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Self loading bear 23rd Jun 2020 15:36

As we have an Open House:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....30a989839.jpeg

treadigraph 23rd Jun 2020 15:41

AgCat, Great Lakes and a hint of Broussard... or Schlepp,,,

Jhieminga 23rd Jun 2020 19:40

Normally you finish building the aircraft before first flight.

treadigraph 23rd Jun 2020 19:44


Originally Posted by Jhieminga (Post 10818891)
Normally you finish building the aircraft before first flight.

...and finalise the design before starting to build. That said... I quite like it!

Self loading bear 23rd Jun 2020 20:06

The tail is left uncovered to prevent dust buildup

DownWest 24th Jun 2020 18:53


Originally Posted by treadigraph (Post 10818728)
AgCat, Great Lakes and a hint of Broussard... or Schlepp,,,

The Agcat referance might have something. There seems little reason for some of the bits (cut off wing tips) and pilot placement, if it was not a working a/c. Lots of space in the middle for spray or dust.

Self loading bear 24th Jun 2020 21:30


Originally Posted by DownWest (Post 10819816)
The Agcat referance might have something. There seems little reason for some of the bits (cut off wing tips) and pilot placement, if it was not a working a/c. Lots of space in the middle for spray or dust.

The AgCat is the only right guess up to now.
The double rudder was used to keep them out of the spray trail.

John Eacott 25th Jun 2020 02:57

Larson D-1 Duster (1955)


https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....926f657eee.jpg

Self loading bear 25th Jun 2020 05:00


Originally Posted by John Eacott (Post 10820105)

That’s the one. The number of parts only 25% compared to a Stearman.
John has control.

John Eacott 25th Jun 2020 06:14

An interesting plane with at least two world firsts to this model, plus a dubious (in these days) link to a motorbike :hmm:


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0c97ee6cff.jpg

John Eacott 26th Jun 2020 07:17

The motorcycle link was Harley-Davidson brakes: and any self respecting rider will know that Harleys don't go, don't corner and don't stop :p


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e925149986.jpg

Jhieminga 26th Jun 2020 09:32

That would be a Stinson SM-1 Detroiter, the one in the Golden Wings museum (Stinson Detroiter).

John Eacott 26th Jun 2020 10:53

Jhieminga there are quite a few variants of the SM-1: ten if my online research is right!

Which one is this and (apart from the plaque shown in the linked series of photos) what 'firsts' did it achieve?

Herod 26th Jun 2020 13:31

One of the pair that set the AAR endurance record in 1930?

John Eacott 27th Jun 2020 01:10


Originally Posted by Herod (Post 10821798)
One of the pair that set the AAR endurance record in 1930?

First 'first' was the SM-1Detroiter, which was a biplane and the first aircraft with an electric starter :ok:

More models and 'firsts' before we get to the posted Flying Machine ;)

Jhieminga 27th Jun 2020 20:01

I'll have to pass, I haven't dug into the story of these Stinsons as much as you have. I figured that first Diesel powered flight would be one of them but you stated that there should be two more, including the electric starter. That leaves one or am I missing something?

John Eacott 27th Jun 2020 21:09

Jhieminga you can take the honours with SM-1 :ok:

The one in the image was the SM-1B (or SM-1DX) which was the first diesel aircraft ever flown, and a monoplane after the original biplane SM-1. The type was also claimed to be the first aircraft with soundproofing in the cabin :cool:

Over to you Jhieminga

Jhieminga 28th Jun 2020 19:21

Thanks!

As long as we're on firsts, lets try this one. There's a story attached to it.

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4272214da2.jpg

fauteuil volant 30th Jun 2020 21:12

Perhaps a clue might be in order?

Jhieminga 1st Jul 2020 06:05

It was test-flown from a beach...


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