had a quick flick through and couldn’t see anything on the topic
Another question diverging a bit now, was wondering if anyone knew of anything in the pipes for Qantaslink to compete with Virgins new Embraers?
Thanks Heaps for any help or ideas!
(and if I’m doing something wrong with this thread tell me lol, or if there is some form of etiquette or something I’ve broken please tell me too!!)
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Hey
You can check out the T&C's for both airlines here
Rex: http://www.faaadomestic.org.au/airli...e=recent&id=11
EAA: http://www.wagenet.gov.au/WageNet/Se...=0&quickview=Y
The morale at EAA is crap and i mean crap at the moment. Our EBA was voted down last year and now management want us to vote on it again and everyone is pi$$ed about it. Its not always like that though, it can be a great place to work.
I'm pretty sure VB will be competing with QantasLink (Sunstate) on the Embraers but Sunnies already have the routes. it will be vb coming onto their flying not the other way around.
Hey.... good luck on Friday what ever you choose.
You can check out the T&C's for both airlines here
Rex: http://www.faaadomestic.org.au/airli...e=recent&id=11
EAA: http://www.wagenet.gov.au/WageNet/Se...=0&quickview=Y
The morale at EAA is crap and i mean crap at the moment. Our EBA was voted down last year and now management want us to vote on it again and everyone is pi$$ed about it. Its not always like that though, it can be a great place to work.
I'm pretty sure VB will be competing with QantasLink (Sunstate) on the Embraers but Sunnies already have the routes. it will be vb coming onto their flying not the other way around.
Hey.... good luck on Friday what ever you choose.
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RE: The two businesses
Hi Smi006,
Yeah, I agree with Regionalguy... Morale is down at the moment due to EBA negotiations and a certain General Manager, Cabin Crew Manager and moronic Team Manager (the puppet of the Cabin Crew Manager) who are convinced that by telling us all how bad we have it due to REX , that we'ill agree to an EBA with less restrictive practices. Good for the company from a productivity perspective, not so good from a lifestyle perspective!
I don't know what to tell you SMI006.... the flying on both is similar. Morale is better at REX at the moment (from what my frends tell me) but then again, like Regionalguy says, sometimes it's better..... I wish I could be more optomistic for you!
Don't believe anything they tell you about 'career progression' at the recruitment day... People don't career progress from QantasLink anymore... they just move on to Jetstar and other carriers!
All the best in your decision making.....
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Yeah, I agree with Regionalguy... Morale is down at the moment due to EBA negotiations and a certain General Manager, Cabin Crew Manager and moronic Team Manager (the puppet of the Cabin Crew Manager) who are convinced that by telling us all how bad we have it due to REX , that we'ill agree to an EBA with less restrictive practices. Good for the company from a productivity perspective, not so good from a lifestyle perspective!
I don't know what to tell you SMI006.... the flying on both is similar. Morale is better at REX at the moment (from what my frends tell me) but then again, like Regionalguy says, sometimes it's better..... I wish I could be more optomistic for you!
Don't believe anything they tell you about 'career progression' at the recruitment day... People don't career progress from QantasLink anymore... they just move on to Jetstar and other carriers!
All the best in your decision making.....
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Interview tips for REX
Hi can anyone help me? I have an interview with REX does anyone have any ideas on what happens in the interview? What is the best way to approach it as I am a first timer. I am very nervous!
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Attend every opportunity you get invited to, as you shouldn't count your chickens before they hatch. Also the more interview experience you get the better your chances. They all tend to use the same format so if you get stuck on the questions with the first airline, the second airline will probably use similiar questions. Also cabin crew recruitment process takes a long time from the asessment day to the job offer so give them all a go.
Also I've heard Qantaslink pays you during groundschool where as Rex doesn't. And that Rex doesn't offer a job untill after you have completed groundschool and a position becomes vacant where as with Qantaslink your guaranteed a fulltime position when the offer is made for groundschool.
Also I've heard Qantaslink pays you during groundschool where as Rex doesn't. And that Rex doesn't offer a job untill after you have completed groundschool and a position becomes vacant where as with Qantaslink your guaranteed a fulltime position when the offer is made for groundschool.
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QantasLink is expanding rapidly, it is part of the Qantas empire and has performed consistently well financially for many years. I know who id rather work for! Good luck with whoever you decide to apply for!
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Hey Guys,
Just thought I’d give you a quick update went along to the eastern interview was a blast had the best day really great group of people. Got through to the panel interview and have been sent out the medical and security forms so where to now? There can’t be too much further to-go surly?? Could be wrong, though. Anyone know what hotel in Sydney the crew stays at for training?
So excited lol fingers crossed
Just thought I’d give you a quick update went along to the eastern interview was a blast had the best day really great group of people. Got through to the panel interview and have been sent out the medical and security forms so where to now? There can’t be too much further to-go surly?? Could be wrong, though. Anyone know what hotel in Sydney the crew stays at for training?
So excited lol fingers crossed
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Can anyone shed any light on when there will be upcoming ground schools and what it's REALLY like working for Eastern? I've already read the EBA so just looking for an insiders perspective.
Thanks.
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Oh dear!
Okay well, i'm just going to say that it is my belief that trainers should have at least 2 years flying experience before they can qualify to become a trainer. It shows in some ways that seniority is not really relevent! Lets just hope that any newbies to EEA feel that they can approach any of the senior FA's if they need advice!
Happy flying guys!
Happy flying guys!
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Re: Trainers in Melbourne
Well well well..... the 'Trainers' debate surfaces again.
What do I think? I think W H A T E V E R!
Why?
Because at the end of the day, if someone is good enough to pass an interview and meet the requirements, then they farkin' get the job! Isn't it that simple?
Jesus, this ageism and snarly remarks within our ranks really has to stop. I was sitting in the Crew Room the other day listening to some moron twattle on about how 'geez they're young... I don't think it's right... we need older people with experience etc". let me tell you something... the younger generation is entering the workforce and as for some of the old ducks out there, get used to it!
So what if they haven't been there for years? At the end of the day our job isn't rocket scince!
To my colleagues in Melbourne - you know who you are.... grow up! Get some sort of grip on life and move on.
Now on to the next distraction... WTF is going on with our EBA?!
What do I think? I think W H A T E V E R!
Why?
Because at the end of the day, if someone is good enough to pass an interview and meet the requirements, then they farkin' get the job! Isn't it that simple?
Jesus, this ageism and snarly remarks within our ranks really has to stop. I was sitting in the Crew Room the other day listening to some moron twattle on about how 'geez they're young... I don't think it's right... we need older people with experience etc". let me tell you something... the younger generation is entering the workforce and as for some of the old ducks out there, get used to it!
So what if they haven't been there for years? At the end of the day our job isn't rocket scince!
To my colleagues in Melbourne - you know who you are.... grow up! Get some sort of grip on life and move on.
Now on to the next distraction... WTF is going on with our EBA?!
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I agree with crash axe.......
Hey MOUSE we only have one senior flight attendant. Seniority only applies to progression, although some of us do believe that we are more superior to others that is only personal beleif.
Im not going to comment properly on the new trainers until ive seen them at work. Although i was surprissed at the decision because they have both been at Eastern less than a year.
Although ive have heard alot of negative about the new trainers it has come mostly from those who didn't apply. Perhaps if you thought you could do a better job you should have applied yourself...
Hey MOUSE we only have one senior flight attendant. Seniority only applies to progression, although some of us do believe that we are more superior to others that is only personal beleif.
Im not going to comment properly on the new trainers until ive seen them at work. Although i was surprissed at the decision because they have both been at Eastern less than a year.
Although ive have heard alot of negative about the new trainers it has come mostly from those who didn't apply. Perhaps if you thought you could do a better job you should have applied yourself...
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qfDash8,
Well said. At the end of the day, their performance will be judged when out on line really - and the only person to judge it is those being trained!
It's a real pity that the most vocal; as you say qfdash8, are the ones that didn't apply. Isn't that they call 'tall poppy syndrome?' How AUSTRALIAN!!
Anyway, with the rate how the Company keeps losing people, length of service really will be a tough call when it comes to interviewing people! People just don't seem to hang around like they used to! It's weird, but then maybe that's a sign of the times.
Ho hum... Hey, has anyone heard the rumours about progression? I've heard it may be happening soon?
Well said. At the end of the day, their performance will be judged when out on line really - and the only person to judge it is those being trained!
It's a real pity that the most vocal; as you say qfdash8, are the ones that didn't apply. Isn't that they call 'tall poppy syndrome?' How AUSTRALIAN!!
Anyway, with the rate how the Company keeps losing people, length of service really will be a tough call when it comes to interviewing people! People just don't seem to hang around like they used to! It's weird, but then maybe that's a sign of the times.
Ho hum... Hey, has anyone heard the rumours about progression? I've heard it may be happening soon?
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Crashaxe and qfdash8, I agree with you both to a point about the trainers' positions but I disagree with some of your statements.
Most of the compaints among Melbourne crew are not about who got the positions, but the fact that the selection process comes down to a single interview. What I've heard most people say is that staff should be here long enough (as mouse78 said, at least 2 years) to prove themselves before they become eligible to apply for a trainer's position.
Personally, I don't agree because this ignores an applicant's previous professional experience. Aviation experience isn't the be all and end all.
Everyone has a right to an opinion. What bothers me is that so many people get worked up about issues (and this isn't the only one), but when asked whether they've discussed their concerns with management, the answer is always "no". If you've got a problem with the way things are done, take it to management.
PS The staff morale is only low if you let office politics get to you ( something I'm trying hard to stay out of. It isn't always easy).
Most of the compaints among Melbourne crew are not about who got the positions, but the fact that the selection process comes down to a single interview. What I've heard most people say is that staff should be here long enough (as mouse78 said, at least 2 years) to prove themselves before they become eligible to apply for a trainer's position.
Personally, I don't agree because this ignores an applicant's previous professional experience. Aviation experience isn't the be all and end all.
Everyone has a right to an opinion. What bothers me is that so many people get worked up about issues (and this isn't the only one), but when asked whether they've discussed their concerns with management, the answer is always "no". If you've got a problem with the way things are done, take it to management.
PS The staff morale is only low if you let office politics get to you ( something I'm trying hard to stay out of. It isn't always easy).
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Mmmm in an indealistic world, perhaps you're right EAAFA... But the reality is this:
Recruitment Policies generally dictate that the only thing you can take into account is the candidate's performance on the day and then any other relevant factors including their operating perfomance to date. If the quality of the interview was not good, then it may have made it somewhat of a 'two horse race'? Who knows. And from my understanding, Qantas' policy is that jobs are advertised and require an interview... so this is no different.
Mmmm your commnts about people whining are interesting... Why is it that people don't take it to Management? Perhaps it's because we never bloody see Management! That's what I reckon....
Recruitment Policies generally dictate that the only thing you can take into account is the candidate's performance on the day and then any other relevant factors including their operating perfomance to date. If the quality of the interview was not good, then it may have made it somewhat of a 'two horse race'? Who knows. And from my understanding, Qantas' policy is that jobs are advertised and require an interview... so this is no different.
Mmmm your commnts about people whining are interesting... Why is it that people don't take it to Management? Perhaps it's because we never bloody see Management! That's what I reckon....
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Had a interview last week and got offered a spot on the next Dash ground school at the end of this month, just a quickie, does anyone know how long till a command with the current flow of crew through the company?
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I don't know what to make of your last post, crashaxe.
My post was about what I've heard people say. I wasn't expressing my personal opinions.
Nevertheless, I'll address some of the points you've made.
1. Just because we follow the rules for internal recruitment as set by Qantas doesn't mean those rules are right. The only way to improve systems is to continually review them. If managers are not aware of how staff feel, no review will ever take place.
2. A crucial part of recruiting externally is checking references. Reviewing an employee's track record could be seen as the equivalent of checking references when recruiting internally. Other companies do it and it is not seen as a discriminatory practice.
How can it be beneficial to our business to promote people to training positions based on a single interview regardless of their history with the company? In theory, the worst flight attendant could perform better than the best flight attendant in an interview, but would the company want the worst flight attendants training new recruits?
For example, did you know that one of the unsuccessful applicants for the trainer's position has won the Excel Award two years in a row? In other words, the company consider him to be one of our best flight attendants, yet he isn't good enough to be a trainer.
3. You don't have to see managers to communicate with them. I'm in Melbourne and have never had any trouble contacting them by phone or email.
FA1, has the opening of a Newcastle base been announced? I haven't heard anything.
My post was about what I've heard people say. I wasn't expressing my personal opinions.
Nevertheless, I'll address some of the points you've made.
1. Just because we follow the rules for internal recruitment as set by Qantas doesn't mean those rules are right. The only way to improve systems is to continually review them. If managers are not aware of how staff feel, no review will ever take place.
2. A crucial part of recruiting externally is checking references. Reviewing an employee's track record could be seen as the equivalent of checking references when recruiting internally. Other companies do it and it is not seen as a discriminatory practice.
How can it be beneficial to our business to promote people to training positions based on a single interview regardless of their history with the company? In theory, the worst flight attendant could perform better than the best flight attendant in an interview, but would the company want the worst flight attendants training new recruits?
For example, did you know that one of the unsuccessful applicants for the trainer's position has won the Excel Award two years in a row? In other words, the company consider him to be one of our best flight attendants, yet he isn't good enough to be a trainer.
3. You don't have to see managers to communicate with them. I'm in Melbourne and have never had any trouble contacting them by phone or email.
FA1, has the opening of a Newcastle base been announced? I haven't heard anything.