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Old 20th Sep 2003, 02:08
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Cabin Crew Ranks

I am just wondering how different airlines work the ranks of CC on each flight. In my previous years experience, working both charter and scheduled on on variety of aircraft, there has always been:

1 Purser/Senior CC,
1 No2 Bar - in charge of all aircraft bars/monies and catering, and
X amount of Junior/Main CC.

The reason I wonder is that I am currently working on 737 family aircraft and there is no variation of rank among the CC, except purser. I just sometimes wonder if a brand new entrant CC should be allowed to manage all the bars, duty free, monies and catering, in addition to a section of the aircraft and the rear galleys.

So how do the likes of Astraeus, Ryanair, easyJet, European, Titan, Monarch, Air 2 bob work the CC on each flight, as all fly similar sized aircraft to the 737. Is there always a No2 rank or are airlines moving away from this and just allowing Juniors to take on this responsibility or are the Seniors getting all the work? I would have hated to do all the bars, aswell as assessments and the paperwork when I was a Senior, it takes bloody ages!
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All airlines I've worked for have had 1 senior, 1 no 2 and the rest are juniors. All juniors should have knowledge of the number 2 position, and if need be, be able to operate as a number 2, same with number 2's, they should be able to fly in charge...
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TCX have 3 ranks
C1= purser
C2= bar
C3=main permenant crew
C4= seasonal/new crew
Have got away from the term "junior" as its disrepectful to call a new member in their 50s "a junior"
A320= 1 C1. 1 C2. 3 C3/4 total 5 passengers 180
757= 1 C1 .1 C2 .5 C3/4 total 7 passengers 235

A330= 2 C1 .1 C2 .7 C3/4 total 9 passengers 354

Both C1's are of equel grade although one will be lead C1 determined by rostering .
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ranks at monarch

At monarch there are pursers ( if no purser avail 2x no1 can oporate) pursers are in charge on the 330 and a300 and also work on either the a320( as the 1 ) or the b757 ( as the 1)

Then there are no1 in charge of b757 or a320/1 (depending on fleet) and they are also in charge from the back on the a300/330
( a number 2 can't oporate as a 1)

then there are a num 2 in charge of back of a/c of b757/ a320/1 and alongside no1 on a330/300

then there are pemanent juniors then temporary juniors.
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At Astraeus, we carry a senior, and then main crew. However, new entrant main crew shouldn't operate the No2 (bar) position until they have a couple of months under their belts, and then they are generally working alongside an experienced No3. All depends on crewing levels and crew available on the day though. All crew are trained on the bar paperwork on their initial course and could technically operate as No2 once they're cleared on line.
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At ezy, we have one sccm and then the two crew are either 2 or 3, sccm decides in the briefing. When we get the A319 next year, we'll have 4 crew, although the role of the 4th crew member hasn't been decided as yet. A new entrant can fly as the no2 if they want to, which I encourage as we have so many crew coming on line that the more experience they get, the better.
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Ah call me old fashioned and stuck in my ways, but when I first started flying there was always a Purser, No2 and then the main/junior crew and it always worked perfectly well, so why are the airlines changing it?

I am not saying new entrant crew are not capable of managing the bars and monies, aswell as being incharge down the back, but I do think some level of experience is needed, not to mention the extra work involved!

However, I did once work for a foreign charter company (see separate thread) and the person with the most experience went as the Senior and anybody went as the 2, but all crew recruited had flown for a considerable amount of time and even then counting 15 bar carts and tallying the money was a nightmare, probably because no training on the bars were given!!!
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At Britannia we have 3 ranks,

1 No1/Cabin manager
2 Senior Cabin Crew
3-7 Cabin Crew (Depends on A/C)

Senior CC can fly as a No1 and CC can fly as No 2-3.

Promotion from CC to senior CC is about 7-8 years at LGW and from SCC to CM about 7 years more longer at Northen bases.

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