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Hi to all. From what I've herad aound Compass BA Gatwick will be both long and shorthaul. I'm on leave now and can't find anything on the intranet. Can anybody shed some light on this matter. Thanks guys. Will there be chance to transfer from LHR to LGW?
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from my reading of the subject elsewhere, then the company propose a single LGW base for SH and LH. The pay structures would see the LGW EF scheduling, salary and allowance base being used, with no CSD's required.
Existing LGW WW cc would have a couple of choices incl moving to LHR WW but remaining on current T&C not an option.
It would appear to be a very popular proposal at LGW SH as they have historically enjoyed a lack of support from BASSA/CC89 re transfer rights to LHR in that they only retain seniority for Staff Travel and lose all seniority and rank gained.
I think it looks like an astute move by the company.
Can you move there? Don't know - where are you now? I'm sure it will be quite popular in certain quarters.
from my reading of the subject elsewhere, then the company propose a single LGW base for SH and LH. The pay structures would see the LGW EF scheduling, salary and allowance base being used, with no CSD's required.
Existing LGW WW cc would have a couple of choices incl moving to LHR WW but remaining on current T&C not an option.
It would appear to be a very popular proposal at LGW SH as they have historically enjoyed a lack of support from BASSA/CC89 re transfer rights to LHR in that they only retain seniority for Staff Travel and lose all seniority and rank gained.
I think it looks like an astute move by the company.
Can you move there? Don't know - where are you now? I'm sure it will be quite popular in certain quarters.
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Thanks TopBunk. I'm currently SH LHR. So really, its good news for both SH and LH. I'm sure the majority of LGW LH crew will be happy to transfer to LHR. More money and destinations!! Thanks for the info. If anyone else has an update please feel free to post.
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Hiya guys,
Sorry pollypocket36, but what makes you think that this would be a good thing? As TopBunk says, it will more or less be the same contract that EF LGW have at the moment - which everyone knows is one of the worst going. Please don't be tempted into this thinking that it will be a short-cut to get to WW, because I'm pretty sure that when all is revealed it will transpire that if anyone were to move there from another base etc. it will take a long time to get back - if ever. The company have said that they want it to be a low-cost (admittedly, not the conventional type of low-cost airline) fleet with no Cabin Service Directors in-charge only Pursers; fewer crew etc.
Also, thinking ahead to the future - if this thing does go through (which I sincerely hope it doesn't, and that BASSA fights it tooth and nail) and it is a success, what is to stop the company moving routes from WW LHR and ploughing into LGW? MAJOR worry for the future of WW routes at LHR if that were to be the case - and to the detriment of all Cabin Crew on, or wanting to go onto, WW LHR in the future.
Sorry pollypocket36, but what makes you think that this would be a good thing? As TopBunk says, it will more or less be the same contract that EF LGW have at the moment - which everyone knows is one of the worst going. Please don't be tempted into this thinking that it will be a short-cut to get to WW, because I'm pretty sure that when all is revealed it will transpire that if anyone were to move there from another base etc. it will take a long time to get back - if ever. The company have said that they want it to be a low-cost (admittedly, not the conventional type of low-cost airline) fleet with no Cabin Service Directors in-charge only Pursers; fewer crew etc.
Also, thinking ahead to the future - if this thing does go through (which I sincerely hope it doesn't, and that BASSA fights it tooth and nail) and it is a success, what is to stop the company moving routes from WW LHR and ploughing into LGW? MAJOR worry for the future of WW routes at LHR if that were to be the case - and to the detriment of all Cabin Crew on, or wanting to go onto, WW LHR in the future.
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Since when have BA been interested in ploughing longhaul into LGW?! If I were you, I would be more concerned about the opposite - losing it to LHR, where all the business customers want to be and where all the connections are.
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Re-Heat, I know that over the last few years that WW LGW have lost alot of their routes and they were moved back to LHR, but that doesn't mean that BA will not move them back if they get this proposed fleet off the ground. It would be in their best interests - a cheap-to-operate WW fleet. "Why have it at LHR when you can have it at LGW alot cheaper?" will I'm sure be managements oppinion. The view that I was expressing was the very same one that our Cabin Crew union, BASSA, aired at our quarterly branch meeting last week.
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Just to confirm what the above posts have said, BA is planning to have only ONE fleet at LGW (As opposed to currently, a worldwide fleet..operating all routes not in Europe, and Eurofleet operating all routes within Europe)
Rod Eddington was down at LGW explaining what was to happen and today we have had 2 of the big bosses responsible for routes and planning etc, down to explain more.
Basically, subject to Union approval, all the worldwide crew at LGW will be given the option to transfer to LHR WW, or stay at LGW on Eurofleet terms and conditions...except I believe that they will keep their basic pay. Unless you are a CSD, as that rank will no longer exist at LGW. And all crew at LGW will operate both short and long haul flights on the 737/777.
As many have said, alot of EF crew are happy about it and a lot of WW crew are as well, especially those who wish to transfer to LHR. Understandably there a some who are unhappy, from both fleets.
There are so many rumours flying about Jubilee House at the moment (Even more than usual!!), so its a case of WATCH THIS SPACE!!
The aim seems to be, to make LGW more profitable by operating to a lower cost base, rather than going Lo-cost as it were.
Rod Eddington was down at LGW explaining what was to happen and today we have had 2 of the big bosses responsible for routes and planning etc, down to explain more.
Basically, subject to Union approval, all the worldwide crew at LGW will be given the option to transfer to LHR WW, or stay at LGW on Eurofleet terms and conditions...except I believe that they will keep their basic pay. Unless you are a CSD, as that rank will no longer exist at LGW. And all crew at LGW will operate both short and long haul flights on the 737/777.
As many have said, alot of EF crew are happy about it and a lot of WW crew are as well, especially those who wish to transfer to LHR. Understandably there a some who are unhappy, from both fleets.
There are so many rumours flying about Jubilee House at the moment (Even more than usual!!), so its a case of WATCH THIS SPACE!!
The aim seems to be, to make LGW more profitable by operating to a lower cost base, rather than going Lo-cost as it were.
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Right guys as far as the whole thing is concerned I will give you the lowdown as far as I have heard it up till now and tomorrow I will post again once I have a more official word (as much as is possible at BA ... I am meeting with one of the management for some or other business chat)
WW LGW and EOG will combine to form one fleet along the lines of the old Mid-Fleet (I believe it will be called OneFleet and not MidFleet but same idea!)
Options that will be open to crew at WW LGW will be one of the follows :
1) Stay and join the OneFleet on new contract (so new Terms and Conditions ... in other words less pay!)
2) Take severance.
3) Move to WW LHR under current contract.
Having said all that this is as yet ONLY a proposal and is not set in stone. And even if it does go ahead (probably looks like it) then we are looking at a time-frame of between 18-24 months (could be less who knows!?!)
Anyways as I said at the beginning I will be getting a more official word (as can be really) so standby for more info.
Hope this helps and I have more for you tomorrow!!!
Safe flying all!!!
WW LGW and EOG will combine to form one fleet along the lines of the old Mid-Fleet (I believe it will be called OneFleet and not MidFleet but same idea!)
Options that will be open to crew at WW LGW will be one of the follows :
1) Stay and join the OneFleet on new contract (so new Terms and Conditions ... in other words less pay!)
2) Take severance.
3) Move to WW LHR under current contract.
Having said all that this is as yet ONLY a proposal and is not set in stone. And even if it does go ahead (probably looks like it) then we are looking at a time-frame of between 18-24 months (could be less who knows!?!)
Anyways as I said at the beginning I will be getting a more official word (as can be really) so standby for more info.
Hope this helps and I have more for you tomorrow!!!
Safe flying all!!!
