Virgin Australia - Wannabes & Recruitment III

[mema]

VA

Hi
I hope some can help
I went to a Virgin AD and was unsucessful I was wondering if there was a waiting period before I can reapply?
Do I leave the application in the system as there is nowhere I can withdraw it or do they look at you application again when they recruit next.
I am asking as they are recruiting again in perth and I really want to try again for them.
I have emailed Virgin and have not got a response from them

[mapsyd]

Don't quote me but I believe that if you attended an AD then you can apply after 12 months... If unsuccessful at online application only, 6 months.
My advice is keep trying and don't give up... Keep doing what you do and be happy doing it. Life goes on and if you are right on the day then all is good, if not take it as a learning experience and take from it onto the next AD... Change tactics and listen to their feedback which I assume you asked about after the AD?
Good luck to you and keep at it, you will get there eventually.

PS I still have not got there either but have done better my second time around... Still have the final interview to get through on Monday....

[Narayan91]

Re-application.

I also applied in Perth last month. So according to Mapsyd, it's twelve months before I may re-apply. Is it possible to confirm this? I would like to re-apply as soon as possible! Thanks!

[crs92]

Hey guys,

This is my experience.. I actually applied for Virgin and my online application was unsuccessful. Lucky I knew someone and she mentioned to me that on the Virgin website it informs what they're looking for in your resume, like adding in your skills that you have etc... so I changed it to their specifications and made it through to the Perth AD!

I have now done both interviews, online assessment and I'm waiting for them to contact my references Anyway, When I was informed I was unsuccessful I withdrew my application on the careers website, reapplied, changed what I needed to on my application and finally got invited to the interviews. This was all done within a couple of weeks.

To your questions for the time you can reapply if you made it to the ADs and was unsuccessful there.. I'm not sure and don't quote me on this but I was always told by people that Virgin tries to recruit every 3ish months and you could reapply then?

First time I saw them recruiting was about August time 2012 then this new cabin crew national campaign starting from Oct - Mar but then that makes me wonder when they will be hiring again from this huge campaign where they had thousands of applications!?

Try calling Virgin and ask to speak to someone direct apposed to emailing and waiting for a reply, though when I have emailed them they have always gotten back to me promptly.

I was apart of the Perth AD from 12th Feb 13 so any Perth people who want some info in regards to anything let me know! Also if anyone is up to the references stage I would love to know if yours have been contacted or you're still waiting? I emailed them and I got the impression that they contact all states references around the same time as the office is in QLD and they told me the amount of people they have to call will take a couple of weeks!which from the Perth second Ad I couldn't imagine it taking that long..

[Tashopeful]

There is no set amount of time you have to wait in between applications with Virgin.

I asked HR specifically last year, and I was told that they have no such policy, and that you should re-apply once you feel you have the skills they require, and you are more confident in your interviewing manner etc.

[mema]

Hi,
I got this back from them today, as they did not say in the AD if you have to wait

Thank you for your email and interest in reapplying for the Cabin Crew position in Perth.

We ask candidates to wait a period of 12 months before reapplying for the position. This will allow adequate time to reflect on their performance at the recruitment day and also gain further experience to assist in future applications.

But I have known people to attend another AD only 3 months apart, so I don't know. And my application wont let me do anything.
So I will wait and see what happens. I hope that next time I go they dont use the age thing against me as I will be 39 this year.

[lulu7210]

Hi
Does anyone know the age that the recruiters really recruit for Virgin Australia? I know there isn't an age restriction but at the end of the day, the recruiters pick who they want! I can see that you are 39 mema. I am also at that age and have been to AD's for other airlines where the recruiters and FA's are older. So I don't think age is important, its obviously how you interact with others and yeh, if the recruiters like you or your persona! But hmm Virgin I'm not so sure about! Can anyone tell me? Are there some older people who have gone to AD's and stood out for the better! I so want to work as a FA for any airline. and yes, before I start getting too old!

[mapsyd]

mema.....don't worry about your age...I will be 41 this year and was still able to get in to an AD!!!

I guess, try to re-word your on line application to the points of experience that they are looking for, you will find those in the company profile and mission statement...
Re-write your CV accordingly, add some bullet points of how your experience matches their requirements etc..

I am still not in myself either and this wait is killing me, but regardless of outcome, I have done better the second time around and will feel more comfortable next time if no luck this year either (fingers crossed to the opposite).

Best of luck to you and chin up...it is all about the way you word your cover letter and CV and answer the on line application questions....know what the role REALLY is and match your credentials to it.

[mapsyd]

Question for crs92

Hey again. Does Virgin call you to tell you you are successful or email only if unsuccessful? did they call you to tell you that you were through to references stage or did they email you?
Thanks again.

[crs92]

where the Perth people at!?

Surely I cannot be the only Perth girl who attended the ADs in Feb and still waiting anxiously to hear from Virgin.....

Any people who have progressed to the 'reference stage' and is still awaiting a email/phone call from Virgin? let me know if you have heard from them or not, the wait is killing me! seeing my VA friend travel everywhere around Australia in the time I have been waiting for them to contact me is crazy, super jealous of her!

The assessors advised there would be 2 ground schools this month, surely they wouldn't tell us if we wouldn't be able to attend either of them.. I am now curious if they have these 'talent pool' people waiting for ground school so us new people have to wait...

[mapsyd]

Melbourne AD

Melbourne ADs were pretty much the same as Australia wide recruitment drives. Perhaps the order in which they do things is a tad different but I will get on to that in a moment.
The first AD is perhaps the most crucial as they tend to be ruthless at this stage from what I have heard and seen...
The day starts off with an introduction to the company and the role and expected salary etc. One is then offered a chance to ask any questions regarding the role. You then all exit the room. After that you are split into groups and taken in a group at a time and they tell you what they want you to do in the activity ahead. You are asked to give a brief self introduction based on the parameters they ask for (i.e introduction without saying why you want to work for Virgin!!), you then are asked a question by the recruiters such as "what kind of tree would you be" or, "what kind of car would you be"...
You then sit and a group problem/task is given to you verbally and as a group you must come to a resolve. After that....you are asked to leave the room and you then get called back in one at a time for a one on one interview...basic interview questions.
You then are free to leave.
Fantastic day and met some wonderful people. The recruiters are lovely and very assuring.
Hope this helps and if any questions feel free to get in touch.
I am still awaiting my final interview outcome....so fingers crossed! am so looking forward to being Melbourne crew.

[Astara]

You gotta keep on, keep on, keep on, keep on ....

Originally Posted by crs92

This wait is annoying me now, ... this is my 3rd week waiting to hear back..they sure take their time

Three weeks is nothing, I promise you.

I was raced through from application to reference checks in under two weeks total and then told I was simply awaiting a ground school training start date - that was over four months ago! At the time I was ecstatic, because I felt at the speed the process was occurring, I would surely be training and flying in no time - friends who operate assured me they knew better, but I still kept my hopes up. I exchanged phone numbers with seven others at my 2nd interview (some who were even flown from PER/BRI to attend my AD in MEL, as there were no upcoming local dates) and all of them are still waiting for their 'Golden Call' - and yes, they are all still assured they are 'on the wait list' and have not been withdrawn.

To put it in perspective for you and everyone else reading this forum, from the conversations I have had with many, many QF/VA/JQ staff - the average recruitment period ranges between six months to a year. I've met just one active crew member working for QF who made it from application to ground school in less than six months. It's just the reality of trying to work in the aviation industry. :/

I have a funny and enlightening aviation recruitment experience a good friend of mine tells who went through recruitment with Virgin Blue five years ago. They applied, was rushed through the recruitment hurdles, and after waiting three months decided to move to Germany to learn the language and have an extended holiday while she waited for her ground school start date. She called the recruiters, and they insisted it would be fine as there were no plans to hold any ground schools for the foreseeable future and that it was almost impossible that she would be placed within the next six months. She moved a week later, and after only two weeks in Germany got the Golden Call asking if she could start in less than seven days !!! - That's aviation recruitment, there's no rhyme or reason for anything they do.

It is confusing. It is often outright frustrating as you are forever, and often needlessly, waiting - for something, ANYTHING from them to let you know something is happening with your application progress. Just take some comfort in knowing your experience is not unusual, and you may be waiting a long while yet.

I would strongly suggest looking for alternate work that is casual/highly flexible that you can leave as soon as VA make that magical GC.

Sorry for the long post - but I hope it answers a lot of questions for those who are confused by the recruitment process and the endless waiting...waiting...waiting...Oh - yes. I'm STILL waiting, this post killed five minutes... hmm... back to old TV re-runs while I sit by the phone

RING DAMN YOU!!! ... GOOD LUCK!!

[DEANO3271]

Recruitment day notice!

Hi All.

I have just heard back from my application for V/A,and have been invited to attend a recruitment day when the are next being held in Melbourne!

I just wondered how much notice is given to attend,is it weeks or months?

As I currently still live in the UK I would need to arrange leave and a flight over,as not planning on returning to oz for def until early next year at present bit this may change according to work offers!

[Hns131]

Recruitment Day Notice

Hello!

I attended a recruitment day in February and I only received the notice the week prior, so it was about 5 days to prepare everything!

Due to a system error, about 2 1/2 weeks later I was sent another invitation because it said I had not previously attended the one before that (which I did). However that gave me approx 2 notice.

I did however get through to the second interview which gave me another approx 2 weeks notice and now I'm just sitting here waiting...!

I heard they have a ground school organised for April (Melb based) does anyone know if they have confirmed these? Or has anyone heard when the next GS date is?

[Astara]

Training Schools

Has anyone heard anything concrete regarding when the next SYD/MEL/BNE Training Schools are due to commence?

After the freeze on recruitment in December, the last update I had received was in February directly from VA Cabin Crew Recruitment who had stated that June/July was the firm time frame for commencement. Any news would be greatly appreciated.

[bubblyguy]

To those above I know there has been a ground school in either Melbourne or Sydney recently (can't remember) and the 3rd one (yes 3 already this year) for Perth this year is in their final few weeks.

If you want the job then Perth is the place to go.

[Hns131]

Ground School

Just a heads up to people waiting for ground school dates for Melbourne, I believe there won't be any scheduled until after June because of the financial year!

[BTO1]

training

does anyone know when Sydney has a training school.

[BTO1]

recruitment day

does any know what happen in the recruitment day and is it easy day

[Hns131]

Recruitment days are probably the most nerve-wrecking! First of all you all gather at the designated location and nervously stand around and small talk, make sure to make some friends and get rid of those nerves! They take you all to a room where you seperate into tables of groups, and then are all shown a PowerPoint and given the chance the to ask questions etc.. You are then given a group activity. Last time there were only two presenters and three groups so my group were told to go have a coffee downstairs and chat and wait until the next group was through. We came back after an hour and had a group assessment. They monitor how you interact with each other and judge you on your performance work within in a team. They then thrown us an 'out of the blue' question' for example, if you were a fruit, what would you be. Everyone got a different one.
We then left the room and everyone joined up while they called is in one by one for a one on one interview.
You then left and were free to go home.
My advice, dress nicely, where your hair in a bun and try not to stress!!!!