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Asturias56 29th Nov 2019 08:10

Not a Deepak but this country has produced and continues to have an aircraft industry - never produced a "classic" airframe but several decent designs some of which are still in production

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d92a6eea37.jpg

SMOKEON 29th Nov 2019 08:55

Aisa I-11

Asturias56 29th Nov 2019 13:46

Yes indeed - smokeon has the baton - Wikipedia entry:-

The I-11 was a two-seat civil utility aircraft manufactured in Spain in the 1950s. Originally designed by the Spanish aircraft company Iberavia, its first (of two) prototype flew on 16 July 1951. It was a low-wing monoplane of conventional configuration with fixed, tricycle undercarriage and a large, bubble canopy over the two side-by-side seats. Flight characteristics were found to be pleasing, but before plans could be made for mass production, Iberavia was acquired by AISA.

The new management decided to continue with development, but made a few changes to the design, reducing the size of the canopy, and replacing the undercarriage with a taildragger arrangement. This configuration entered production in 1952 with an order from the Director General for Civil Aviation for 70 aircraft for use in Spain's aeroclubs. The Spanish Air Force then ordered 125 for use in training and liaison roles.

The Air Force then requested 200 aircraft built with the seats in tandem, which were designated I-115 by the manufacturers powered by a 112 kW (150 hp) ENMA Tigre inverted air-cooled engine

SMOKEON 29th Nov 2019 15:16

Thank you.
Open House

Quemerford 29th Nov 2019 18:00

How about this?

https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b6a0061c11.jpg

DaveReidUK 29th Nov 2019 19:40

I'll just make a dart for my aircraft recognition books ...

India Four Two 30th Nov 2019 00:33

Who stole the tail from a Mooney?

treadigraph 30th Nov 2019 08:05


Originally Posted by DaveReidUK (Post 10629289)
I'll just make a dart for my aircraft recognition books ...

Just for a lark?

Asturias56 30th Nov 2019 08:38

Nice Champion Tri-Traveler behind

I wonder if this is the only Cessna 160 that was built?

treadigraph 30th Nov 2019 09:46

Not the Cessna 160 which is this - rather ugly!

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6f5587098c.jpg

MReyn24050 30th Nov 2019 09:53

Aero Commander 100 by any chance?

Asturias56 30th Nov 2019 10:49

certainly looks possible - I can't remember ever seeing one but then at a quick glance you'd probably think it was a C-150 - especially the earlier ones pre-1960's build which had a straight tail - not as straight as that one which looks like a Mooney rip-off - but pretty straight.

Any idea how many were built?

MReyn24050 30th Nov 2019 12:13


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10629644)
certainly looks possible - I can't remember ever seeing one but then at a quick glance you'd probably think it was a C-150 - especially the earlier ones pre-1960's build which had a straight tail - not as straight as that one which looks like a Mooney rip-off - but pretty straight.

Any idea how many were built?

Not sure of the total numbers built but Wiki gives further details of the aircraft:-

"The Aero Commander 100, various models of which were known as the Darter Commander and Lark Commander was a US light aircraft produced in the 1960s. It was a high-wing monoplane of conventional design, equipped with fixed tricycle undercarriage.
The aircraft was originally designed by Volaircraft, first flying in 1960. The firm marketed the original three-seat version as the Volaire 1035 and a four-seat version with a more powerful engine as the Volaire 1050 before North American Rockwell purchased all rights to the design on July 12, 1965, for production by its Aero Commander division. Production of the Darter Commander version continued until 1969 and of the revised Lark Commander until 1971 (by which time, Rockwell had dropped the Aero Commander brand name).
A Volaire 1050 was exhibited at the 1966 Hanover Air Show and later sold to Finland. Other examples of the type were exported to Australia and Canada.
Finding the light aircraft market too competitive for its liking, Rockwell ceased production of the Lark Commander in 1971 and sold the rights to all versions of the aircraft to Phoenix Aircraft of Euclid, Ohio,[1] but this company never actually put it into production."



MReyn24050 30th Nov 2019 13:27

Bit more information on the Aero Commander 100:-

Volaircraft Inc developed the Volaire 10. This aircraft was an all-metal high-wing aircraft with a cabin somewhat similar to that of later Cessna 150 models. It had a distinctive vertical tail that appeared to be swept forward and the prototype (N6661D c/n 10) was powered by a 135hp Lycoming 0-29()-D2C engine. The basic Model 10 was a three-place aircraft with a gross weight of 1,9001b, but the definitive version was intended to be a full four-seat aircraft with a 350 1b increase in gross weight. It is believed that only six Volaire I0s (c/n 10 to 15) were completed and the four-seat Model I0A replaced it on the production line. Also known as the Volaircraft 1050, this model was fitted with a 150hp Lycoming 0-320-A2B engine..
In July 1965, Rockwell Standard Corporation bought Volaircraft Inc and the Model 1050 was built by the Aero Commander Division at Albany, Georgia. Initially, this aircraft became known as the Aero Commander 100 (and the few remaining Volair I0s became the Aero Commander I00A but, in 1968, a number of improvements were made. The front and rear windshields were altered, and this version was titled Aero Commander Darter Commander. Production continued until 1969, at which point the model was terminated with 335 units completed (c/n 26 to 360).


Quemerford 30th Nov 2019 14:25

Good work all: OH then!

Quemerford 1st Dec 2019 11:44

Gone a bit quiet. How about this?

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....10b43c21be.jpg

MReyn24050 1st Dec 2019 14:35

Culver Dart by any chance?

Self loading bear 1st Dec 2019 14:42

it looks that Quemerford has gone to great length to prevent google image recognition

Originally Posted by Quemerford (Post 10630246)

https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a4dcc677b.jpeg

Quemerford 1st Dec 2019 15:38

Hehe. That went a bit quick: must try harder. Over to you MReyn24050.

treadigraph 1st Dec 2019 18:46

Designed by Al Mooney - great looking aircraft, love to see one in the flesh.

India Four Two 2nd Dec 2019 03:40

I had never heard of the Culver Dart before. It has a remarkably low aspect-ratio. I wonder what the thinking behind that was.

longer ron 2nd Dec 2019 08:30

To fit in smaller Hangars ?? :)

Probably showing its racing pedigree.

Asturias56 2nd Dec 2019 09:28

Not too far off - designed to use low powered engines - and it was eventually a Mooney!

from Wikipedia:-

"In the early 1930s Al Mooney was working for the Lambert Aircraft Corporation, builders of the Monocoupe series aircraft. He designed a small two-seat monoplane, the Monosport G.[1] When the company ran into financial difficulties Mooney bought the rights to his design and with K.K. Culver formed the Dart Aircraft Company.[2] The aircraft was renamed the Dart Dart or Dart Model G.[3]

The aircraft was a low-wing monoplane designed to be light with clean lines to enable it to use low powered aero-engines. It had a fixed undercarriage and a tailwheel. The initial version was named the Dart G powered by a 90 hp (67 kW) Lambert R-266 radial engine. That engine was in short supply, so the aircraft was fitted with a Ken-Royce engine and designated the Dart GK. The final version was the Dart GW powered by a Warner Scarab Junior radial engine. Two special aircraft were built with larger engines. In 1939 the company was renamed the Culver Aircraft Company and the aircraft was renamed the Culver Dart."

MReyn24050 2nd Dec 2019 10:22

Here is the next one. Somewhat older than the Culver Dart:-
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....552b78e200.jpg

Asturias56 2nd Dec 2019 11:48

looks French to me

also one of those rather bizarre engines with bits poking up into the pilots line of sight that seem to have been all the rage mid-way through WW1

MReyn24050 2nd Dec 2019 12:43


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10630898)
looks French to me

also one of those rather bizarre engines with bits poking up into the pilots line of sight that seem to have been all the rage mid-way through WW1

This one was not French, Riwever it was built towards the end of WW1.

Asturias56 3rd Dec 2019 12:48

American??

MReyn24050 3rd Dec 2019 12:49


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10631691)
American??

Not American, it was British.

Asturias56 3rd Dec 2019 12:53

I'm baffled - I shall go and re-read my Putnam's..............

Asturias56 3rd Dec 2019 14:16

Something like the Wright 840 Admiralty?

How many of these were built?

MReyn24050 3rd Dec 2019 14:41


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10631747)
Something like the Wright 840 Admiralty?

How many of these were built?

Not the Wright 840 Admiralty. Only two were built. The Company that built this aircraft did have a connection with the Admiralty.

Asturias56 3rd Dec 2019 14:55

Fairey N.10?

MReyn24050 3rd Dec 2019 15:19

Not the Fairey N.10. The reason the aircraft did not go into production was because it's general handling had not got the requisite qualities required for the purpose it was built. As the Machine was not fast enough for other use the original order was cancelled.

Quemerford 4th Dec 2019 08:18

I did reply but that seems to have been deleted (?). Beardmore engine?

MReyn24050 4th Dec 2019 09:57


Originally Posted by Quemerford (Post 10632210)
I did reply but that seems to have been deleted (?). Beardmore engine?

No the engine in this aircraft was a Rolls-Royce Hawk.

DaveReidUK 4th Dec 2019 10:34

Looks vaguely familiar, but I'm short of inspiration so I'll leave it to someone more sage than I.

CoodaShooda 4th Dec 2019 11:46

Avro 504F? Although my source suggests only one was built.

MReyn24050 4th Dec 2019 11:53


Originally Posted by CoodaShooda (Post 10632348)
Avro 504F? Although my source suggests only one was built.

Not the Avro 504. However, this aircraft was built to meet a contract to produce an aircraft that had a more robust construction than the Avro 504.

Asturias56 4th Dec 2019 16:06

I guess there is only one picture of this almost mythical beast?

MReyn24050 4th Dec 2019 18:19


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 10632492)
I guess there is only one picture of this almost mythical beast?

You may well be right. However, this Company went on to produce a float-plane whose air-frame differed very little from this type.and many components were identical. The engine however was different it was the 150 h.p. Hispano-Suiza..


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