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Disappointed wrote " As a cabin crew member I am quite aware that many think of us as waitresses in the sky. I just sincerely hope for your sake that next time you fly you don't develope a dvt, have a heart attack,"
Jeez! This is a clear example of the pompous, exagerated attitude that you come across with some BA cabin crew. Frankly they don't accept that they are cabin crew!!!!
Not only do they get paid more than hospital doctors - they are beginning to think that they can contribute in a way a doctor can .
Miss "disappointed" - wake up and smell the coffee, please. You are much closer to being a waitress in the sky than you are a clinically qualified person. Lets face it - DVT or MI , YOU have little to contribute . BA's aeromedicine is first class training - but you are still a stewardess. Don't overestimate yourself !!
Jeez! This is a clear example of the pompous, exagerated attitude that you come across with some BA cabin crew. Frankly they don't accept that they are cabin crew!!!!
Not only do they get paid more than hospital doctors - they are beginning to think that they can contribute in a way a doctor can .
Miss "disappointed" - wake up and smell the coffee, please. You are much closer to being a waitress in the sky than you are a clinically qualified person. Lets face it - DVT or MI , YOU have little to contribute . BA's aeromedicine is first class training - but you are still a stewardess. Don't overestimate yourself !!
Oh Dear Shuttleworth calm down
If the rear cabin toilet was alight and your arse is on fire at 35000' and the only hope of you getting on the deck safely was the 'waitress' you have so much respect for fighting the fire, would you still have the same respect???
You guys crack me up.
BA have reduced costs dramatically. Yes they could reduce costs more. New entrant cabin crew at BA have an 8k basic and many earn the same as other uk airlines. Yes they have higher earning crew on old contracts. So what. Despite all the abuse they receive on this forum, they are still voted year in year out the best long haul and short haul crew by the likes of Business Traveller. Sorry to remind you of that but they must be doing something right.
Just give the guys a break and stop being bitter
If the rear cabin toilet was alight and your arse is on fire at 35000' and the only hope of you getting on the deck safely was the 'waitress' you have so much respect for fighting the fire, would you still have the same respect???
You guys crack me up.
BA have reduced costs dramatically. Yes they could reduce costs more. New entrant cabin crew at BA have an 8k basic and many earn the same as other uk airlines. Yes they have higher earning crew on old contracts. So what. Despite all the abuse they receive on this forum, they are still voted year in year out the best long haul and short haul crew by the likes of Business Traveller. Sorry to remind you of that but they must be doing something right.
Just give the guys a break and stop being bitter
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Really, this doesn't warrant a response whatsoever...
90% of you have no idea what you are talking about , obviously.
Perhaps you'd like to have a few infrectious pax coughing over you while you're down on the ground, or collect a 100 used napkins/facecloths/tissues/glasses/cups covered in god-knows-what or just be in the vicinty of 100-300 people for hours and hours and see what happens.
Whether you're flying waw-lhr or sin-lhr, you are going to be confronted by a whole host of bacteria/viruses that you have never encountered/built up immunity to before.
This is without the hazards of food poisoning , however mild/dire, and anything else you may encounter while fatigued/jetlagged/whatever...
You all have this attitude old school attitude of ,well we don't need that...well nor do we , but we are not behind a sealed locked door - we are face to face with them.
Please use some common sense or don't bother with your highbrow contemptuous comments
90% of you have no idea what you are talking about , obviously.
Perhaps you'd like to have a few infrectious pax coughing over you while you're down on the ground, or collect a 100 used napkins/facecloths/tissues/glasses/cups covered in god-knows-what or just be in the vicinty of 100-300 people for hours and hours and see what happens.
Whether you're flying waw-lhr or sin-lhr, you are going to be confronted by a whole host of bacteria/viruses that you have never encountered/built up immunity to before.
This is without the hazards of food poisoning , however mild/dire, and anything else you may encounter while fatigued/jetlagged/whatever...
You all have this attitude old school attitude of ,well we don't need that...well nor do we , but we are not behind a sealed locked door - we are face to face with them.
Please use some common sense or don't bother with your highbrow contemptuous comments
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I take it you haven't heard of the article in a recent edition of The Lancet which reported that the air in an aircraft is much cleaner than the average office and you are far less likely to catch an illness on board?
Frankly if that was the case I think we'd all be finished. Lets face it, your SEP firefighting skills consist of looking for the candle effect lights in the overhead locker or lav, cracking the door then discharging the BCF. Then the fire goes out. We watch it on the video feed and many of you don't do it well. IF we were burning at 35000ft I'd be heading for the nearest runway or flat bit of sea.
Which UK airlines would these be, because everyone I've met who's come from charter, BMI, EasyJet or Virgin are earning more now
Sorry, Virgin got best long haul last year.
I'm afraid, oldandskint, that you are displaying the kind of complacency thats getting BA into trouble. There is a widespread belief amongst BA cabin crew that they are the best of the best, that their abilites and skills are beyond question. Unfortunately that is far from the case. We've got an awful lot of gash crew, but nobody is willing to do anything about it. Except the CAA.
If the rear cabin toilet was alight and your arse is on fire at 35000' and the only hope of you getting on the deck safely was the 'waitress' you have so much respect for fighting the fire,
New entrant cabin crew at BA have an 8k basic and many earn the same as other uk airlines
they are still voted year in year out the best long haul and short haul crew by the likes of Business Traveller.
I'm afraid, oldandskint, that you are displaying the kind of complacency thats getting BA into trouble. There is a widespread belief amongst BA cabin crew that they are the best of the best, that their abilites and skills are beyond question. Unfortunately that is far from the case. We've got an awful lot of gash crew, but nobody is willing to do anything about it. Except the CAA.
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And what about all the other CC that work for every other airline, are they not faced with the same problems? Yet they do the job with a smile for half the money - well at VS they do anyway.
It's over, everyone's talking about it, the days are numbered for the fat cats. Or big airways are gonna be in even more trouble than they are already.
And what about all the other CC that work for every other airline, are they not faced with the same problems? Yet they do the job with a smile for half the money - well at VS they do anyway.
It's over, everyone's talking about it, the days are numbered for the fat cats. Or big airways are gonna be in even more trouble than they are already.
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I grudgingly agree with Carnage
BA crew have to keep making that extra effort consistently, and the hundreds of management need to move forward with the times to keep BA going, and to improve, which leads me on to....
from interviewing many many long-term old-contract longhaul crew over the past few years, they desperately wanted to move on to pastures new as bored, irritable, and fed-up, but I couldn't offer them any other position that pays the same as they were earning (on the pre 1997 old contracts and older) for the skills they have. They are stuck in a job they don't want to do beacuase they have established a lifestyle in most cases they cannot afford to take a pay cut.
Whilst that may be true. The toilet fire I fought a few years back was successfully extinguished and we continued to our destination.
BA cabin crews are on different rates. Theres bound to be angry responses on here as everyone earns different depending on circumstance. New contracts are on a basic which when calculated, would question the minimum wage rule, however crew then earn additional pay for the amount of work they do which brings them in line with other airlines, if they choose to work harder, do more flights, longer days, flog more duty free, then yes they will earn more. In other airlines I have heard crew comment on how they have done more work than their colleagues but earnt the same. How is this fair? I have yet to hear the same complaint from BA crew as the earnings are commenserate with the labour. Having seen the payslips, a low-cost airline last decade paid equal to a BA new contract crew member recently.
.... complacency thats getting BA into trouble. There is a widespread belief amongst BA cabin crew that they are the best of the best
The problem is that many of your customers - especially longhaul - experience staff who are as far from your description as you can get, and have the attitude to go with it
Frankly if that was the case I think we'd all be finished. Lets face it, your SEP firefighting skills consist of looking for the candle effect lights in the overhead locker or lav, cracking the door then discharging the BCF.
BA cabin crews are on different rates. Theres bound to be angry responses on here as everyone earns different depending on circumstance. New contracts are on a basic which when calculated, would question the minimum wage rule, however crew then earn additional pay for the amount of work they do which brings them in line with other airlines, if they choose to work harder, do more flights, longer days, flog more duty free, then yes they will earn more. In other airlines I have heard crew comment on how they have done more work than their colleagues but earnt the same. How is this fair? I have yet to hear the same complaint from BA crew as the earnings are commenserate with the labour. Having seen the payslips, a low-cost airline last decade paid equal to a BA new contract crew member recently.
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Oh dear I planned on just reading on the progress here but now feel the need to put my two pence worth in (again!) :-))
I am on the new contract with BA, only been here 4 years. Previously I worked for bmi as well as Virgin (as an IFS). I can definitely say that I earn probably 25-50% more on average for doing 25% less work. That is for sure.
-----'BA crew think they are something special/best in the world'----Blah Blah Blah.
Well, I don't think I am any better at my job at BA than I was at VS or BD. HOWEVER, I gotta say I often went to work with my previous airlines really tired (had little rostered rest), overworked and (especially in the case of bmi) the constant feeling I was being shafted by my employer. I really didn't think that I owed BD or VS anything. I felt they were working me like a dog for crap money so my attitude was probably not always the best. At BA I feel different though. I feel paid and treated well. For the first time I feel a bit of loyalty and appreication for my employer and that probably reflects on my attitude when I come to work.
----The 'old contractors'---------
A lot of these people are on SERIOUS dosh. But you can't turn around and take it away from them! Seriously, some of them are literally the most professional crew I have ever encountered. Others suffer from the 'got a massive mortgage, kids in private school, can't afford to leave' syndrome and that is sad. I used to be in stitches in the galley when I first joined BA. You'd get together in the galley with the old gals and guys and they would complain about how HARD the work and trips have become at BA. I used to laugh. When I told them what sort of rosters I had at midland of virgin they didnt believe me.
Anyhows, BA will officially become the 'worlds most profitable airline' the end of this month, announcing operating profit of GBP525 million. Which is great on the one hand, but on the other it's gonna make it a hell of a lot harder for willie to bargain with BASSA for more cuts.
I am on the new contract with BA, only been here 4 years. Previously I worked for bmi as well as Virgin (as an IFS). I can definitely say that I earn probably 25-50% more on average for doing 25% less work. That is for sure.
-----'BA crew think they are something special/best in the world'----Blah Blah Blah.
Well, I don't think I am any better at my job at BA than I was at VS or BD. HOWEVER, I gotta say I often went to work with my previous airlines really tired (had little rostered rest), overworked and (especially in the case of bmi) the constant feeling I was being shafted by my employer. I really didn't think that I owed BD or VS anything. I felt they were working me like a dog for crap money so my attitude was probably not always the best. At BA I feel different though. I feel paid and treated well. For the first time I feel a bit of loyalty and appreication for my employer and that probably reflects on my attitude when I come to work.
----The 'old contractors'---------
A lot of these people are on SERIOUS dosh. But you can't turn around and take it away from them! Seriously, some of them are literally the most professional crew I have ever encountered. Others suffer from the 'got a massive mortgage, kids in private school, can't afford to leave' syndrome and that is sad. I used to be in stitches in the galley when I first joined BA. You'd get together in the galley with the old gals and guys and they would complain about how HARD the work and trips have become at BA. I used to laugh. When I told them what sort of rosters I had at midland of virgin they didnt believe me.
Anyhows, BA will officially become the 'worlds most profitable airline' the end of this month, announcing operating profit of GBP525 million. Which is great on the one hand, but on the other it's gonna make it a hell of a lot harder for willie to bargain with BASSA for more cuts.
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I feel I have to comment on the sickness issue here. I am ba cabin crew on the new contract and I am currently sick. To cut a long story short I had flu which then developed into an ear infection. I have been off work for 21 days now. I am genuinely sick and with 1 infection have been off for three weeks. I do not want to be off work and in fact need to work to enable me to pay my mortgage, I am so bored now I would rather be at work. What are my choices?? Go into work and burst my ear drum???? I dont think so, my health is more important. My case highlights why cabin crew cannot accept the new sickness policy.
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I will second keeperboy. I to used to work for bmi and Virgin. Coming to BA had made me feel valued and actually enjoy and appreciate my job. It's a fab company to work for with great conditions. Yes I get paid well. REMEMBER, the company has bought in a NEW contract with the same Ts&Cs but with a much lower basic. Why bitch about our pay and conditions when they have already been reduced so much. I've spoken to many crew who have been there for years and perhaps haven't worked for other airlines. If you are used to 3 day 4 sectors and 2 day 2 sector trips and then that is changed to 3 day 8 sector and 2 day 6 sector you will have a litle moan. I on the other hand couldn't and wouldn't even think about complianing. Coming from VS and BD I have a much better lifestyle. However, these issues are minor compared to ohter issues that currently face us.
Several comments on this forum were very uneccessary and uncalled for. We work as a team on and off the aircraft and going by some of the attitudes, I don't know why you have been employed. Clearly, some of you are very bitter towards crew and Pilots and need to get your feelings and situations sorted out. Lets hope you don't bring it on to the aircraft, FRONT and BACK.
Remember, we are a team, not enemies. We work for the same company. Lets have a bit of support for each other and be rid of the bitterness. At the end of the day, if the s@@@t hits the fan, who cares who gets what!!!!
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Several comments on this forum were very uneccessary and uncalled for. We work as a team on and off the aircraft and going by some of the attitudes, I don't know why you have been employed. Clearly, some of you are very bitter towards crew and Pilots and need to get your feelings and situations sorted out. Lets hope you don't bring it on to the aircraft, FRONT and BACK.
Remember, we are a team, not enemies. We work for the same company. Lets have a bit of support for each other and be rid of the bitterness. At the end of the day, if the s@@@t hits the fan, who cares who gets what!!!!
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411A,
It's good to see since I left this forum a year ago you can still come up with so little!!.
Train up loads and get rid of the old hags........get fresh faces.
You begger belief you really do.I work for BA as a senior crew member.I recently flew with Air Canada from Montreal to Tampa.I would say the average age of the crew was 50+.The service was excellent and the main point is that I felt confident that if an emergency were to arise I had every confidence in their ability.
At BA i have the pleasure of working with a good mix of crew,age,sex,male,female,straight and gay.On ocassions we have the bad one as any airline or in fact any company does but in general I feel very lucky to work with the people I do.
Looks are not everything and maybe one day an 'old hag' may just be the person who saves your life!!.
A biggot of a passenger filled in one of our comments forms and asked the CSD to read it.As requested they did. In front of the passenger they ripped it up!!
Why?,because it read. 'When I fly business Class(Club World) I expect the crew to be pretty Stewardesses and not old bags and gays'.
Is the storey true,YES it came from the CSD who is a good friend.
This guy had one of two things,a very strong wife or a very small ****,so he had to pick on someone.
Which of the two is your reason?!!
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I left this forum last time because of lowlife comments such as yours.This time I'm back to stay.
Doors2Automatic.
It's good to see since I left this forum a year ago you can still come up with so little!!.
Train up loads and get rid of the old hags........get fresh faces.
You begger belief you really do.I work for BA as a senior crew member.I recently flew with Air Canada from Montreal to Tampa.I would say the average age of the crew was 50+.The service was excellent and the main point is that I felt confident that if an emergency were to arise I had every confidence in their ability.
At BA i have the pleasure of working with a good mix of crew,age,sex,male,female,straight and gay.On ocassions we have the bad one as any airline or in fact any company does but in general I feel very lucky to work with the people I do.
Looks are not everything and maybe one day an 'old hag' may just be the person who saves your life!!.
A biggot of a passenger filled in one of our comments forms and asked the CSD to read it.As requested they did. In front of the passenger they ripped it up!!
Why?,because it read. 'When I fly business Class(Club World) I expect the crew to be pretty Stewardesses and not old bags and gays'.
Is the storey true,YES it came from the CSD who is a good friend.
This guy had one of two things,a very strong wife or a very small ****,so he had to pick on someone.
Which of the two is your reason?!!
.I left this forum last time because of lowlife comments such as yours.This time I'm back to stay.
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I have just returned from a long haul trip (Economy) to New Zealand as a PAX. (Been reading Pprune too often!). Outward leg all Quantas via Singapore, return via Sydney and Tokyo with the last leg to London by BA. All I can say is Chalk and Cheese! Quantas service in the cabin was superb. BA was appalling! The daytime 11.00 am departure from Tokyo started well with a meal service about one hour in. Then the whole way (i.e. 10 more hours) to London absolutely no service from the BA attendants. I even pushed the call button 5 times for a glass of water and no one ever responded to it. In the end I had to walk to the galley and help myself. It seemed to me almost the entire crew were upstairs sleeping. Finally just before descent, a very surley drinks service and dry sandwich was flung in my direction. Having flown with most of the low cost carriers around Europe, I think they now give a better, frendlier service than BA at a fraction of the cost. Believe me I am not just BA bashing for the sake of it! I used to love flying BA. Now I avoid it wherever possible and I fear there are a lot more PAX like me. Something is seriously wrong at BA. High profits for now, declining load factor in Future?
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Tell me "doors" how did you send your message from the 777's CSD office while asleep?
Seriously though, the CSD was tearing his hair out the other day.
The service down the back should have been dinner followed an hour or so before landing by a light breakfast.
The doris's dished out the breakfast first, thinking it was an afternoon snack. I honestly don't think anyone noticed.
Seriously though, the CSD was tearing his hair out the other day.
The service down the back should have been dinner followed an hour or so before landing by a light breakfast.
The doris's dished out the breakfast first, thinking it was an afternoon snack. I honestly don't think anyone noticed.
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Woodpecker I was'nt asleep in my bed!.As everyone thinks BA have it so great I will keep up the momento........I was in fact in the CSD's on-board jacuzzi with three stewardesses and a businesswoman from club who got bored with her laptop!!!
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As regards the meal service you suffered I really have no answer.The meal routines are,or should be known by all.The meal service is normally dictated by the Purser in that cabin on Longhaul and should they wish to change it for any reason ie a delay,or they feel a main meal should be served before a snack or visa versa, they will normally pass this by the CSD.
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.As regards the meal service you suffered I really have no answer.The meal routines are,or should be known by all.The meal service is normally dictated by the Purser in that cabin on Longhaul and should they wish to change it for any reason ie a delay,or they feel a main meal should be served before a snack or visa versa, they will normally pass this by the CSD.
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Jewitts I read your post in dis-belief.
You pressed your call bell 5 times and no-one came? For this to happen I can think of only two reasons:
Either a) it didn't work
or b) the crew stuck their head out the galley curtain and commented 'oh, its that same guy that called us 10 minutes ago...and ten minutes before that...and ten minutes before that'.
Did you ever ask the crew why, after pressing your call bell 5 times no-one answered? Or maybe you couldn't find one as you state they were 'all' sleeping. The crew NEVER take their breaks at the same time.
I use the LHR-NRT route all the time. I am from Australia and work for BA and always go home via NRT with QF/BA. I find the service on the LHR-NRT route to probably be the best we have! We always have 4 NRT based japanese 'national crew' on board and they are very dare I say it 'japanese' in their ways. They are (almost) faultless. You cannot keep them in that galley for love nor money. Sit on their bums reading the latest copy of OK! no way! They'd much rather do a water round.
I do agree with you, the product can do with improvement (especially the second meal service) but we don't have much control over that.
I am not a BA employee that automatically jumps to the defence of BA when it's being slated (I would never have a free minute if I did!) but your comments just maybe don't convey the entire story about your journey.
Maybe it is your personal opinions to BA that gives you the attitude you have toward them. Check out the opinions of hundreds of others that have flown BA/QF and many others on www.airlinequality.com and see what they have to say about terrible BA and faultless QF.
As for the low cost carriers in europe giving a 'better, friendlier service for the fraction of the cost' here is an example:
easyjet.com Return flight from london-paris, cheapest fare available departing this saturday, returning monday £139.27 plus tax. LHR/MAD/LHR same dates. £229
ba.com Return flight london-paris, cheapest fare, same dates: £53.00. LHR/MAD/LHR same dates £211.
You pressed your call bell 5 times and no-one came? For this to happen I can think of only two reasons:
Either a) it didn't work
or b) the crew stuck their head out the galley curtain and commented 'oh, its that same guy that called us 10 minutes ago...and ten minutes before that...and ten minutes before that'.
Did you ever ask the crew why, after pressing your call bell 5 times no-one answered? Or maybe you couldn't find one as you state they were 'all' sleeping. The crew NEVER take their breaks at the same time.
I use the LHR-NRT route all the time. I am from Australia and work for BA and always go home via NRT with QF/BA. I find the service on the LHR-NRT route to probably be the best we have! We always have 4 NRT based japanese 'national crew' on board and they are very dare I say it 'japanese' in their ways. They are (almost) faultless. You cannot keep them in that galley for love nor money. Sit on their bums reading the latest copy of OK! no way! They'd much rather do a water round.
I do agree with you, the product can do with improvement (especially the second meal service) but we don't have much control over that.
I am not a BA employee that automatically jumps to the defence of BA when it's being slated (I would never have a free minute if I did!) but your comments just maybe don't convey the entire story about your journey.
Maybe it is your personal opinions to BA that gives you the attitude you have toward them. Check out the opinions of hundreds of others that have flown BA/QF and many others on www.airlinequality.com and see what they have to say about terrible BA and faultless QF.
As for the low cost carriers in europe giving a 'better, friendlier service for the fraction of the cost' here is an example:
easyjet.com Return flight from london-paris, cheapest fare available departing this saturday, returning monday £139.27 plus tax. LHR/MAD/LHR same dates. £229
ba.com Return flight london-paris, cheapest fare, same dates: £53.00. LHR/MAD/LHR same dates £211.
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How unconstructive some of you are.
Money is an emotive subject indeed but you all seem to have lost the point of this thread.
The crux of the subject is EG300 and it's failing to recognise that people who fly are far more constrained to coming in to work (thus as they swipe in confirming they are fit to fly), than people who sit in an office at a desk.
Anyone who disagrees with me please reply and I would hope (deep breath) that all contributors on here who do fly for a living will back me up on that statement.
Thee issue with the holding back of the pay (no matter who gets paid what in the airline or what fleet or what contract you are on), is emotive because it is the annual increment rise with inflation. It's not some big pay rise so we can all go and buy new BMW's, it's what we are entitled to as part of our terms and conditions of emplyment. As I would expect most others who contribute here are.
That is the point of the thread and that is why it came to a strike threat (on all fleets - not just the high earners at LHR but also LGW and the regions.
LINE DRAWN UNDER THAT
On the contentious subject of cabin crew pay. As has already been pointed our they maybe some in our number who are payed very well for their jobs. These people joined at a time when the airline and the industry was very different. However put yourself in their shoes now. You being in their position would you put your hands up and say "the game is up" and take home a grand less a month? Of course not. If your fortunate to have been in the right place at the right time then you coiunt your lucky stars.
Cabin crew that get paid more than pilots are in the minority now and new contracts even for CSD's are not as lucrative as they used to be.
If you believe that cabin crew at BA are paid better than you then feel free to apply. We're having at least 620 new recruits into LGW this year and people form all walks of life are welcome.
BA is still the benchmark for cabin crew in the UK as reguards to pay and T&C's, yes. But if you do pay peanuts I'm afraid you do start to get the monkeys (bring on all the witty and humourous comments).
As for getting paid more than others in other vocations that may do more valued or educated work. Well, that's the world we live in. If employers or the government can get away with paying less, they will. If I was an employer, I would too!
If money is you motivator then becoming a doctor, a pilot, and lawyer, or some other proffesional career is indeed the way to go. If you want a life dedicated to helping the sick, then maybe nurse or caare worker. If like me you are a champion of customer service and love people then you try to find a job where it is all important (I was in retail but sadly even management does not command that much of a high salary), so I came to cabin crew. I just happened to apply to BA and have spent 7 fantastic years at SHLGW and have no plans to leave.
I have made my career decision, please don't knock me for it or my collegues, just because BA choose to pay us more than a nurse or the unions fight hard to keep it that way. Like I said if our life is so easy or so good please feel free to join us.
You may not be rich but you may just be happy.
Regards to all and happy flying.
Money is an emotive subject indeed but you all seem to have lost the point of this thread.
The crux of the subject is EG300 and it's failing to recognise that people who fly are far more constrained to coming in to work (thus as they swipe in confirming they are fit to fly), than people who sit in an office at a desk.
Anyone who disagrees with me please reply and I would hope (deep breath) that all contributors on here who do fly for a living will back me up on that statement.
Thee issue with the holding back of the pay (no matter who gets paid what in the airline or what fleet or what contract you are on), is emotive because it is the annual increment rise with inflation. It's not some big pay rise so we can all go and buy new BMW's, it's what we are entitled to as part of our terms and conditions of emplyment. As I would expect most others who contribute here are.
That is the point of the thread and that is why it came to a strike threat (on all fleets - not just the high earners at LHR but also LGW and the regions.
LINE DRAWN UNDER THAT
On the contentious subject of cabin crew pay. As has already been pointed our they maybe some in our number who are payed very well for their jobs. These people joined at a time when the airline and the industry was very different. However put yourself in their shoes now. You being in their position would you put your hands up and say "the game is up" and take home a grand less a month? Of course not. If your fortunate to have been in the right place at the right time then you coiunt your lucky stars.
Cabin crew that get paid more than pilots are in the minority now and new contracts even for CSD's are not as lucrative as they used to be.
If you believe that cabin crew at BA are paid better than you then feel free to apply. We're having at least 620 new recruits into LGW this year and people form all walks of life are welcome.
BA is still the benchmark for cabin crew in the UK as reguards to pay and T&C's, yes. But if you do pay peanuts I'm afraid you do start to get the monkeys (bring on all the witty and humourous comments).
As for getting paid more than others in other vocations that may do more valued or educated work. Well, that's the world we live in. If employers or the government can get away with paying less, they will. If I was an employer, I would too!
If money is you motivator then becoming a doctor, a pilot, and lawyer, or some other proffesional career is indeed the way to go. If you want a life dedicated to helping the sick, then maybe nurse or caare worker. If like me you are a champion of customer service and love people then you try to find a job where it is all important (I was in retail but sadly even management does not command that much of a high salary), so I came to cabin crew. I just happened to apply to BA and have spent 7 fantastic years at SHLGW and have no plans to leave.
I have made my career decision, please don't knock me for it or my collegues, just because BA choose to pay us more than a nurse or the unions fight hard to keep it that way. Like I said if our life is so easy or so good please feel free to join us.
You may not be rich but you may just be happy.
Regards to all and happy flying.
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Cabin crew that get paid more than pilots are in the minority now