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Old 5th Apr 2007, 22:58
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I did my sccm course a long time ago and have since left, so it may have changed. Do you still have to do a mock briefing and be video taped? Maybe worth writing out a brief outline of hour you are going to conduct your briefing.

Also, every flight between now and then, quiz your sccm, ask to do the service fromt he front and to look after the flgith crew. Sounds sinple, but valuable.

The coaching sectors are very good to have. Once agsin, anything you are unsure of, no matter how small, ask your trainer on that day as they cannot help you on your check flight.

I didn't want sccm, but it was the best move I ever made. Good luck!!!
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Old 6th Apr 2007, 19:06
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Hi Off Stand,

Thanks for your reply!
I believe they still do the briefing thing, at least they warned us that we will be filmed. I already wrote out a brief outline to be prepared for my coaching and check flight but thanks for the advice!

Unfortunately I won't do any flying anymore before my course starts so I assume my next flight will be my coaching flight. It all happened a bit unexpected as I was off sick for the past month (due to an operation), then I came back to work, did one day, and now I'm doing my course

Never mind, I'm sure I'll be fine and I'm sure the trainers will be nice and patient with all my questions. It just would have been nice to try out a few Senior bits with some other Seniors around to give me feedback.

Now it's a bit like a jump into cold water...but I can swim so it'll be fine :-)
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Old 7th Apr 2007, 10:31
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I did my course recently and it was really good.

You get video'd doing a PA (sounds so easy, but standing there in front of crew and two trainers as well as a video camera doing an ab lib PA really put the pressure on). You all watch that back together.
You also get filmed doing a briefing, but you watch that back on your own. It's quite funny, I didn't realise I swayed when I'm nervous, lol.

You also have to give all the feedback to the other people on the course, the trainers give you some one on one feedback, but it's up to you to highlight things to each other.

I really enjoyed the course, it was quite relaxed and the trainers were great.

Not sure if it's still at the ramada, but if it is and you're LTN based be prepared for the M1 during rush hour every day.

All in all I'd say it was one of the best training courses I have done.

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Old 7th Apr 2007, 17:44
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Sounds good, ezychic, and thanks for your reply.

Are we allowed to pick the PA? Is it a boxed one or do they just give you subject?
I'm crap at making them up as I go (probably because it's my second language) but I'm fine if I know them really well or if I can read them...
Ah well, I guess I'll survive it but gosh, I don't look forward to hearing my own voice...eerks!

Thanks for the Luton advice but my course will actually be in GVA which I consider a big plus. I've never been to GVA but it must be better than Luton (sorry LTN fans out there!)!
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Old 8th Apr 2007, 00:41
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I'd pick GVA over LTN any day of the week!!!
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Old 9th Apr 2007, 11:33
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Good Luck Dolly

I am sure your course will be just fine.
I belive it is 4 days now not 3 when i did mine.
Just I few things I would say from my point of view.

Firstly with regard to your briefing (which is filmed as you know) practice practice practice ready. Also think of SEP questions in a SCENERIO format whicgh gets the group all involved, and try come up with a scenerio that is not the usual fire, decompression ect. Think of maybe a unplanned emergency landing, gear failure on landing.what will you crew do to manual and initive and then incorporate first aid to fit the scenerio.

Its not a bad course, I expect they still ask you to write out your 10 point drill.
And you will do some scenerios in the sim.

Annyway good luck
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Old 10th Apr 2007, 08:53
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Talking Off Stand

morning off stand.
the oven are in the fwd galley and its a pain in the [email protected]#e tryin to organise the crew food and the pax food.
but at the end of the day i dont mind,as long as i have my pot noodle and nicorette gum!.
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Old 10th Apr 2007, 15:10
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Days off

Hello, I start training next month and as yet have no idea about what days I will be working etc etc. I just wondered if once I start working and get my first months rota, if I can count ahead in the months to work out my days off or does it change each month? It is starting to get to me that I can't make plans beyond May 15th (don't get me wrong, I'm very excited about my job!)... and wondered if I will always have to base plans on a month to month basis!

Hope that makes sense
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Old 10th Apr 2007, 15:26
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Bonjour slide blower!

Still on the gum, eh?? Good lad!! I should imagine juggling crew and pax food in that oven would be a pain, esp on a short sector. Oh well, I am sure Mr Johnson thought it through.
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Old 10th Apr 2007, 18:47
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I am sure Mr Johnson thought it through.
Don't count on that!

If I am doing a double AMS from LGW, or even something not quite so short like GLA, BFS or EDI I am now more or less telling the flight crew when they can eat!

The company bleats on about sandwich wastage costing about 2.76m per year yet I am hardly selling any of the pizza slices. Bacon Bloomers are selling well though.
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Old 10th Apr 2007, 22:27
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Getoutofmygalley, I was joking. I have heard that his roll has gone to his head a wee bit.
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Old 11th Apr 2007, 19:13
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I know you were joking off stand, but Mr LJ's ideas are really pi$$ing me off.

I used to love flying with Lee back in the days when he was LGW based (before he moved to Lalaland and before I became SCCM) - he used to be great fun and his pa's would have pax in stitches.

Now he seems to be coming up with all sorts of ideas to improve inflight sales, but in reality I don't think he has done much for inflight sales at all. The new bar is awful in every way (from the variety of items contained on it to the outrageous prices).

I bet you that in October "evlolution" will have elvolved into a bar that has more product variety and fairer prices. The summer months will be very interesting to see if the average 2.4 children family are willing to pay 5.60 for 4 bottles of water and another 5.60 for 4 (small) tubes of pringles.

And whilst I am having a rant, I would love to know which idiot it was that decided that 15 sandwiches is sufficient for a long flight like RAK from LGW where you can easily sell in excess of 60+ sandwiches!

To quote "Trollied" magazine - "Evolution - Natural progression and change which increases performance and efficiency and ensures survival" - My ar$e!
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Old 13th Apr 2007, 19:15
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Hi guys,

I just got back from GVA and finished my SCCM course.
It went pretty well, wasn't too hard at all and all the nerves were for nothing but mandatory ;-)
Thanks for all the advice and support offered!

I'm silly though and now I'm starting to get seriously worried about my coaching and check flight...although I know that it's one of my few stronger points to actually put learned knowledge into action so I'm trying to calm myself down with that a bit but still.....eek!

However, I'm dead on my feet (we had to get up at 4:30 to catch a flight from GVA to LGW, then took a coach to LTN for the last bits of training and then taxi home for nearly 3 hours...with an appointment waiting at that end...) but I'll let you know how I got on.

For now I'm on four days off (they moved one around for the course) and it's supposed to be beautiful weather so life is good!
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Old 13th Apr 2007, 21:18
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Hey Dolley

Best of luck with the coaching and check flights. What routes have you got for each?

Make sure that you look at your crew on your roster for both days and for goodness sake make sure you have the right people in the right role on each day!

If one of your crew is a really experienced crew member, make sure they are your Number Two - and they can ensure everything runs smooth in the back of the aircraft. If you have a relatively new crew member onboard, make sure they are your Number Three, and emphasise to the Number Two to make sure that they keep an eye on the Three to make sure they stay inline.

Oh - and when I had my check flight, I made the mistake of having a wanabee SCCM as the Number Four. He was a total nightmare and kept trying to run the show, things got so bad that I had to pull him up during boarding on the second sector and at the end of the day the OPM pulled him up as well and told him that his behaviour was completely out of line!!

If there is anything that you are unsure of, make sure that you ask your OPM during your coaching flight (even if you feel silly asking) as the OPM is there to help you. As you know, your OPM is not supposed to answer questions during your check flight, so make sure you cover yourself for any unsure of eventualities. (NB - if something does happen during the check flight that is really unusual and you have never had it happen before, then you can approach the OPM and tell them what has happened, they probably will not give you an outright answer, but they will steer you in the right direction).

Was you in GVA with around 3 or 4 LGW crew by any chance?
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Old 14th Apr 2007, 08:54
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Hi Getoutofmygalley,

Yes, we had 4 LGW nutcases with us. Just joking, I loved them. We were a great group altogether and hopefully stay in touch...the good intentions are there...

Thanks for your advice. My coaching flight is PRG and SXF and my check flight is CDG and NCE...both pretty horrible but there you go.

My crew on both days is great and I know all but one personally and they are all experienced so I don't have to worry about that to much.
They must have changed things slightly as my OPM will fly with me as the number 4 on both days (or so it seems, otherwise I'm one crew member down on both days, I better check in the office.).

My OPM is a bit scary and I was praying to have any of the others but again, there you go....I'm trying to be positive about it -in the line of: if I manage it with this OPM and on those routes that I can manage everything!

I'm not actually that worried about failing (well, maybe a tiny bit as it's always an option, I guess.) but I'm one of those people who not just wants to pass but wants to be good at it, does that make sense?

I haven't been flying for almost a month and a half which doesn't help but I have day 1 and 2 as FA next week so I will ask if I can have a play around on those days. Day 3 is a Stand by so I might have another flight or the time to do some last minute reviews at home...quite happy either way...
I hope having two (or three) flights to play with will calm me down and give my confidence a boost because at least I will know a few things by then and will have had some feedback from experienced seniors.

Thanks for all your advice, I really appreciate it :-)
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Old 14th Apr 2007, 12:01
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Hello again Dolley

I think you were probably right describing the LGW crew as nutcases, with one of the girls who will have been with you! (Mean't in the nicest possible way of course! )

Usually the OPM will be onboard on both flights as a SNY (unless they have changed it from when I did my check flight). When I did my check flight it worked as follows:

Number Two - Sat at rear double crew station outboard and in charge of D2R
Number Three - Sat at rear single crew station and in charge of D2L
Number Four - Sat at rear double crew station inboard - arming D1R only
You - Sat at forward crew station outboard and in charge of D1L
OPM - Sat at forward crew station inboard - disarming D1R only

At LGW the OPM still flies as a SNY, so I am guessing that you will have more crew added to both your coaching and check flights at some point before the duty day arrives.

Whilst you might be thinking that your alloted duties are pretty horrible, try thinking in a positive. The PRG-SXF is sufficient time for you to queston the OPM about everything you want to ask, and get all services completed to standard. The CDG-NCE, whilst the CDG is fairly short, it will pass by quickly before you know it, and then you will have the longer NCE sector when you will hopefully be more relaxed - after all by the time you do the NCE you will have been an SCCM (in theory) for 7 sectors at that point

Make sure though that you plan your briefing questions properly for both days. I did on my coaching flight "emergencies on the ground" (as in attention crew at stations) and I asked each crew member what they would do in the event of hearing that, and followed it up with (for each crew member) what each of the possible outcomes could be depending on what you hear from the flight deck (that was back in the days of 2 SEP + 1 First Aid questions in the briefing). For the check flight I did something simple which I think was the fire drill (non-specific) and then I asked the OPM to tell me the signs that you would get in the cabin if the toilet smoke detector activates.

Do you know how to do everything on the FAP? - make sure your SCCM's next week show you lights, pre-loaded PA's and music if you don't

I am sure you will be fine though, and will pass your check flight with flying colours!
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Old 14th Apr 2007, 20:12
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waiting for refences

Hello guys. I have just finished my training and now waiting to get my references sorted. Any idea about how long will it take? I am a bit worried because I heard that some people did not get the job because of the references after finishing the training
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Old 14th Apr 2007, 20:18
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office day

I was also wondering what is the office day about...
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Old 14th Apr 2007, 21:10
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waiting to get my references sorted. Any idea about how long will it take?
How long it takes is up to you! You need to keep on at your referees to make sure that they complete the necessary paperwork and send it back to the ID unit without delay. The ID unit are there to assist you in getting your ID, but they are not going to constantly be chasing your referees (there are too many ID's being processed for them to do that) so you must make every effort yourself to ensure your ID is issued as soon as possible. And yes it is true that some people have been sacked as a result of references after the training course - but if you have not lied on your application, you don't need to worry about that - just make sure you chase your referees first thing Monday morning - then Tuesday, then Wednesday.......

I was also wondering what is the office day about...
Your office day should have been explained to you on the course. Basically, it is where you will sort out things like:
  • Car Parking
  • Being shown how to sign onto Touch & Go
  • How to check in for flights
  • How to access crew mail (if you don't already know)
  • Witness a real briefing at first hand

And - if you are taking part in it, you will be introduced to the NVQ people.

The office day is a very important introduction to your base, you will meet base management and the CRA's who hold the base together (because if the other bases are anything like LGW the CRA's will be constantly cleaning up after the crew who leave the crew room in such a mess!)
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Old 14th Apr 2007, 21:41
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thank you!

Thank you for your quick answer! Very helpful indeed. I haven't lied with my references but I still am concerned
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