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argh this '20 days' thing is doing my head in!! Pity we can't say we'd do like, between 15-20 days per month guaranteed!!! 
Coz it's just... I don't want to be FORCEd to do them... though in most cases i would probably be able to do it happily if they asked. Argh!!! Ok enough ranting from me!!! I'll just think of the flying, and getting somewhere that isn't NZ!!!! 
Coz it's just... I don't want to be FORCEd to do them... though in most cases i would probably be able to do it happily if they asked. Argh!!! Ok enough ranting from me!!! I'll just think of the flying, and getting somewhere that isn't NZ!!!!
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Those posting here who are concerned about the rampant casualisation of our workforce would be well advised to educate themselves about the political processes in the is country.
Casualisation is a result of ten years of conservative government.
It won't stop until they are removed from government.
Casualisation is a result of ten years of conservative government.
It won't stop until they are removed from government.
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Ah, but is it actually "casual" work that's the product of this regime or rather the conditions under which it is structured????
Let's face it casual work has been around since Moses came down from the mountain and is a wise choice for any business to employ - it can be a win win situation for both employer and employee. It's when it the conditions become convoluted that it begins to push the boundary's .
Cabin crew have been screaming to go Part time/Casual for years - providing that all the perks were still in place. We see ourselves in an environment (politically/economically? driven) where the choice of positions are becoming quite limited.
So......it's horses for courses isn't it. Be under no illusions of any kind when entering into a casual contract. If your passion is to fly and immerse yourself in an exciting working culture like no other, and give the best godamn customer service along the way ....then fly, be a happy casual.
( N.B. QF's PBS is a luxury when it comes to rostering - Many airlines still hand out blocks to their full time crew with no provision for request)
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Let's face it casual work has been around since Moses came down from the mountain and is a wise choice for any business to employ - it can be a win win situation for both employer and employee. It's when it the conditions become convoluted that it begins to push the boundary's .
Cabin crew have been screaming to go Part time/Casual for years - providing that all the perks were still in place. We see ourselves in an environment (politically/economically? driven) where the choice of positions are becoming quite limited.
So......it's horses for courses isn't it. Be under no illusions of any kind when entering into a casual contract. If your passion is to fly and immerse yourself in an exciting working culture like no other, and give the best godamn customer service along the way ....then fly, be a happy casual.
( N.B. QF's PBS is a luxury when it comes to rostering - Many airlines still hand out blocks to their full time crew with no provision for request)
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I wonder how many of our MAM casuals are "screaming for" the SECURITY that is afforded by a full time job?
You know the type?
The ones that might what to approach a financial institution to borrow money to buy a car or {heaven forbid} a house.
Casualisation has been "spun" by business as a need for flexability in the workforce.
It is "used" by business to avoid the costs of employing full time.
A THIRD of Qantas's shorthaul crew live "hand to mouth" under these arrangements. Full time positions are no longer available.
A change in federal governement WILL see this trend curtailed.........
You know the type?
The ones that might what to approach a financial institution to borrow money to buy a car or {heaven forbid} a house.
Casualisation has been "spun" by business as a need for flexability in the workforce.
It is "used" by business to avoid the costs of employing full time.
A THIRD of Qantas's shorthaul crew live "hand to mouth" under these arrangements. Full time positions are no longer available.
A change in federal governement WILL see this trend curtailed.........
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MAM Interviews
Good luck to everyone going for MAM interviews. I was on an 11month contract form June 2004 to May 2005- QF Long Haul. After the contract ended we were all placed on a short list for 6 months. After the first 6 months they extended it for another 6, which ends in April this year. I will also be going to the MAM recruitment day this weekend. I'm just not sure whether or not I will have to go through the whole interview process again?? It just makes no sense when less than a year ago I was flying long haul with QF and now I have to go through all that again? Can anyone answer my question? Should I contact MAM and ask them?
Thanks
Thanks
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bebek-
i was initially interview for the same 11 month contract but it never eventuated, and i was placed on the shortlist and then it was extended too. i recently received a call and was informed that i would most likely not have to interview again but i may have to complete another medical and ASIC check if they have lapsed. i dont see why you would have to interview again if i dont?
i was initially interview for the same 11 month contract but it never eventuated, and i was placed on the shortlist and then it was extended too. i recently received a call and was informed that i would most likely not have to interview again but i may have to complete another medical and ASIC check if they have lapsed. i dont see why you would have to interview again if i dont?
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Jesski. Thanks I know..After I read your post I was amazed that I hadn't recieved any phone call from QF. None of my other friends who I flew with, who are also on the shortlist have also not recieved calls from Qantas about MAM either... I think I will try and get in contact with MAM during the week and explain my situation and see what they say. Hopefully I wont have to go through the whole process again! It's so stupid!
Before our contract at QF ended, QF had assured us that they would try and and help us as much as they could by finding us other jobs within the Qantas Group.. Yeah..they really helped alright! NOT!! I mean, we have had to go through this whole MAM thing on our own. They did nothing to help us! We had to apply ourselves. It's so dissappointing and disheartening..and yet we still want to fly with them..
Before our contract at QF ended, QF had assured us that they would try and and help us as much as they could by finding us other jobs within the Qantas Group.. Yeah..they really helped alright! NOT!! I mean, we have had to go through this whole MAM thing on our own. They did nothing to help us! We had to apply ourselves. It's so dissappointing and disheartening..and yet we still want to fly with them..
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yeah you can transfer. i know a couple of people who have transferred from Syd to Mel since starting. I guess how long it takes is dependant on operational requirements, but yes it is possible.
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well i got a call today from qantas... but i was at work and missed it! i was just left with a return phone number and they were closed when i got it so ill call first thing in the morning.... im nervous to what they could have wanted!!!
fingers crossed it was good news.....
just had to share with you all hahha
fingers crossed it was good news.....
just had to share with you all hahha
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Yay Jesski, I hope it's good news.
Ha I'm guessing they'd get the same allowances... I mean, can you picture it? "Oh sorry, you can't eat tonight, you're MAM!!"
Just wondering if anyone knows... do you get some time to read over the contract if they offer you the job?? And... I second the interview info... anyone who's been recently... would love to know the format they're gonna use/some example questions... is it the pretty standard 'tell us about a time when...' q's??
Ha I'm guessing they'd get the same allowances... I mean, can you picture it? "Oh sorry, you can't eat tonight, you're MAM!!"
Just wondering if anyone knows... do you get some time to read over the contract if they offer you the job?? And... I second the interview info... anyone who's been recently... would love to know the format they're gonna use/some example questions... is it the pretty standard 'tell us about a time when...' q's??
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Hi,
As a QF CSM i hope i can clairfy something.
Shorthaul do not get given any allowance money when they arrive at a hotel in any domestic city. We get whats called DTA. It goes straight into our pay and is worth approx $4.60/hr. Thats from sign on at your home base to sign off at home base of the duty length - regardless if you are flying during that time.
On a regional (and in that i dont mean Dubbo and Tamworth), i mean SIN, HKG, AKL etc... you get that option of taking the allowance money given at check-in by the hotel in local currency, OR you can get that money given in your next paypacket. Your choice. On the Tasman's most crew dont take it, on the Asian sectors all crew do.
Hope that clears something up!
Goodluck with the interview process, it's always abit daunting, but as they say... just be yourself!
Cheers.
p.s. Skysista - are you a F/A with an airline...or just a very in-touch potential F/A?
As a QF CSM i hope i can clairfy something.
Shorthaul do not get given any allowance money when they arrive at a hotel in any domestic city. We get whats called DTA. It goes straight into our pay and is worth approx $4.60/hr. Thats from sign on at your home base to sign off at home base of the duty length - regardless if you are flying during that time.
On a regional (and in that i dont mean Dubbo and Tamworth), i mean SIN, HKG, AKL etc... you get that option of taking the allowance money given at check-in by the hotel in local currency, OR you can get that money given in your next paypacket. Your choice. On the Tasman's most crew dont take it, on the Asian sectors all crew do.
Hope that clears something up!
Goodluck with the interview process, it's always abit daunting, but as they say... just be yourself!
Cheers.
p.s. Skysista - are you a F/A with an airline...or just a very in-touch potential F/A?
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Hi Guys..
Have MAM interview this week. Anyone been through the process in the past weeks. Any idea of how the format is at present? What group activites are they doing now? Also understand there is a role play, any idea on what they ask you to do?
Cheers,
stevemelb
Have MAM interview this week. Anyone been through the process in the past weeks. Any idea of how the format is at present? What group activites are they doing now? Also understand there is a role play, any idea on what they ask you to do?
Cheers,
stevemelb
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Syd s/h.... thanks for that info. By 'most crew on Asian sectors take it', do you mean they opt for the local currency option? Or the other way round? (Sorry, I'm not very 'with it' atm...)
haha... I'm with an airline... just not an F/A... yet...
I just hope 'in-touch' doesn't mean "Obssessed"!
haha... I'm with an airline... just not an F/A... yet...
I just hope 'in-touch' doesn't mean "Obssessed"!
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Skysista,
You have no choice, whether to take it or not, on Asian (Regionals) sectors. You must take the money that is suppose to be enough to survive on whilst overseas when you sign on. And, unlike long haul, the money comes from your pay. It is already changed into the currency of the country that you are off to.
The only time that you have a choice is when you do a NZ trip.
Hope this makes sense and helps. Good Luck!
You have no choice, whether to take it or not, on Asian (Regionals) sectors. You must take the money that is suppose to be enough to survive on whilst overseas when you sign on. And, unlike long haul, the money comes from your pay. It is already changed into the currency of the country that you are off to.
The only time that you have a choice is when you do a NZ trip.
Hope this makes sense and helps. Good Luck!
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brissy mam kid
hello,
Im' about to start training in melbourne for a brissy position and I was wondering what to expect. It's all happened so quickly and I would really love a little info before hand. I've not been given any info as yet because I've jumped over from that Australian Airlines wait list. so.. I'l just love to know anything really. Where do brissy mam kids fly to mainly? how long is training, where do we stay, is there a training wage? ...
Thanks a million!
Im' about to start training in melbourne for a brissy position and I was wondering what to expect. It's all happened so quickly and I would really love a little info before hand. I've not been given any info as yet because I've jumped over from that Australian Airlines wait list. so.. I'l just love to know anything really. Where do brissy mam kids fly to mainly? how long is training, where do we stay, is there a training wage? ...
Thanks a million!