Bermuda - Isle of Man

[absolute zero]

I saw a thread yesterday hailing the benefits of the Isle of Man Registry ? Have any of your operations moved from the traditional Bermuda /Caymen to the Isle of Man and is it worth it ?

AZ

[FL470]

Will IOM implement the same Flight and Duty Time Limitations as the UK?

[long final]

IOM is only for private operations.

[ExByMan]

FTL will apply to all private/GA/corporate operations (aircraft over 5700kgs) when Annex 6 part 2 comes into force in November 2010. And that will include the IOM.

[Pace]

IOM "CAA", "Sir can i see your Nigerian ATPL" ? "Sure you can Sir", "Thank you Sir", "here you go", "Go Ahead and place that big M on your tail".

How many Nigerian ATPL s are flying IOM? none I would imagine. Prob 99.0% are FAA ATPs and they are inferior to European ATPs. Shame the stats dont agree with that.

Pace

[Challengerjetdriver]

Forgive my English are you saying the FAA ATP's are inferior than Europeans?

[Mister Geezer]

The IOM are trying to provide a easy alternative for the GA community when compared to the UK CAA for example. I think they are managing quite well too!

[G-SPOTs Lost]

On a serious note I would heed a big word of caution when considering any dealings with the IOM. It all looks so very attractive now because it's cheap but just wait til things start to go wrong.
You will then find that you are dealing with the biggest bunch of lying cheating incompedent shyters you could ever imagine!
Just ask anyone of the 11,000 savers that have been given the runaround by the IOM jokers who lost their money in an IOM bank last October.
Wriggling, squirming, doing anything to evade their responsibilities. Not the bank, the Government. "Government" is just a joke there. It is a village hall with nepotism running rife! And it's them that will manage your M reg.
UTTER F@@KWITS!

Unhappy Jack

How much did you lose? Maybe serves you right for trying to get a better rate offshore...........anyway whilst your generalised views about the IOM wont get any comment from me - it must be said that the British Born Big Cheese on the IOM is one of the few gents left in Aviation, He'll happily hand over his mobile number to any one of the 800 odd validated crew members of the 150 aircraft he currently has registered, as one of the first validated crew members on one of the first registered aircraft I can safely say that apart from some minor niggles its the one of the best things we have done and I would reccomend it to anybody from a CJ to an A340.

Some highlights amongst others

A new RVSM approval on the G or N reg can take up to 6 weeks - IOM 6 hours
Crew validations - same day if required
Validation of FAA A&P licenses
Call me old fashioned but being able to speak to them between the hours of 9am to 5pm is a good thing - the bloody CAA close at 4! Cayman dont get me started

[Pace]

Forgive my English are you saying the FAA ATP's are inferior than Europeans?

No not at all. Statistically FAA and European ATP licence holders are the same.

Those who know that then use the pathetic excuse that someone holding an inferior licence from a third world country can fly in Europe.

Fact is its just an excuse to keep out FAA licenced pilots and other registrations from operating in Europe for self protectionism.

My comments were a cynical joke against those who want all foreign reg aircraft removed so that European pilots can get all their jobs The reason is as simple as that.

Pace

[flyingdiver]

Put a CJ on the IOM registry last year. Superb service and easy to deal with. Made a change to deal with people who actually wanted to help!

[youngskywalker]

Concur with the above. Having made enquiries a year or two ago about changing an aircraft from the 'N' to the 'M' registration, I found the 'IOM' very pleasant to deal with. I also received a mobile phone call from the head of the IOM CAA who chatted to me like an old mate for about 40 minutes! I believe the gentleman in question is ex belgrano. A breath of fresh air indeed!

[om15]

Benefits of IOM Registry

From the IOM Website


The Isle of Man Aircraft Registry was established to provide a customer focused service for the registration of high quality private and corporate jets and high quality turbine-engine helicopters. Isle of Man registered aircraft cannot be used for Commercial Air Transport. As the only dedicated corporate aircraft register in Europe, the Registry offers high international standards and a competitive scheme of charges. As the Registry has expanded we have increased our staff and moved to larger offices to ensure we maintain our high levels of service. We currently have eleven authorised Airworthiness Surveyors including a Surveyor resident in the USA.
The Isle of Man has an international reputation as a tax-efficient, but responsible and co-operative jurisdiction and appears on the OECD ‘white list’ of countries complying with the global standard for tax co-operation and exchange of information.
Some other benefits of registering an aircraft in the Isle of Man:

• High service levels and quality international reputation
• High regulatory standards
• Neutral Nationality registration prefix
• Secure mortgage register
• No insurance premium tax (5% in UK)
• European time zone
• A Standard & Poor’s and Moody’s AAA rated jurisdiction
• Professional infrastructure with experience in aviation finance
• Clear and simple taxation regime
• Stable legal and political environment

We are not able to register fixed-wing aircraft below 5,700 kgs other than for residents or businesses operating from the Isle of Man.
Please do not hesitate to contact us if there is any further information you require.
Brian E Johnson
Director of Civil Aviation

Hartley Elder
Chief Surveyor and Deputy Director of Civil Aviation



Mark Manton
Operations Officer


Isle of Man Aircraft Registry

[learjet50]

Hello all

Brian Johnson is a true Gentleman

I Have known hime for a good may years he will do things as requested as long as it conforms with the regulations


Regards

[absolute zero]

I asked a question about IOM/ Bermuda registry and I ended up with some arrogant,UTTER F@@KWIT ,who is obvioulsy one the biggest bunch of lying cheating incompedent shyters you could ever imagine, banging on about something completely irrelevant !!

Everything I have heard about IOM is positive and have decided to be another fed up operator to remove our aircraft from a completely imcompetent over regulated Bermuda registry.

I asked the mods to remove HappyJacks rant but they didn't !! I will shut this thread tomorrow !!

Thanks everyone else for your inputs

AZ

[Paradise Lost]

Unreservedly concur with all those who have good things to say about the speed, efficiency and friendliness of the IOM Aviation Registry.
Happy Jack, now your dummy is spat out, suggest you read back through your two offensive posts and see if you could be a bit more erudite before you bother to rant again!

[G-SPOTs Lost]

Unhappyjack - ok I'll uncharacteristically bite

It would appear that you have been judged by your peers and it is you who would appear to have come across as a "===============" if need be lets have a vote

Suggest you calm down . Dont say on here what you wouldn't say in real life.

No wonder your ex-pat - nobody wants you over here - I'm glad you lost your money

ps your on my ignore list - forums better off without individuals like you

[hawker750]

I think happyjack is really unhappy jackie at the wtotm

[learjet50]

Happy Jack

I Reailly dont think that your comments are approriate everone has there opinion


They do need a reply like you have given on 2 occasions

I think the moderater should ban u

Just my opion but I respect your opion but PLEASE dont use that Language I know your not happy but please this is a Gentlemens/Ladies forum not a Yobbo?foulf Mouthed forum

[Duck Rogers]

My first weekend off in over a year and you lot trash the place. Clearly someone has had some bad experiences but one or two lines have been crossed here.

Spleens vented, toys back in prams, back on topic please. Being grown-ups I know you'd prefer to edit/delete your own posts.

Duck

[Crosswind Limits]

This isn't the same Brian Johnson, ex CAA, ex London Guildhall University groundschool lecturer and also ex RAF navigator???