Danish Orlogsvaerft Maagen 3 Flyingboat.

... is the correct answer.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....06358a807e.jpg

That means.... SMOKEON.... GO (sorry, couldn't resist that one ;)).

Thank you,Jhieminga.
Quite a few clues in your original photograph.
O/H.

..... except that you haven't explained, Jhieminga, how your clue relates to the answer, namely that the Orlogsværftet 'Maagen' III derived from the Danes' modification of the Schreck FBA Type A (Orlogsværftet 'Maagen' II) which used Donnet Lévêque patented designs in its construction (although some sources say the Danes operated Donnet-Lévêque Type As)(see http://www.natureandtech.com/?cat=38). Or at least I believe that to be the case. The nomenclature of French pre-1919 hydravions verges on the impenetrable!

My apologies, I must admit that I'm out of my depth here. But I understood from my Google wanderings that the Danish Navy purchased two Donnet Leveque flying boats thanks to a private funding exercise, and named them 'Maagen' and 'Ternen'. I haven't been able to dig into this any further, but with the subject aircraft named Maagen 3, I figured that there was a link between it and that Donnet Leveque 'Maagen'. As you stated, there is also a 'Maagen 2' which, from the photos I have seen and my visit to the Teknikse Museum, is much closer in configuration to (or is) the Schreck FBA type A as you stated. I may have inferred the link...

I think, Jhieminga, that nearly everyone is out of their depth in this particular pool. Even the acknowledged experts, on a French aviation history forum I frequent, presently are seeking help concerning two hitherto unknown French WW1 hydravions. However I think it fair to say that there is a connection between Donnet-Lévêque and the Maagen III - but what is far from clear is the number of links in and the length of the chain that connects them!

Thanks, that helps! :ok: It wasn't just me who got confused then.
I figured converting to B&W would at least make the Danish roundels more difficult to recognise. Can't make things too easy for you lot. Did I forget any others?

No takers? Enter a breach stepper! This one is known by at least two names. I'll take either, both or another (if there are more than two names!).

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f0e9dfd874.jpg

It had its origins pre-WWII, evolved post-WWII and was further adapted at the end of the fifties. It was powered by a 40hp nine cylinder Salmson engine.

interesting challenge
I found the low elevator with the cut of rudder is quite typical for some designs of Peyret-Mauboissin
but no final answer yet.

You're in the right country, SLB, but this one is more artisanal that anything Peyret-Mauboussin produced. The Salmson replaced an earlier 35hp Anzani and the fuselage had its origins in a Mignet HM.8.

Fellot-Lacour (FL.4) ?

When this picture was taken, it had become the Amicale d'Aviation Légère 04, which derived from the Fellot-Lacour FL.4 F-PJCV, which originated from the FL.3 F-PBGV and which had its origins in the 1938 FL.2 and which was constructed from a Mignet HM.8 fuselage. Isn't life simple when it comes to French aeroplanes! But as I said, it had more than one designation and you've got one of those. So away you go, Smokeon.

fv, out of interest where was the pic taken,as it looks like the tail of a Percy Prince behind the nose,a possible Walrus fuselage,and a couple of T-Moths,and `LTD` on the hangar door...?UK possibly..?

Sorry, sycamore, I can't help you with that. The photograph appeared in issue 127 of the magazine Avions but I don't have that and found the photograph online. However I'd be surprised if F-PJCV spent any time in the UK. As the AAL 04 it was based at Lyon-Bron, its registration being cancelled in 1962 as destroyed.

Thank you.
Open House.

Hope you don't mind some Fred Drift, but Mignet's grandson lives not far from here and he showed me round the buildings where he built the later versions of the canards. I didn't realise that they were developed up to quite recently. But he had trouble getting insurance after an accident, so shut down .
http://avions.mignet.free.fr/anglais...0-Cordouan.php

DW

To pick up on Sycamore's Prince observation. It could be this
SAPA Paris | Southend Airport Aviation Database


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....5831e6ada8.jpg

To the best of my knowledge, the only two French registered Princes, F-BJAI and G-BJAJ, operated from Paris-le Bourget whilst with SAPA (although most of their time they were either away globetrotting and/or registered in other countries - see ADASTRA AERIAL SURVEYS - VH-AGF), which is a long way from Lyon. Thus I suspect that it is not one of these in the background of the photograph of F-PJCV (furthermore the tail markings don't tally). However I haven't had the time to go through my books to see if there were any French post-war light transport aeroplanes with tails similar to the Prince.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3f18e21ac6.jpg