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asw28-866 26th Apr 2021 05:35

Apologies UV et al, got sidetracked. You are of course correct UV, it is the Mitchell-Procter Kittiwake I. Designed as a 'homebuild' single seat utility a/c and glider tug. The pictured example built by Royal Navy apprentices and wore the s/n XW784.

UV has declared OH.

'866

Asturias56 29th Apr 2021 16:06

Another oldie................

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e2e5f380b2.jpg



Meikleour 29th Apr 2021 16:14

Vickers Viking?

Asturias56 30th Apr 2021 07:55

Definitely NOT

Somewhat older

Asturias56 30th Apr 2021 15:58

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9470820985.jpg

GrahamO 30th Apr 2021 20:42

I found this photograph in my elderly fathers collection of memorabilia. That isnt him in the photo - its a friend of his when in the Army and from what we think its around 1953 to 1957 and possibly in the Sudan region. I was wondering if anyone could tell from the remains of the front of the aircraft, what type it is ?

Thanks

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2080f21a03.jpg
Roughly 1953 to 1957ish - probably in the Sudan.

asw28-866 30th Apr 2021 21:51

Graham, I believe the fuselage in your image is that of a Vickers Viking.

India Four Two 1st May 2021 03:51

The nacelles are reminiscent of a Bristol Buckingham, but I can't find more than four prop blades!

Asturias56 1st May 2021 07:06

yes - it does look like a Buckingham probably built to fill a similar role - only one built I think due to the inordinate time spent in development

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....38b72e58ad.jpg




FlightlessParrot 1st May 2021 07:40

I think that might be the short-lived Rikugun Ki-93.

Open House, if so.

GrahamO 1st May 2021 15:52


Originally Posted by asw28-866 (Post 11036672)
Graham, I believe the fuselage in your image is that of a Vickers Viking.

Thank you very much. Now to try and track down the actual location !

Haraka 2nd May 2021 07:10

The "eyebrow" flight deck windows are more typical of a Valetta than a Viking......

Asturias56 2nd May 2021 07:53

Parrot is declared the winner - it is the Rikugun Ki-93 - only one built . Took forever from the idea to flying



https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4caa7cfcc1.jpg

Self loading bear 2nd May 2021 08:32

I had the same thought about Vickers Valetta.
Or perhaps a Varsity?

When I look at the background i think the aircraft is not in its post-crash position, but might have been hauled,
Crash date could therefore also be before stated period?

Could it be that your father was on a stopover to/from Sudan.
(Egypt, Cyprus??)

FlightlessParrot 2nd May 2021 16:35


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11037288)
Parrot is declared the winner - it is the Rikugun Ki-93 - only one built . Took forever from the idea to flying



https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4caa7cfcc1.jpg

It really is rather elegant.
OPEN HOUSE, as I have nothing that will trouble the identifiers.

Asturias56 2nd May 2021 16:50

Yes I thought so too - with 6 bladed props in 1944 - although they never got the power out the engines they'd planned on

India Four Two 3rd May 2021 01:48

Here's one I had never heard of until I stumbled on it, while trying to solve a previous challenge!

https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f7b4a943ae.jpg

The Baron 3rd May 2021 03:41

Me 309 perhaps ?

GrahamO 3rd May 2021 19:10


Originally Posted by Self loading bear (Post 11037305)
I had the same thought about Vickers Valetta.
Or perhaps a Varsity?

When I look at the background i think the aircraft is not in its post-crash position, but might have been hauled,
Crash date could therefore also be before stated period?

Could it be that your father was on a stopover to/from Sudan.
(Egypt, Cyprus??)

He certainly did the trip to and from the Sudan for his military service however this photo appears to have been sent to him by the chap in the actual photo so judging by the shorts it could be anywhere in North Africa.

India Four Two 5th May 2021 00:46

Sorry for the delay, chaps. The Baron has it - the Me 309, a purported replacement for the Bf 109, that didn't live up to its promise and was cancelled.


https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b43d90bdae.jpg
I wonder how that hinged undercarriage door stood up to the pounding from the nose oleo.

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3d615f8f5.jpeg
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....749212186c.jpg

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_309

The Baron has control.

The Baron 10th May 2021 04:29

Sorry chaps,
Just noticed I'm in! Out flying and away, declaring open to any and all,
Cheers.

Asturias56 14th May 2021 07:46

Something for the weekend!

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....2c7a1a54c1.jpg



Asturias56 16th May 2021 07:48

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e81bf52a16.jpg

Self loading bear 16th May 2021 09:03

Shouldn’t take long now Asturias.

Asturias56 17th May 2021 08:22

That tail is a bit of a give-away I agree Bear

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....18b5dd76ad.jpg

Self loading bear 17th May 2021 17:20

Asturias,
Yes in the first photo the vertical leading edge of the tail fin was nicely hidden.
The Handley Page Hinaidi it was.

Asturias56 18th May 2021 08:27

Bear has it - I spent a lot of time trying to hide that tail......................
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....66efff6a4f.jpg


Self loading bear 18th May 2021 17:45

Thanks!

Does anybody know which nice little one this is?
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a4f83a5b4.jpeg

Asturias56 18th May 2021 18:09

looks like they borrowed the canopy from a crop duster...............

UV 18th May 2021 21:25

Experimental glider tug?

India Four Two 19th May 2021 05:00


Experimental glider tug?
... with twin engines?

Asturias56 19th May 2021 07:37

An upmarket glider tug then....

Might be a pusher........

Asturias56 19th May 2021 07:39

Bear - blowing up the picture it looks as if there might be letters formed by the trees in the hill middle right?

Terry Dactil 19th May 2021 07:41

Looks more like a miniature P-38 lightning to me.
Twin engines and twin booms ?.

Beamr 19th May 2021 07:53

a Cri Cri with uprated engines?

Self loading bear 19th May 2021 17:21


Originally Posted by Terry Dactil (Post 11047304)
Looks more like a miniature P-38 lightning to me.
Twin engines and twin booms ?.

very good indeed twin engines and twin boom.

Definitely no Hollywood on the hillside.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d33ff60ea.jpeg

Asturias56 20th May 2021 07:25

Must have space for all of 10 litres of fuel...............

Terry Dactil 20th May 2021 07:58


Must have space for all of 10 litres of fuel...............
That's probably enough.
I think it will be diesel engines trying to hide inside those ugly cowlings.:E

Self loading bear 20th May 2021 19:17

It appears not to be that easy?

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....61ab093e4.jpeg

Asturias56 21st May 2021 07:44

Its certainly not easy.................... are we in the USA?


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