Will Qf Hire From Short List
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QF HR just called me this morning, advising of what they have to offer. Longhaul, 10 months fixed term contract. Ground school to start in July. Not sure what base at the moment, but they are taking prefrences.
I was told that I will be called back soon to be given more details.
Who else has received the call???
I was told that I will be called back soon to be given more details.
Who else has received the call???
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Ok, just got a call from QF HR.
Absolutely no promises of a job - in fact they took great pains in explaining this wasn't a job offer, just a gauging interest in contract positions.
Essentially, 10 month contract with absolutely no promise of anything at all ongoing - in fact she said it was unlikely.
All that they wanted to know at this stage was whether I was interested in a 10 month contract with Long Haul and what my base preference was (they had already assumed MEL).
Apparently, IF they decide to proceed we will get a call back sometime. No time frames at this stage as to when. Also, no time frames for when actual training might start, but possibly June onwards.
Its all terribly exciting in a non-commital kinda way.
Footnote: I'm external in Melbourne.
Absolutely no promises of a job - in fact they took great pains in explaining this wasn't a job offer, just a gauging interest in contract positions.
Essentially, 10 month contract with absolutely no promise of anything at all ongoing - in fact she said it was unlikely.
All that they wanted to know at this stage was whether I was interested in a 10 month contract with Long Haul and what my base preference was (they had already assumed MEL).
Apparently, IF they decide to proceed we will get a call back sometime. No time frames at this stage as to when. Also, no time frames for when actual training might start, but possibly June onwards.
Its all terribly exciting in a non-commital kinda way.
Footnote: I'm external in Melbourne.
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Wow congratulations on hearing from Qantas..I'm still anxiously waiting by the phone...I'd take anything they're offering. It definitely sounds like you've got a foot in the door!
Are you internal or external? I'm external in MEL so i'm keeping my fingers crossed.
Are you internal or external? I'm external in MEL so i'm keeping my fingers crossed.
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10 Months!! These fixed terms are getting shorter and shorter.
You really have to look at both sides of the coin. You will of course hear all the stories about fixed termers being made permanent in the past but there were also a hell of a lot that werent and still are not flying today and havent heard a word from QF since their contract expired. We are in a very different aviation environment now as apposed to the last time fixed termers were employed by QF and this is something you have to take into consideration.
But on the other hand, if you accept good luck and enjoy the 10 months while it lasts.
You really have to look at both sides of the coin. You will of course hear all the stories about fixed termers being made permanent in the past but there were also a hell of a lot that werent and still are not flying today and havent heard a word from QF since their contract expired. We are in a very different aviation environment now as apposed to the last time fixed termers were employed by QF and this is something you have to take into consideration.
But on the other hand, if you accept good luck and enjoy the 10 months while it lasts.
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I got the call at about 1600hrs today. I was told that we would be terminated at the end of the 10 months therefore April. Iwas told we would be put back on the waitlist for a period of 6 months to Oct 2005.
Nothing else was specified only that we may have to attend a panel interview as we have been on the list so long.
10 months will go so fast but you have got to be in it to win.
Nothing else was specified only that we may have to attend a panel interview as we have been on the list so long.
10 months will go so fast but you have got to be in it to win.
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I agree GalleyHag - 10 months is a little shorter than I would have liked, but at the end of the day I think the experience would be worthwhile.
I had kinda figured that there would no way a permanent ongoing position would have been offered so I'd braced myself for 12 months or less.
Whilst there's no guarantee of anything at the end of it, I'm hoping that I might have a foot in the door if something does come up later on, but I'm realistic
Anyway, at the moment its all still a big rumour until they actually give me something in writing!
I had kinda figured that there would no way a permanent ongoing position would have been offered so I'd braced myself for 12 months or less.
Whilst there's no guarantee of anything at the end of it, I'm hoping that I might have a foot in the door if something does come up later on, but I'm realistic
Anyway, at the moment its all still a big rumour until they actually give me something in writing!
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for what its worth and based on my passed experience and what qf want to achieve 10mths to help in setting up os bases.england being the first one.hope this industrial stuff sharnt rain on anybodys parade.youd love to be a fly on v wall but 10mths does seem for a purpose with no carrotts either??????for any job after?????? good luck all.n guess if you do it youll see some great places and get paid for it.
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Totally agree Gigs. I spoke to LH FAAA today, and they are almost positive that the UK base will go ahead. With two more o/s bases planned aswell.
When I received the call earlier today from QF HR, I was WELL informed that this type of employment that may be offered will no way in any shape or form become permanent.
I do understand that QF must say this to cover themselves legally, and also in fairness to make all applicants totally aware of the grounds of employment.
But going on the fact that o/s bases are on the cards, and the fact that Dixon wants to cut permanent employee's. Id have to say that it is a big risk if you are going to accept this contract hoping that you will eventually be made permanent.
At the end of the day, we all have different circumstances and goals for the future. I understand that some people will be more than happy to experiance LH flying for possibly only 10 months and thats it. If thats for you, I wish you all the best, and hope you get what it is you are looking for in the end.
However, personally, I couldnt do it. And where I am in my flying career at the moment, I cant take the risk of having nothing at the end of a contract. Its a gamble, a gamble that I dont want to play at this time.
Once again though, I do wish all those that accept the position the best of luck, and look forward to hearing all your experiances.
When I received the call earlier today from QF HR, I was WELL informed that this type of employment that may be offered will no way in any shape or form become permanent.
I do understand that QF must say this to cover themselves legally, and also in fairness to make all applicants totally aware of the grounds of employment.
But going on the fact that o/s bases are on the cards, and the fact that Dixon wants to cut permanent employee's. Id have to say that it is a big risk if you are going to accept this contract hoping that you will eventually be made permanent.
At the end of the day, we all have different circumstances and goals for the future. I understand that some people will be more than happy to experiance LH flying for possibly only 10 months and thats it. If thats for you, I wish you all the best, and hope you get what it is you are looking for in the end.
However, personally, I couldnt do it. And where I am in my flying career at the moment, I cant take the risk of having nothing at the end of a contract. Its a gamble, a gamble that I dont want to play at this time.
Once again though, I do wish all those that accept the position the best of luck, and look forward to hearing all your experiances.
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Interesting!!
Well guys !! I guess the time has come that you all will have to decide whats best for you!! If tou do take the 10 months Is it worth it?? Even if you do have a full time JOB?? I would hate to get the tase of it and then of you go back to a waitlist and then nothing could come of it !! Well good luck to you all if thats the choice you make !! I being an internal havent heard nor have my friend on the short list heard anything !! I guess they (QF) have made there minds up and goingt he contract way!! If this is so we can all say goodbuy to the short list as we dont even get a choice to be asked.. So guys i think this could be it ..Maybe a letter in the mail soon !! sad sad sad !! Well what do the other internals on this forum think??? Let us know and well I guess keep smiling until next Friday !! .....
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good on yah q..tee no offence taken.can talk english just cant type it unless it was to save my life.think i got v point across though.signing out out this topic now . thats my way of saying no more typing........happy flying folks.
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Now that things seem to be happening.... And the great rumour mill is turning, and being added to by ACTUAL calls from QF HR... I have a question:
Has anybody heard any more about the PER base? I read that a lot of staff are headed back east, and that staff are being called in on days off and under lower duties to man flights, so is there any plans for recruitment in PER? I know LH has been discussed here, with the theory of 10 mth contracts, but what about the SH PER Base?
On a similar subject, the PER SH Base isnt listed in StaffCV as a prefered base, Im guessing its because nobody has updated it since the PER SH base opened.
So any takers?
JB
PS: Id also love to hear from any PER bases Cabin Crew, who would like to chat to me and I can ask some questions? Im sure you get asked this all the time, but the worst that could happen is a free lunch/ coffee...
Has anybody heard any more about the PER base? I read that a lot of staff are headed back east, and that staff are being called in on days off and under lower duties to man flights, so is there any plans for recruitment in PER? I know LH has been discussed here, with the theory of 10 mth contracts, but what about the SH PER Base?
On a similar subject, the PER SH Base isnt listed in StaffCV as a prefered base, Im guessing its because nobody has updated it since the PER SH base opened.
So any takers?
JB
PS: Id also love to hear from any PER bases Cabin Crew, who would like to chat to me and I can ask some questions? Im sure you get asked this all the time, but the worst that could happen is a free lunch/ coffee...
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Hi SocialFlyer,
Im still with Eastern, and it doesnt suit me right now to take a contract with QF. Im happy where I am, and wont risk it.
Just a longshot, has anyone thought that QF are offering contracts first and then maybe ( fingers crossed) will offerer internals or anyone in the Qantas group permanent? Highly doubt it, but its softening the blow at the moment!
Maybe the internals/Qgroup will have their waitlist extended yet again
Oooops...hang on...a purple pig just flew past my window! 
Im still with Eastern, and it doesnt suit me right now to take a contract with QF. Im happy where I am, and wont risk it.
Just a longshot, has anyone thought that QF are offering contracts first and then maybe ( fingers crossed) will offerer internals or anyone in the Qantas group permanent? Highly doubt it, but its softening the blow at the moment!
Maybe the internals/Qgroup will have their waitlist extended yet again
Oooops...hang on...a purple pig just flew past my window!
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Too hard basket.....
Guys, guys,
Gee.....don't know what I'll do when (if!) I am faced with this decision......did miss a "private number" call yesterday morning with no message left (very QF) so maybe......
Am the same as cloud nine - don't know if I would give up a great full-time job for 10 months - different if they said that we MAY be made permanent/extended after this.
Where is everyone who are getting the calls based now?? I know of one in MEL - any SYD or PER ppl got the call yet? Come on guys - it has gone all too quiet at the last minute!!
Oz xox
Gee.....don't know what I'll do when (if!) I am faced with this decision......did miss a "private number" call yesterday morning with no message left (very QF) so maybe......
Am the same as cloud nine - don't know if I would give up a great full-time job for 10 months - different if they said that we MAY be made permanent/extended after this.
Where is everyone who are getting the calls based now?? I know of one in MEL - any SYD or PER ppl got the call yet? Come on guys - it has gone all too quiet at the last minute!!
Oz xox
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Dont worry too much about your missed call. A friend of mine was flying at the time, and QF HR left a message for him to return the call. I do know of 3 other FA's that have yet to receive the call. So it's anyone's guess as to what is going on.
Roll on May 28th, curious to know what the FINAL outcome is going to be for us all.
Roll on May 28th, curious to know what the FINAL outcome is going to be for us all.
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No call for me or any of the 7 other people I know on the list in PER.
Perhaps they're only offering it for eastern states bases? Maybe there is another agenda for PER?
Who knows! Fingers crossed for everyone!
Perhaps they're only offering it for eastern states bases? Maybe there is another agenda for PER?
Who knows! Fingers crossed for everyone!
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The current ( and very persistent) rumour regarding perth is that the LongHaul base there will close, and all crew become shorthaul .... this kinda makes sense as the shorthaul crew can now do all of the flying that the Longhaul Crew do in Perth (they have new duty hour limitations within their award).
So it may only be a shorthaul option for perth. I have heard again more MAM casuals are happening for all bases.
So it may only be a shorthaul option for perth. I have heard again more MAM casuals are happening for all bases.
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Thanks Q-Tee for that info ! It just confirms that there will be more casuels working within QF Cabin Crew. I guess QF wants to be as profitbale as possible. I spoke to a friend today and they belive the LON base will be on the cards by mid next year. The current QF EBA with CREW i think expires some time mid to end of this year. So I feel they will have this placed in the award to expand of shore crew ..If they do base a local crew in LON as QF will have more flying there..with additional capacity via HKG it makes sense from the cost cutting side of things, from the moral point I think it will be bad. She can see the domestic doing short to mid flying as the short haul crew turn around is less and therfore cheaper. Having crew base in LON they wont have to crew the aircrafts all the way to Lon..SO from what they told me there are going to be big changes in store if QF gets there way !
So who knows what they will do with the curect waitlist. From the sounds of it they will offer externals LH casuel positions and the internals either nothing "see you later letter" or make this the last permanant schools that go through!! Lets hope that will be the case. I guess and keep saying if they wanted to drop us of the short list they could have done that in March as they would have know then what they were planning to do. Nearly there guys ! ..Whats happend to MR Seatback 2??? chat tomorow!!
So who knows what they will do with the curect waitlist. From the sounds of it they will offer externals LH casuel positions and the internals either nothing "see you later letter" or make this the last permanant schools that go through!! Lets hope that will be the case. I guess and keep saying if they wanted to drop us of the short list they could have done that in March as they would have know then what they were planning to do. Nearly there guys ! ..Whats happend to MR Seatback 2??? chat tomorow!!