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Pypard 12th Jul 2021 18:48


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11077553)
One that has passed my by over the years
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ef9048aad6.jpg
..............

Why only half?

sycamore 12th Jul 2021 19:04

Half-frame camera......?

Self loading bear 12th Jul 2021 20:53


Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 11077603)
Half-frame camera......?

Clearly not auto focus

Noyade 13th Jul 2021 01:31

Looks like there's a notched section to the leading edge around the cockpit.

Danish?
Skandinavisk Aero Industri product?
S.A.I. KZ III?

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4865fde7d8.jpg

FlightlessParrot 13th Jul 2021 06:54

It looks to me like the cabin windows are wrong for any SAI aircraft I can find. As also the Fletcher F-24, which has a similar treatment of the leading edge, though not so extreme as in the mystery aircraft.

Asturias56 13th Jul 2021 08:07

"Why only half?" - because the back-end says "Google this Registration" in large letters................ :E

It isn't Danish - I'd never heard of it but it seems to have been quite a successful design
https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a4827eefa2.jpg




Pypard 13th Jul 2021 11:09


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11077826)
"Why only half?" - because the back-end says "Google this Registration" in large letters................ :E

Well I assumed we were all blanking out details like that before posting (see my last submission in Post #2327 for example). Or conversely it doesn't seem very helpful to crop photos because you won't blank out incriminating detail.

FlightlessParrot 13th Jul 2021 12:03


Originally Posted by Pypard (Post 11077947)
Well I assumed we were all blanking out details like that before posting (see my last submission in Post #2327 for example). Or conversely it doesn't seem very helpful to crop photos because you won't blank out incriminating detail.

A long time ago on UK television there was an enchanting programme called 'Pets Win Prizes'. One of the competitions was to see if a human could identify their animal from a group of like creatures by seeing just its lower leg, or similarly detailed part. This thread has to work on that principle because the hotshots here are very hot indeed. Twice I have posted pictures of small portions of aircraft I regarded as extremely obscure, only to have them identified within half an hour.

Pypard 13th Jul 2021 14:40


Originally Posted by FlightlessParrot (Post 11077979)
A long time ago on UK television there was an enchanting programme called 'Pets Win Prizes'. One of the competitions was to see if a human could identify their animal from a group of like creatures by seeing just its lower leg, or similarly detailed part. This thread has to work on that principle because the hotshots here are very hot indeed. Twice I have posted pictures of small portions of aircraft I regarded as extremely obscure, only to have them identified within half an hour.

I think it might be better to try and be inclusive by appealing to a wider audience instead of aiming at the 'hotshots'. In any case, it's obvious now that cropping of photos is being done to remove identifying detail, rather than making it more challenging. It doesn't take much effort to blank the detail out after all, QED.

Beamr 13th Jul 2021 15:21


Originally Posted by Pypard (Post 11078057)
I think it might be better to try and be inclusive by appealing to a wider audience instead of aiming at the 'hotshots'. In any case, it's obvious now that cropping of photos is being done to remove identifying detail, rather than making it more challenging. It doesn't take much effort to blank the detail out after all, QED.

does it really matter as long as its a good challenge? Either crop it or paint it, or do both (as I did, still got identified in a few hours).

Asturias56 13th Jul 2021 16:19

Sometimes the "detail" is so distinctive it gives the game away instantly - cropping is just the same as plastering a big white blob over it - we've been doing both for years

Asturias56 14th Jul 2021 07:13

A well preserved one

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....74b67f5c23.jpg

treadigraph 14th Jul 2021 07:54

Is that a Gipsy Major?

Noyade 14th Jul 2021 09:39

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a4827eefa2.jpg

Ahhh....much older than I thought.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RWD_13


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....cf06c2af4b.jpg

treadigraph 14th Jul 2021 12:29

Interesting, my thought was of the PZL Gawron as I had a vague feeling it was Polish - close but definitely no cigar! I certainly have heard of the type somewhere...

Asturias56 15th Jul 2021 08:39

Noyade has it with the Polish RWD13 - a very successful aircraft - they sold over 100 and it was also built under licence I believe in other countries, There are still a few around and even a replica in Poland


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fd90e2b0ba.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ee5cd3df17.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8602dc5ae7.jpg

Noyade 15th Jul 2021 09:23

Cheers.


https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....df76fe3a76.jpg

Asturias56 15th Jul 2021 15:04

Looks like a Navy Curtiss NC-4 or similar

Beamr 15th Jul 2021 17:46

Is that a Wackett Widgeon? (whatta name!)

Noyade 15th Jul 2021 23:08


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11079293)
Is that a Wackett Widgeon? (whatta name!)

Whatta name indeed! All yours Beamr. :ok:

Beamr 16th Jul 2021 07:43

How about this then?

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3557a4031b.jpg

Pypard 16th Jul 2021 13:08

Does it have a twin?

Pypard 16th Jul 2021 14:07

Quiet day. Well I think it's a Thai Type 2 bomber, designed by Lieutenant Colonel Luang Vejyanrangsarit in 1939, and named "Bripat" or “Paribatra” (depending on translation) in honour of Prince Bripat Sukumphan (Prince Paribatra). Power plant was a Jupiter radial. There's one preserved in the Royal Thai AF Museum.

Haraka 16th Jul 2021 16:44

There's one preserved in the Royal Thai AF Museum.
A subscale replica, IIRC from many years ago............

Beamr 17th Jul 2021 08:13

Pypard got it right.

Interesting part is that apparently, with only 12 made incl prototype, they used four different engines during production (P&W Wasp, BMW VI, Bristol Jupiter, Curtiss D-12). That must be a record of some kind.

Pypard, your call! :ok:

Pypard 17th Jul 2021 08:37


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11080061)
Pypard got it right.

Interesting part is that apparently, with only 12 made incl prototype, they used four different engines during production (P&W Wasp, BMW VI, Bristol Jupiter, Curtiss D-12). That must be a record of some kind.

Well there' s a bit of info I wasn't aware of on a really obscure type. I suspect your post alone has increased the general knowledge of the type :)

Try this one. It'll probably go quick, but I like it anyway:

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2302f8d28b.jpg

Noyade 17th Jul 2021 12:18

Looks to be the Canadian Boeing Totem flying boat.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing-Canada_A-213_Totem


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....18f99835e2.jpg

Pypard 17th Jul 2021 14:35

That'll do: nice looking 'boat. You have control.

Beamr 17th Jul 2021 16:20


Originally Posted by Pypard (Post 11080277)
That'll do: nice looking 'boat. You have control.

Pypard, I was recently familiarized with the thread rules, which state that there must be at least 24 hours in between new quiz and the winner announcement. I take it that you weren't aware of it as wasn't I.

Pypard 17th Jul 2021 17:00


Originally Posted by Beamr (Post 11080316)
Pypard, I was recently familiarized with the thread rules, which state that there must be at least 24 hours in between new quiz and the winner announcement. I take it that you weren't aware of it as wasn't I.

Makes sense: Noyade you have control sometime tomorrow then :) In the meantime please feel free to take a guess.

FlightlessParrot 17th Jul 2021 17:26

Hi Pypard, just to explain: the 24 hour rule was imposed by the moderators of the board because the thread was becoming very quick-fire. I forgot about it myself and declared a winner within 30 minutes of posting what I though was a really obscure aeroplane. So the need to get something to last at least 24 hours is one of the things that led to only bits of aeroplanes being posted.
That Boeing is nice, isn't it: the bow looks very boat-like.

Planemike 17th Jul 2021 18:03

Have to say it had a Saunders Roes feeling to me....

Pypard 17th Jul 2021 18:28

No probs with the rule. Yes the Totem is a handsome machine: it goes to show what can be done with what are essentially flat surfaces.

FlightlessParrot 18th Jul 2021 00:23


Originally Posted by Pypard (Post 11080359)
No probs with the rule. Yes the Totem is a handsome machine: it goes to show what can be done with what are essentially flat surfaces.

Great tradition of the best American engineering: simple, strong, right. Mais oł sont les neiges d'antan?

India Four Two 18th Jul 2021 03:56

Les neiges d'antan ont disparu au printemps Canadien.

Lovely looking boat. I had never heard of it.

FlightlessParrot 18th Jul 2021 06:24

Copland, Appalachian Spring: 25' 35"
Anon., Le printemps Canadien: 1' 27"

Noyade 18th Jul 2021 06:29

Cheers Pypard.

Saw this on the net....
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0c5c8441d5.jpg

Beamr 18th Jul 2021 06:56

That reminds me terribly of Maule, but the nacelle is wrong.

Pypard 18th Jul 2021 07:00

If that's a radial up front then it looks quite big.

India Four Two 18th Jul 2021 07:22

I thought there was a Scottish influence, but the stabilizer is too small.


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