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Self loading bear 20th Dec 2022 20:36


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 11351813)
When I was gliding it was called the 'interblocater' for short.

You should then also remember that interblocator shields were round instead of rectangular,

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....da3c67a74.jpeg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e0dfa367d.jpeg

Asturias56 21st Dec 2022 10:51

Yes - its the Fiat - hard to tell between the various types - one that had totally passed me by - over to Noyade!!

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4378b2606d.jpg



https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ee921e6a6b.jpg
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....77d9789170.jpg
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ca74184d61.jpg

kenparry 21st Dec 2022 11:25

From the variety of fin shapes of varying size, it looks as though Fiat had a directional stability problem with that one!

longer ron 21st Dec 2022 14:25

I posted the location of the photo too early last night LOL
It is a truly impressive museum - even the hangar doors seen in this pic are fascinating (mechanism)


Originally Posted by longer ron (Post 11351794)
Picture taken at Lake Bracciano/Vigna di Valle (Italian Air Force Museum) - we visited there in 2017 - a really impressive collection in the really impressive old seaplane base.
Probably overall the best museum we ever visited :)
Here is a similar view out through one of the hangar doors.

https://i.imgur.com/YhZeZnn.jpg


Asturias56 21st Dec 2022 14:36


Originally Posted by kenparry (Post 11352183)
From the variety of fin shapes of varying size, it looks as though Fiat had a directional stability problem with that one!

From Wiki

The Fiat G.80 was a military jet trainer developed in Italy in the 1950s, and was that country's first true jet-powered aircraft. It was a conventional low-wing monoplane with retractable tricycle undercarriage and engine air intakes on the fuselage sides. The pilot and instructor sat in tandem under a long bubble canopy.

Two G.80 prototypes were followed by three preproduction machines, but the Aeronautica Militare found it unsuitable for their requirements and did not purchase it in quantity. Undeterred, Fiat developed a more refined version, dubbed the G.82, for entry in a NATO competition to select a standard jet trainer. Apart from many detail changes, the G.82 featured a longer fuselage, a Rolls-Royce Nene engine in place of the G.80's de Havilland Goblin, and wingtip tanks.

Five aircraft were constructed, but when the competition was cancelled and the G.82 was not selected by either NATO or the Aeronautica Militare, the development programme was finally terminated. Plans for specialised versions including night fighter, reconnaissance, and close-support aircraft went unrealised, as did the G.84 that was to have been powered by an Allison J35. The G.82s were used for a few years by the Aeronautica Militare's training school at Amendola before being handed over to the Reparto Sperimentale Volo ("Department of Experimental Flight") in 1957.
  • G.80-1B - prototype (two built)
  • G.80-3B - pre-production version (three built)
  • G.81 - definitive production version of G.80 (not built, development cancelled in favour of G.82)
  • G.82 - prototypes for NATO competition (two built) and four production[1]
  • G.84 - Allison J35-powered version (not built)

Noyade 21st Dec 2022 22:25

Thanks A56!

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c7adc09060.png

chevvron 22nd Dec 2022 06:52

Hughes H1?

Noyade 22nd Dec 2022 09:38

No sorry, not from Hughes. WIKI says maximum speed was a pedestrian 230 mph.

Asturias56 22nd Dec 2022 17:40

look a bit like a Bristol mercury version to me - perhaps the Valmet Vihuri?

Self loading bear 22nd Dec 2022 18:22

Perhaps Fiat G49?

Noyade 23rd Dec 2022 01:27

Indeed it is Bear. :ok:
I thought I'd try the old "Double-Fiat" trick. Two Fiats in a row.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiat_G.49

Over to you.

Self loading bear 23rd Dec 2022 11:23

Ok thanks,
Now this one

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b23f0d062.jpeg

Asturias56 23rd Dec 2022 11:42

Got this one but only because I've been grinding through dozens of planes for the Cockpit challenge - I'll leave it for someone else!!!

Self loading bear 23rd Dec 2022 11:46


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11353354)
Got this one but only because I've been grinding through dozens of planes for the Cockpit challenge - I'll leave it for someone else!!!

Yes you must also have seen this photo:

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....dab260a4b.jpeg

oxenos 23rd Dec 2022 15:26

I thought the baggge handlers were on strike.

meleagertoo 23rd Dec 2022 22:16

The challenge aircraft is an Albatros L58, a contender for the 'most butt-ugly aircraft of all time' award.
What's the pic above related to?


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....91241fceb2.png

Self loading bear 24th Dec 2022 09:06

You are correct that the second photo is not related to the first.
My mistake

meleagertoo 24th Dec 2022 09:13

Too busy with the goose to find a challenge.

Open house.

Self loading bear 24th Dec 2022 10:46

I didn’t reply that your answer is correct
(still some time to go) but as you already announce open house. I suggest we promote the second photo to the now running challenge:

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....98a5df66a.jpeg

Self loading bear 26th Dec 2022 08:31

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....40ba97424.jpeg
Another clue


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