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MAM Training 23 June 06
Hi everyone,
I have just discovered this site and it's been great reading all the advice and opinions, thanks to all.
I am now at the end of the process for MAM, having done my medical 2 months ago and refs were checked early last month. Now, I sit waiting, I was told 2 weeks ago, IF I was successful, that there was a class in June (date was yet to be confirmed at the time).
So, does anyone know what the deal is with the class 23 June? I know of 2 people who are on the course - both are language speakers. Is it only language speakers in Sydney being hired?
I don't even know if I am successful yet, there are alot of us in the same boat I know. If anyone has any new info to pass on that would be great!
Butterfield8 - I know exactly what you are saying, I ask myself the same question all the time! I was one of the original Adecco AKL Based and the way I see it, things can't be any worse than the conditions we endured - not to mention the treatment we received from the SYD Based crew! So I'll stay positive about this, but I really do understand your point.
I have just discovered this site and it's been great reading all the advice and opinions, thanks to all.
I am now at the end of the process for MAM, having done my medical 2 months ago and refs were checked early last month. Now, I sit waiting, I was told 2 weeks ago, IF I was successful, that there was a class in June (date was yet to be confirmed at the time).
So, does anyone know what the deal is with the class 23 June? I know of 2 people who are on the course - both are language speakers. Is it only language speakers in Sydney being hired?
I don't even know if I am successful yet, there are alot of us in the same boat I know. If anyone has any new info to pass on that would be great!
Butterfield8 - I know exactly what you are saying, I ask myself the same question all the time! I was one of the original Adecco AKL Based and the way I see it, things can't be any worse than the conditions we endured - not to mention the treatment we received from the SYD Based crew! So I'll stay positive about this, but I really do understand your point.
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Well you would think so, but NO! They havn't called me????
I'm just dumbfounded..They did say they would call me as soon as they got confirmation of the next course date, but no phone call as yet 
Honestly, It doesn't surprise me though..They are renound for putting people through this process and you just never know what they are up too.. It would just be nice for them to send perhaps a courtesy email to everyone who has compeleted the whole process and waiting for some knowledge on the status of their applications..But No, they can't do that
I'm just dumbfounded..They did say they would call me as soon as they got confirmation of the next course date, but no phone call as yet Honestly, It doesn't surprise me though..They are renound for putting people through this process and you just never know what they are up too.. It would just be nice for them to send perhaps a courtesy email to everyone who has compeleted the whole process and waiting for some knowledge on the status of their applications..But No, they can't do that
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I'm sure you will be fine, it seems the right hand is at a loss to what the left hand is doing at times. I have emailed them now, so will see what kind of response I get. They have been really good in responding to me in the past (I think that is due to the fact they "misplaced" my file previously and they feel sorry for me...haha).
I'll let you know what response I get and keep your chin up, I'm sure they will call you anytime now.
I'll let you know what response I get and keep your chin up, I'm sure they will call you anytime now.
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Thank you
Thank you, I really hope that they don't let us down...
Good luck and let me know if you get a response to your email..What did you actually email them about?
Thank you
Thank you, I really hope that they don't let us down...Good luck and let me know if you get a response to your email..What did you actually email them about?
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Ok, just got a call from them. My file is still in review.... I wonder if that is a standard response?
She wouldn't confirm weather I had a chance for the June class, but did go onto to say they are still in the process of filling the class.
Let us know if/when you hear. Keeping my fingers crossed for us both!
She wouldn't confirm weather I had a chance for the June class, but did go onto to say they are still in the process of filling the class.
Let us know if/when you hear. Keeping my fingers crossed for us both!
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Hey guys, I strongly suggest that if anyone is trying to decide between MAm and another opportunity to think really really carefully.... I have... do the benefits outweight the cons?? What are ESSENTIALS for you, and what are 'live withs'??
I know each person is different and there will be some to whom the whole 20-day contract C thing is suited, others though (who want t ostudy or do something else etc) would be wise to sit down and list the pros and cons of each...
I was really excited about the opportunity with MAM at first but now I'm not so sure I'd be jumping to take it... as much as I want to go o/s, I'm not going to accept really crappy conditions for it - or undermine anyone elses!!!
Just my opinion....
I know each person is different and there will be some to whom the whole 20-day contract C thing is suited, others though (who want t ostudy or do something else etc) would be wise to sit down and list the pros and cons of each...
I was really excited about the opportunity with MAM at first but now I'm not so sure I'd be jumping to take it... as much as I want to go o/s, I'm not going to accept really crappy conditions for it - or undermine anyone elses!!!
Just my opinion....
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Hi SkySista,
I couldn't agree with you more, the contract and the conditions that go with it arn't for everyone. For me, they suit me just fine for the time being, and the way I see things, if my priorities change - well, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
But as already mentioned throughout this thread, people really need to think seriously before they accept a position with MAM. By collating as much information as possible, it looks like it will really work for what I want out of it and so I will accept an offer (if I'm lucky to get one) and accept the conditions that go with it.
All I can say to you is get as much info as possible, but be very clear where possible the difference between fact and personal opinion, and go from there. You'll make the right decision and anything you decide has to be right for you. Good Luck!
I couldn't agree with you more, the contract and the conditions that go with it arn't for everyone. For me, they suit me just fine for the time being, and the way I see things, if my priorities change - well, I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.
But as already mentioned throughout this thread, people really need to think seriously before they accept a position with MAM. By collating as much information as possible, it looks like it will really work for what I want out of it and so I will accept an offer (if I'm lucky to get one) and accept the conditions that go with it.
All I can say to you is get as much info as possible, but be very clear where possible the difference between fact and personal opinion, and go from there. You'll make the right decision and anything you decide has to be right for you. Good Luck!
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I have also had my medical in the last 2 weeks and waiting...
I dont think much will happen for any of us in the short term as the Airline industry is currently in its lowest season and in order to have us in a training school it needs to be followed up by work straight away....
I am tipping training schools will not be happening much to late Aug early Sep when the industry starts to get back to its peak giving the chance to casuals to get up and running....
Heard from someone already working for MAM...have done in past.
No use training new recruits until they are fully operational...
Peace man..
I dont think much will happen for any of us in the short term as the Airline industry is currently in its lowest season and in order to have us in a training school it needs to be followed up by work straight away....
I am tipping training schools will not be happening much to late Aug early Sep when the industry starts to get back to its peak giving the chance to casuals to get up and running....
Heard from someone already working for MAM...have done in past.
No use training new recruits until they are fully operational...
Peace man..
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hi guys, I am still waiting had my medical 1 week ago now. I am wondering if they are going to need more casuals as I have heard a rumor that they don't need as many casuals as they anticipated because of operational requirements. I was wondering if anyone currently working for mam could tell me if they are needing a whole lot of people? I have also heard that MAM are going through a huge recruitment drive and are needing heaps of people. I have been hearing a few different things so I'm not sure what to believe. Andie, I have been reading your responses, they are very informative, thanks for that. I was also wondering if during training do you train with people from different bases or just people from the same base as you? Also how many people can they have per training class? Or per school? I would greatly appreciate it if anyone could answer my questions, Thankyou.
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Got a 'missed call' this morning, could have been them, but probably not...
You'd think they'd know by now if they want us or not... or at least tell us if we're in the group that will go 'on hold' for 6/12/18 months...
Oh well. It'll be their loss when someone else gives me a job offer first!!!
You'd think they'd know by now if they want us or not... or at least tell us if we're in the group that will go 'on hold' for 6/12/18 months...
Oh well. It'll be their loss when someone else gives me a job offer first!!!
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Hi First Class... 1 week is not very long compared to some who have had to wait many months.
I work in the industry and speak to q/f flighties all the time....
the only school coming up far as I know is the one next week.
Its currently the lowest season of the year and in order to train new recruits they need to have work for them straight away...not so at the moment.
A lot of my work mates who are full time perm with QF are not flying at the moment because of too many staff on the planes so they are sitting at home just earning the base....
I think we will hear something sooner than later...
But I get the feeling most of us will end up on a list as the ft/s go p/t and the true impact of our need from the short haul EBA starts impact in our favour.
It will probably be next please from that list for most of us ... that is already starting to happen...I have been told by most of my crew pals we have to be patient as it is all a question of timing and the timing for us from there point of view is currently not all that urgent...
The process is being done for QF needs long term...not short term.
Good luck!
I work in the industry and speak to q/f flighties all the time....
the only school coming up far as I know is the one next week.
Its currently the lowest season of the year and in order to train new recruits they need to have work for them straight away...not so at the moment.
A lot of my work mates who are full time perm with QF are not flying at the moment because of too many staff on the planes so they are sitting at home just earning the base....
I think we will hear something sooner than later...
But I get the feeling most of us will end up on a list as the ft/s go p/t and the true impact of our need from the short haul EBA starts impact in our favour.
It will probably be next please from that list for most of us ... that is already starting to happen...I have been told by most of my crew pals we have to be patient as it is all a question of timing and the timing for us from there point of view is currently not all that urgent...
The process is being done for QF needs long term...not short term.
Good luck!
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Is there an echo in here???
I think FirstClass has a very good reason to be disheartened. FirstClass has already been offered a start date back in May, but was unable to attend. Then to be told "We will be in touch to advise of a start date in June", only to hear there is a class going ahead, but no call!
We are all aware of what crew are saying, we all have flying friends, we are all aware it's a long term thing, we have been told I don't know how many times about this being a quiet time, but this forum is here for us to have a vent every now and again, is it not?
I think FirstClass has a very good reason to be disheartened. FirstClass has already been offered a start date back in May, but was unable to attend. Then to be told "We will be in touch to advise of a start date in June", only to hear there is a class going ahead, but no call!
We are all aware of what crew are saying, we all have flying friends, we are all aware it's a long term thing, we have been told I don't know how many times about this being a quiet time, but this forum is here for us to have a vent every now and again, is it not?
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Thats the airline business...always has always will be..
As difficult as it may be, dont allow yourself to be broken by something that has never been any different or you have no control over.In the end you only hurt yourself...
Get on with your life guys for your own sake and remember he who expects nothing is never disappointed...
I know its easier said than done guys but quite simply if you are not working get out and get another job and stop thinking about it...
As difficult as it may be, dont allow yourself to be broken by something that has never been any different or you have no control over.In the end you only hurt yourself...
Get on with your life guys for your own sake and remember he who expects nothing is never disappointed...
I know its easier said than done guys but quite simply if you are not working get out and get another job and stop thinking about it...
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yes flocker u are correct.. I have been a casual at Qantas now over 2 years and never has it been so quiet...its actually depressing . I dont have a second job and nor do i want to do anything else - its so ironic u finally find and get what u wanna do with ur career - but its not quite how u want it.. I love my JOB so much and its great however it does get to you when its like this...Its very disheartning when all u ant to do is work in the job u love with security and benefits and the abilty to get a home loan....like everybody else there.....THanks John Howard Love u like a coldsore......