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56,
I have replied to you. |
I'm reliably informed that the challenge is an Albatros L-65.
I guess we have to declare OH |
As I never am able to identify any of the flying machines (despite starting the thread :) ), Here's one from me as it is an Open House.
https://bgbd3q.am.files.1drv.com/y4m...&cropmode=none |
Japanese ?
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Well spotted.
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Mitsubishi Ki 46 "Dinah" by any chance?
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I'm afraid it isn't the Mitsubishi Ki
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Very long range?
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You are along the right lines.
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I think it's the Tachikawa Ki-77.
….and you've reflected the photo vertically. ;) |
I'm just about to go out for my daughter's Basketball match, so I'll confirm that it is the Tachikawa Ki-77. Only two made - so I thought worthy of this thread.
Was watching a fascinating documentary about the air links between the Germany/Italy and Japan during WW2, and this aircraft came up with it's attempt to fly from Japan to Europe after the Italians had flown the other way. The aircraft was lost somewhere over the Indian Ocean. Interested to learn that the other prototype made a record endurance flight of 57+ hours and 10000 miles in 1944. This aircraft survived the war - image on Wiki in US markings - but was scrapped soon after. Over to dook. |
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looks like the Fokker M.10E with the 7-cylinder 80 hp Oberersul engine and single bay - the 10z had 2 bay wings.................
the engine is very distinctive and the whole design has a Fokker feel to it I think............ |
Unfortunately it's not a Fokker.
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Is it German?
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It's not German.
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Spyker V1 fits the bill for thin struts and half round engine cowling but general appearance probably wrong.
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Go south of the Netherlands.
Correct engine though. Only one (prototype) built. |
Belgium maybe??
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Let's go to France.
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I looked at Nieuport but all machines with half cowling have V-struts.
Could be the case that I missed a prototype. Go A56 Go! |
Same here Bear - I've checked a load of weird and wonderful French machines but it's a very obscure type.................
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morane-saulnier ms.140?
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That was from 1927 and a two-seater.
The challenge is from 1914 and single-seat. |
Sopwith of some kind?
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I think it may be the Ponnier L.1 ..................
lJust before World War I, most French aircraft designers had concentrated, with success, on fast monoplanes. When a British biplane, the Sopwith Tabloid, won the Schneider Trophy in 1913 they were encouraged by the French government to think again about the possibilities of that wing configuration for military or "Cavalrie" types. The Ponnier L.1 of July 1913 was one response, a biplane revision of the Cavalrie version of the Ponnier D.III monoplane. The L.1 and D.III shared the same fuselage.[1][2] https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...cout.front.png https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ar_biplane.jpgThe L.1 was powered by a 50 hp (37 kW) Gnome rotary engine, much less powerful than the 160 hp (119 kW) Gnome in the D.III,[1] but both engines were mounted on tubular steel extensions of the main wooden fuselage. This was rectangular in cross section, with four ash longerons interconnected by spruce struts,[3] internally braced by wires and aluminium covered ahead of the cockpit, extending to a partial, oil deflecting cowling around the upper half of the rotary engine. Behind the single seat open cockpit the fuselage was fabric covered.[2] As on the Ponnier monoplanes[1] there was no fixed fin but just a rounded, flat topped rudder. The tailplane was mounted on top of the fuselage and like the monoplane Cavalrie carried separate elevators;[1] together they formed a horizontal rectangular tail. All the tail surfaces were steel tube structures.[2] The L.1 was a single bay biplane with a pair of tall, parallel interplane struts with flying and landing wires on each side. There was mild stagger and dihedral. The wings used a thick airfoil and were straight edged, slightly tapered and square tipped; the lower wing had a slightly smaller span. The upper wing had a deep cut-out to provide some upward vision for the pilot, who sat under the wing just aft of mid-chord. The It had a fixed, conventional undercarriage with its mainwheels on a single axle mounted on a pair of V-struts to the lower fuselage longerons, assisted by a long tailskid, mounted well forward.[2] Ponnier had hoped for military orders but none came.[4] When the L.1 first appeared its suitability for more powerful engines was noted; rotaries with powers of up to 100 hp (75 kW) were suggested.[2] The Ponnier M.1, flown in 1915 and the only Ponnier fighter to reach production, benefited from the L.1;[5] it was smaller and better streamlined, but shared some features like the thick wings, large gap, moderate stagger and slight span difference between upper and lower planes, the finless vertical tail and simple undercarriage. Its engine was a 80 hp (60 kW) Le Rhone.[6] |
Asturias thinks correctly. The Ponnier L1.
All yours. |
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You think mine was challenging, but this one not so Monsieur.
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An aircarft that found recognition away from home sweet home........................
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It did indeed.
Hanriot HD-8. |
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Volkswagen T1 but highly obscured by unknown heap of junk infront of it
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I have it as a Hanroit HD-1 in the colour picture above but I'll give it to Dook
Interesting design - never adopted by the French who bought the SPAD instead but something like 1200 built for & by the Belgians and the Italians who thought it a great success https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....11239153af.jpg https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....4dd95eec4a.jpg |
Thank you 56.
My source tagged it as HD1 - HD8, so I said HD8 as that is the number on the tail. How about another biplane. https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f30fdf73f7.jpg |
They did build a lot of the bloody things didn't they? :uhoh:
Is this one French? |
Just for once it's not French.
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Possibly American??
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Yes, American.
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