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Lowerlobe 4 President
You have so many wonderful ideas.
Such vision.
Such a propensity for original thought.
A wonderful tactical mind.
So articulate.
We are in awe.
Lowerlobe for president!! (of the NSW Geriatric Society)
Such vision.
Such a propensity for original thought.
A wonderful tactical mind.
So articulate.
We are in awe.
Lowerlobe for president!! (of the NSW Geriatric Society)
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As I said to Twiggs,I could agree with you but then we would both be wrong..
Instead of just ridicule how about some substance from the faaa cheer squad or some new policies or plans instead of Adverts for law firms in our newsletters
Instead of just ridicule how about some substance from the faaa cheer squad or some new policies or plans instead of Adverts for law firms in our newsletters
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there is No doubt that MM will be suitable to the Super board, but NOT whilst he is on the FAAA as an executive.
It looks like he is feathering his nest, if things get really bad with Long Haul Cabin crew conditions then he doesn't have to come back to flying with our "NEW" wages and conditions.
BY nominating himself on the board and receiving a wage from them and also his wage from the FAAA he will have set himself up very nicely!
A position on the board of directors with our Super and also his position with the FAAA will be perfect.
Should he be voted out at the next FAAA election then he has his board position to rely on or vice versa...........
I just wish he would use this spare time to do some flying to really see what its now like.......sh!t 7 years is a hell of a long time
It looks like he is feathering his nest, if things get really bad with Long Haul Cabin crew conditions then he doesn't have to come back to flying with our "NEW" wages and conditions.
BY nominating himself on the board and receiving a wage from them and also his wage from the FAAA he will have set himself up very nicely!
A position on the board of directors with our Super and also his position with the FAAA will be perfect.
Should he be voted out at the next FAAA election then he has his board position to rely on or vice versa...........
I just wish he would use this spare time to do some flying to really see what its now like.......sh!t 7 years is a hell of a long time
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Criticism Cheer Squad
First MM is not going a good job with the FAAA.
He should do more flying
Now there is conflict of interest with super board.
Is he allowed to have a personal life?
Is he allowed to make decisions to allow an exit from flying like every other person?
NO!...according to Cartexchange and Lower(Prefrontal)Lobe.
The guy just cant win.
If he leaves will the aforementioned fill the void?...NO!
They prefer to criticize from the sidelines .....its much safer
He should do more flying
Now there is conflict of interest with super board.
Is he allowed to have a personal life?
Is he allowed to make decisions to allow an exit from flying like every other person?
NO!...according to Cartexchange and Lower(Prefrontal)Lobe.
The guy just cant win.
If he leaves will the aforementioned fill the void?...NO!
They prefer to criticize from the sidelines .....its much safer
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Surfside ,
Our message like you is simple but you don't seem to understand it.
We have no problem with MM going onto the super board but not with his current job.Our EBA has just over one year to go and we need someone who has their mind on that job and not others.If MM wants to go into finance then that is fine but he should resign from the faaa before that happens.
We could argue all day and we will never agree so lets have a bit of humour....
A newsletter from senior company management to all crew….
As you may be aware our esteemed leader, the prince of darkness, the master of the darkside,Darth has told us that every section of the company must now be it’s own cost center .He means that it will not be satisfactory for the Cabin crew department to be just cost neutral but we must generate our own profit.
To that end we are taking some measures that will revolutionise our cost base.
1: Each year we will be offering a VR package for Australian based crew until each of you is gone or paying for your jobs on individual work place agreements only possible with the help of your friendly neighborhood Liberal party member. The main difference is that each VR package will be sponsored by a major company. This year’s package is as you might have heard sponsored by a major aircraft manufacturer…
2: Continuing this theme, all cabin crew must bring back their old company issued cabin bags and have them replaced with your new ones which are sponsored by a major soft drink manufacturer and will of course have their logo on the bags. Crew are not permitted to have any other stickers or signage on their bags that would detract from this advertising revenue source.
3: All uniform jackets will also have advertising on them and we will be announcing the brand name shortly. If you know of any company that is looking for advertising space can you direct them to our new advertising manager located on QCC1 with the bright neon light decorated office formerly known as Bob the builder .
4: After a successful trial on Darth star, we will have more advertising on the overhead lockers and inside safety cards and toilets on all aircraft and passengers will now have a surcharge on their tickets to pay for the purchase and dry cleaning of blankets and pillows as well as a fuel surcharge and other incidentals.
5: Crew will also now have to wear new uniform shoes and you guessed it sponsored by a major sporting shoe manufacturer... (Starts with an N as Twiggs would put it)
6: Crew will also not be permitted to wear their own watches as these will form part of our ongoing advertising revenue source to please Darth.
Crew will also be charged for crew meals and any drinks that are consumed during the flight not to mention wear and tear on company property such as meal carts that are used in the course of your employment.
Another idea we are looking at is a surcharge on the pax ticket to pay for the cabin crew on their flight. We feel that although there will be initial resentment and resistance of these ideas the public will eventually accept them or forget about them.
These and other revenue sources are being formulated in conjunction with the faaa who have started their own generation of revenue from advertising to replace lost income from the crew who take VR.These measures should ensure my job at the very least even if cabin crew are eventually outsourced completely.
Yours insincerely,
Life’s Good
Our message like you is simple but you don't seem to understand it.
We have no problem with MM going onto the super board but not with his current job.Our EBA has just over one year to go and we need someone who has their mind on that job and not others.If MM wants to go into finance then that is fine but he should resign from the faaa before that happens.
We could argue all day and we will never agree so lets have a bit of humour....
A newsletter from senior company management to all crew….
As you may be aware our esteemed leader, the prince of darkness, the master of the darkside,Darth has told us that every section of the company must now be it’s own cost center .He means that it will not be satisfactory for the Cabin crew department to be just cost neutral but we must generate our own profit.
To that end we are taking some measures that will revolutionise our cost base.
1: Each year we will be offering a VR package for Australian based crew until each of you is gone or paying for your jobs on individual work place agreements only possible with the help of your friendly neighborhood Liberal party member. The main difference is that each VR package will be sponsored by a major company. This year’s package is as you might have heard sponsored by a major aircraft manufacturer…
2: Continuing this theme, all cabin crew must bring back their old company issued cabin bags and have them replaced with your new ones which are sponsored by a major soft drink manufacturer and will of course have their logo on the bags. Crew are not permitted to have any other stickers or signage on their bags that would detract from this advertising revenue source.
3: All uniform jackets will also have advertising on them and we will be announcing the brand name shortly. If you know of any company that is looking for advertising space can you direct them to our new advertising manager located on QCC1 with the bright neon light decorated office formerly known as Bob the builder .
4: After a successful trial on Darth star, we will have more advertising on the overhead lockers and inside safety cards and toilets on all aircraft and passengers will now have a surcharge on their tickets to pay for the purchase and dry cleaning of blankets and pillows as well as a fuel surcharge and other incidentals.
5: Crew will also now have to wear new uniform shoes and you guessed it sponsored by a major sporting shoe manufacturer... (Starts with an N as Twiggs would put it)
6: Crew will also not be permitted to wear their own watches as these will form part of our ongoing advertising revenue source to please Darth.
Crew will also be charged for crew meals and any drinks that are consumed during the flight not to mention wear and tear on company property such as meal carts that are used in the course of your employment.
Another idea we are looking at is a surcharge on the pax ticket to pay for the cabin crew on their flight. We feel that although there will be initial resentment and resistance of these ideas the public will eventually accept them or forget about them.
These and other revenue sources are being formulated in conjunction with the faaa who have started their own generation of revenue from advertising to replace lost income from the crew who take VR.These measures should ensure my job at the very least even if cabin crew are eventually outsourced completely.
Yours insincerely,
Life’s Good
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A couple of clarifications
First can i just say that i have really enjoyed a considerable break whilst on my enforced LSL. Having said that it's pleasing to see that nothing changes here.
The position on the Super Board is not a paid position. There is in fact no salary and furthermore there are no "directors fees".
More importantly the Companies representative on the Super Board is our dear old friend, that loveable old bulldug Kevin "you gotta love me" Brown.
Now for those intellectual rodents in here that dont realise it, dear old Kev's Job is to protect the interests of Qantas on the Super Board.
Ian Woods the President of the Pilots Association is the Director for the pilots, perhaps he should give up his role at AIPA too. Because of Ian's involvement we no longer have to pay a super surcharge tax.
Rene Herbert when he was the Director on the Super FUnd was also the head of the Cabin Crew Union at the time too.
The only reason that we have the Super that we do is wholly and totally because of the Union movement you lot on ininformed bozo's.
I would humbly suggest that you take your homophobic prejudices somewhere else. I would suggest that you take your informed rubbish somewhere else. And more important i would suggest that you run for office and offer some sort of viable alternative rather than the bile, and nonsense based on ignorance and envy that you peddle here and at work
fondest regards from One that actually understands the rather larger issues
The position on the Super Board is not a paid position. There is in fact no salary and furthermore there are no "directors fees".
More importantly the Companies representative on the Super Board is our dear old friend, that loveable old bulldug Kevin "you gotta love me" Brown.
Now for those intellectual rodents in here that dont realise it, dear old Kev's Job is to protect the interests of Qantas on the Super Board.
Ian Woods the President of the Pilots Association is the Director for the pilots, perhaps he should give up his role at AIPA too. Because of Ian's involvement we no longer have to pay a super surcharge tax.
Rene Herbert when he was the Director on the Super FUnd was also the head of the Cabin Crew Union at the time too.
The only reason that we have the Super that we do is wholly and totally because of the Union movement you lot on ininformed bozo's.
I would humbly suggest that you take your homophobic prejudices somewhere else. I would suggest that you take your informed rubbish somewhere else. And more important i would suggest that you run for office and offer some sort of viable alternative rather than the bile, and nonsense based on ignorance and envy that you peddle here and at work
fondest regards from One that actually understands the rather larger issues
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let clarify this/
So Pegasus are you stating that there is absolutely no renumeration for sitting on the super board, absolutely zilch. Nothing paid in any way.
Its a totally voluntary poistion.
So Pegasus are you stating that there is absolutely no renumeration for sitting on the super board, absolutely zilch. Nothing paid in any way.
Its a totally voluntary poistion.
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Wow!
How about an apology, Cartex and Prefrontal,now that you have some facts?.
You two, to a large extent, have been responsible for the closure of several Cabin crew threads.
Still you come back with the same uninformed nonsense.
You should be banned down to IP address level.
What a pain you 2 must be to work with!
MM is doing a great job for the FAAA.
His dedication and passion are humbling.
I can only hope that commonsense prevails and he is elected to the super board.
If we had more people like MM representing us we would be in much better shape.
So give the uninformed carping a rest and try to provide some support for someone who is doing a damn fine job!!!!
You two, to a large extent, have been responsible for the closure of several Cabin crew threads.
Still you come back with the same uninformed nonsense.
You should be banned down to IP address level.
What a pain you 2 must be to work with!
MM is doing a great job for the FAAA.
His dedication and passion are humbling.
I can only hope that commonsense prevails and he is elected to the super board.
If we had more people like MM representing us we would be in much better shape.
So give the uninformed carping a rest and try to provide some support for someone who is doing a damn fine job!!!!
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Mm And Super
I'll answer your question cartexchange. Correct, the member -elected positions are purely honourary...they are not paid positions.Furthemore, meetings of the Qantas super board are held about 6 times a year.... not onerous i would have thought.
Some of you FAAA haters can't even get your facts straight. Pity you don't read the Superannuation material that was posted out that makes it clear it is not a paid position for the employee directors as MM would be if he is elected.
But it is not a surprise that those of you who attack MM for trying to defend our super can't even read .
That's why he heads the FAAA, because he can do several things at once , wheras his critics in here are obviously very limited individuals.
As for lowerlobes ridiculous comments about no "wins" by the FAAA, he forgets that EBA7 reversed every failure of EBA6. Very convenient and selective memory indeed.
Some of you FAAA haters can't even get your facts straight. Pity you don't read the Superannuation material that was posted out that makes it clear it is not a paid position for the employee directors as MM would be if he is elected.
But it is not a surprise that those of you who attack MM for trying to defend our super can't even read .
That's why he heads the FAAA, because he can do several things at once , wheras his critics in here are obviously very limited individuals.
As for lowerlobes ridiculous comments about no "wins" by the FAAA, he forgets that EBA7 reversed every failure of EBA6. Very convenient and selective memory indeed.
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i agree with LL, its not personal with the faaa excecs. they now have around 12 month or so before negotiations commence with the new EBA. here are some of the issues need urgent research and planning for the next EBA. compare international wages amongst our major competitors, compare annual flight times between competitors, start negotiating flight duty limitations with casa (l am constantly amazed at some of our thai and kiwis patterns), prepare a pa campaign (if needed),and others. as i said before MM is qualified for the super job,and i would have no objection if he would not be in his current position, but this is not the case. ongoing changes to super annuation laws take many hours of courses, meetings,etc, which would make his job in the faaa a part time one.not good
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surf side, your post is totally out of line and for your information neither one of us has ever been responsible for thread closure, that is usually done by people like you and BA lert.All I did was ask a question and I was interested in an opinion, Eden and Pegasus have answered the questions and so have all the others, your post are the only ones that have vitriol and personal attacks in them.
Eden and Pegasus thanks for your reply, much appreciated.
DO you think that this position on the super board will in no way interfere with MM's duties at the FAAA.
As stated before I do not doubts MM's abilities for this position, I do however see it better that he does a bit of flying as he would be able to get a real idea how people feel about the job and the FAAA.
Surfside in order for you to calm down quickly may I suggest a valium.
Eden and Pegasus thanks for your reply, much appreciated.
DO you think that this position on the super board will in no way interfere with MM's duties at the FAAA.
As stated before I do not doubts MM's abilities for this position, I do however see it better that he does a bit of flying as he would be able to get a real idea how people feel about the job and the FAAA.
Surfside in order for you to calm down quickly may I suggest a valium.
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To Pegasus747,Guardian et al....
To help you guys with your busy work schedule and because just about all of your responses are the same I decided to post a typical faaa response to criticism.
This way the faaa can spend more time on important matters although no one is quite sure what they are.
Here goes…
We at the FAAA are fantastic and doing a great job.
We at the FAAA know what we are doing and you have nothing to worry about, in fact we are so good at what we do that we are all applying for other jobs to keep ourselves busy.
Those who criticise us know absolutely nothing and must be former FAAA officials; we just did not know that there were so many of you.
You can have complete confidence in our dedication, committment and ability to look after our …sorry your needs and did I mention that we are dedicated and should be committed.
We do not appreciate comments about us from those that are obviously homogenized, they are just cowardly.
Those of you that post here with nick names are cowardly and not honest because you have not told us your real names and you know less than nothing and tell fairytales.
We only post under our real names ,my real and full name is Pegasus747 (My parents read too many fairytales and had no sense of humour) ,it even says so on my shirt and Steve’s is Guardian1, I’m not sure who Andy is .It all depends who is in the office on the day and sometimes we get confused.
We at the FAAA have the company scared and on the run although we are not sure exactly why.
We at the FAAA are fantastic and know everything and should be re elected because we should be and because we are fantastic and very humble not to mention modest.
Ok guys thats my one ,Guardian or Eden your turn next if someone is cowardly enough to respond to my post
This way the faaa can spend more time on important matters although no one is quite sure what they are.
Here goes…
We at the FAAA are fantastic and doing a great job.
We at the FAAA know what we are doing and you have nothing to worry about, in fact we are so good at what we do that we are all applying for other jobs to keep ourselves busy.
Those who criticise us know absolutely nothing and must be former FAAA officials; we just did not know that there were so many of you.
You can have complete confidence in our dedication, committment and ability to look after our …sorry your needs and did I mention that we are dedicated and should be committed.
We do not appreciate comments about us from those that are obviously homogenized, they are just cowardly.
Those of you that post here with nick names are cowardly and not honest because you have not told us your real names and you know less than nothing and tell fairytales.
We only post under our real names ,my real and full name is Pegasus747 (My parents read too many fairytales and had no sense of humour) ,it even says so on my shirt and Steve’s is Guardian1, I’m not sure who Andy is .It all depends who is in the office on the day and sometimes we get confused.
We at the FAAA have the company scared and on the run although we are not sure exactly why.
We at the FAAA are fantastic and know everything and should be re elected because we should be and because we are fantastic and very humble not to mention modest.
Ok guys thats my one ,Guardian or Eden your turn next if someone is cowardly enough to respond to my post
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This thread is for QF discussion ..not personal vendettas.
The guys do a great job.
Legislation makes it difficult for any Union or Association to be truly effective.
One can only hope that a change of Government occurs next year.
Dixon would get a better result if he embraced his employees with his vision rather than turning them into the enemy.
Richard Branson does a magnificent job of managing his people.
Morale is excellent.
He is approachable.
Perhaps he should make a bid for QF if ever the QF Sale Act is repealed.
This thread is for QF discussion ..not personal vendettas.
The guys do a great job.
Legislation makes it difficult for any Union or Association to be truly effective.
One can only hope that a change of Government occurs next year.
Dixon would get a better result if he embraced his employees with his vision rather than turning them into the enemy.
Richard Branson does a magnificent job of managing his people.
Morale is excellent.
He is approachable.
Perhaps he should make a bid for QF if ever the QF Sale Act is repealed.
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cartexchange's comments
Firstly, i don't think surfside is the one who needs to calm down.
Several of you, continually attack the FAAA and mijatov, reed and smedley in particular. You do it on spurious and ill informed grounds.... but the real issue is you do it deliberately and with malice. It's a no brainer that some of you are probably former FAAA people who were turfed out for incompetence.
In relation to your comments cartexchange.... which are more measured and considered..... the answers are these i think:
1) fundamentally you miss a point about super...... it is a basic and hugely important component of conditions of employment and future ability to live properly. I and most people would absolutely think it is right and highly desirable that the head of our union (MM) would want to protect our super arrangements. THIS IS PART OF MM'S DUTIES!!
2) Comments about MM flying are just plain silly and underscore a complete lack of understanding of the complexity of running a modern and effective union. Every day, serious issues come up in the dealings with QF and the FAAA and the head of the FAAA must be there to make snap decisions, to attend important meetings and negotiations with QF, with Australian Airlines and all the other meetings that occur with other bodies ranging from the ACTU, OTHER UNIONS AND OTHER OUTSIDE ORGANISATIONS.
Imagine, MM saying he's off on a 10 day trip.... see ya later ... and all decision making in the FAAA comes to a halt and the business of defending members interests comes to a standstill. Very good state of affairs that would be. And then when he comes back from that 10 day trip...he would have to have a rest like other cabin crew..so further gridlock in the FAAA.
Then people would quite rightly be screaming.
In addition to those considerations above, the FAAA is a multi million dollar concern... it has staff etc which need to be managed and administered too.
I t is easy to sit from the sideline and criticise and offer silly suggestions when you don't actually have a clue about the matters that you comment on.
MM takes his position very seriously, as those that know him only too rightly know. He heads the FAAA at the most critical time in it's history... and he is totally committed to protecting members interests in all fields whether industrial or conditions including super.
Finally, the suggestion that somehow MM needs to fly to understand the issues that matter to crew.....even if it was possible in light of the consideraions i have outlined above... is naive and silly.
My understanding is that MM flew up to his election as head of the FAAA in 2004. He heads a Divisional Council of 12 others who fly continually, he has contact with crew on a daily basis both face to face, by phone, by email and by letter. He knows precisely what the issues are, probably better than anyone else because he is privy to information that cannot be made public at times.
So i would reject the notion that MM should fly whilst he heads the FAAA because that would hurt the interests of crew and i further reject the notion that because he doesn't fly that this somehow means he is out of touch. The fact that MM can get 88% of members to support an EBA and 71% to support the JFK dispensation illustrates he is very much in touch. No other union gets these sorts of huge support levels for their initiatives.
Finally, i speak with a bit of authority on these matters because i know nearly all the FAAA officials and am very familiar with the way the FAAA operates and most of the issues too.
It is sad that a person like MM and some of the others on the FAAA who are in my view the best reps we have ever had. are subjected to abuse and nonsense by some in here. It would be fair enough if those that attack them actually had any knowledge about the issues or had any talent themselves.
Several of you, continually attack the FAAA and mijatov, reed and smedley in particular. You do it on spurious and ill informed grounds.... but the real issue is you do it deliberately and with malice. It's a no brainer that some of you are probably former FAAA people who were turfed out for incompetence.
In relation to your comments cartexchange.... which are more measured and considered..... the answers are these i think:
1) fundamentally you miss a point about super...... it is a basic and hugely important component of conditions of employment and future ability to live properly. I and most people would absolutely think it is right and highly desirable that the head of our union (MM) would want to protect our super arrangements. THIS IS PART OF MM'S DUTIES!!
2) Comments about MM flying are just plain silly and underscore a complete lack of understanding of the complexity of running a modern and effective union. Every day, serious issues come up in the dealings with QF and the FAAA and the head of the FAAA must be there to make snap decisions, to attend important meetings and negotiations with QF, with Australian Airlines and all the other meetings that occur with other bodies ranging from the ACTU, OTHER UNIONS AND OTHER OUTSIDE ORGANISATIONS.
Imagine, MM saying he's off on a 10 day trip.... see ya later ... and all decision making in the FAAA comes to a halt and the business of defending members interests comes to a standstill. Very good state of affairs that would be. And then when he comes back from that 10 day trip...he would have to have a rest like other cabin crew..so further gridlock in the FAAA.
Then people would quite rightly be screaming.
In addition to those considerations above, the FAAA is a multi million dollar concern... it has staff etc which need to be managed and administered too.
I t is easy to sit from the sideline and criticise and offer silly suggestions when you don't actually have a clue about the matters that you comment on.
MM takes his position very seriously, as those that know him only too rightly know. He heads the FAAA at the most critical time in it's history... and he is totally committed to protecting members interests in all fields whether industrial or conditions including super.
Finally, the suggestion that somehow MM needs to fly to understand the issues that matter to crew.....even if it was possible in light of the consideraions i have outlined above... is naive and silly.
My understanding is that MM flew up to his election as head of the FAAA in 2004. He heads a Divisional Council of 12 others who fly continually, he has contact with crew on a daily basis both face to face, by phone, by email and by letter. He knows precisely what the issues are, probably better than anyone else because he is privy to information that cannot be made public at times.
So i would reject the notion that MM should fly whilst he heads the FAAA because that would hurt the interests of crew and i further reject the notion that because he doesn't fly that this somehow means he is out of touch. The fact that MM can get 88% of members to support an EBA and 71% to support the JFK dispensation illustrates he is very much in touch. No other union gets these sorts of huge support levels for their initiatives.
Finally, i speak with a bit of authority on these matters because i know nearly all the FAAA officials and am very familiar with the way the FAAA operates and most of the issues too.
It is sad that a person like MM and some of the others on the FAAA who are in my view the best reps we have ever had. are subjected to abuse and nonsense by some in here. It would be fair enough if those that attack them actually had any knowledge about the issues or had any talent themselves.
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Well said Guardian.
I have spoken to a few of my friends the last 2 days. They thought it was a good idea for MM to stand for the super vacancy and will vote for him hands down. 2 are short haul and they will as well as they consider MM and the LH FAAA are very effective.
I have spoken to a few of my friends the last 2 days. They thought it was a good idea for MM to stand for the super vacancy and will vote for him hands down. 2 are short haul and they will as well as they consider MM and the LH FAAA are very effective.
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CSS stood down in NRT?
Anyone else got solid info on this one?
This supposedly happened at the hotel in NRT.
A CSS was found with a biscuit from the aircraft.
If it is true, why are people still taking stuff from the aircraft?
There have been so many warnings.
This supposedly happened at the hotel in NRT.
A CSS was found with a biscuit from the aircraft.
If it is true, why are people still taking stuff from the aircraft?
There have been so many warnings.
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Aircraft Stores NRT
Crew ex MEL l(but Syd Based) arrived at the hotel in NRT.
Instead of checking in downstairs they were asked to do so on the second floor.
Here they were subjected to a search by company security personnel.
The Supervisor was found to have a chocolate (company stores)in his posession.
He has been stood down pending further investigation.
WARNING:
1. Before you leave the aircraft check your pockets.Ensure that you have no panamax,chocolates,biscuits,Unicef envelopes jelly beans.This is stuff that we all carry during the sector to offer pax and their kids.
2.Do NO take milk, water,teabags or anything from your crew tray.These are all considered company stores.
If you are found with anything for which you do not have a receipt you can be subjected to disciplinary action.
This can include dismissal.
You work for a company that uses fear and intimidation to manage.
Do not give them an opportunity to manage you out of the company
Instead of checking in downstairs they were asked to do so on the second floor.
Here they were subjected to a search by company security personnel.
The Supervisor was found to have a chocolate (company stores)in his posession.
He has been stood down pending further investigation.
WARNING:
1. Before you leave the aircraft check your pockets.Ensure that you have no panamax,chocolates,biscuits,Unicef envelopes jelly beans.This is stuff that we all carry during the sector to offer pax and their kids.
2.Do NO take milk, water,teabags or anything from your crew tray.These are all considered company stores.
If you are found with anything for which you do not have a receipt you can be subjected to disciplinary action.
This can include dismissal.
You work for a company that uses fear and intimidation to manage.
Do not give them an opportunity to manage you out of the company
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those J/C chocolate biscuits
yes it is true, it seems the message has not gotten through to some crew. its not that the security guys want to make an excample out of little things like a biscuit, but they have to follow the follow their rules. and they are very simple. anything not on your crew tray, DON'T TOUCH!!
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My point is and I realise it is difficult for you to understand theses things that although I support the union and collective bargaining it is the current elected officials that I believe are acting like a bunch of old women when it comes to dealing with the company and no that does not make me homophobic.
PS. stop sending me PM's, I'm not interested, no means no!
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ssshhhhhh twigs
shhhhhhh ssshhhhhhh
'our illustrious leaders at the FAAA bunker don't want to be sidetracked at the moment they are too busy conducting a propaganda war with the latest super board elections.
anyway there must be more than a chocolate biscuit involved.
Don't call the FAAA though! they are very busy, plus with the amount of chocolate biscuits that are consumed by them you think they would have some sympathy for the NRT guy.
shhhhhhh ssshhhhhhh
'our illustrious leaders at the FAAA bunker don't want to be sidetracked at the moment they are too busy conducting a propaganda war with the latest super board elections.
anyway there must be more than a chocolate biscuit involved.
Don't call the FAAA though! they are very busy, plus with the amount of chocolate biscuits that are consumed by them you think they would have some sympathy for the NRT guy.