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evansb 31st Dec 2019 18:00

That is non-other than Donald Douglas by his white-walled tyred "Cloudster II", circa 1947.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ccdd011db2.jpg

Quemerford 31st Dec 2019 18:15

Nice-looking machine: eventually donated to Santa Monica scouts and scrapped it seems.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....752c93d3e7.jpg
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bbee5446e4.jpg
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....fbdaf3e2f5.jpg
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....41c0402210.jpg
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....937ccdd763.jpg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3700b87132.jpg

evansb has control!

sycamore 31st Dec 2019 18:42

Think it was transformed into the Jet Provost....!!

evansb 31st Dec 2019 19:59

Another pusher design:
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b8e39f6a4c.jpg

treadigraph 31st Dec 2019 20:35

The Cloudster was a bit of kit!

Evansb, is that an F1 racer?

evansb 31st Dec 2019 20:53

Not an F1 Racer, but it is a one-off that may have been piloted by Wile E. Coyote.

India Four Two 1st Jan 2020 02:10

It looks familiar. Is there one at Zamperini Field?

CoodaShooda 1st Jan 2020 05:49

Acme Sierra

If so, Happy New Year and OH.

India Four Two 1st Jan 2020 07:38

I knew I had seen it. The Western Museum of Flight is at Zamperini Field/Torrance CA.

https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6fc122997a.png
S-1 Sierra (Sue) Acme Aircraft Co (Sierradyne Inc)

India Four Two 2nd Jan 2020 06:02

Here's a rather sad-looking ex-flying machine:


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....056eb94bc.jpeg

JENKINS 2nd Jan 2020 07:47

Percival Prentice?

treadigraph 2nd Jan 2020 07:54

Chipmunk I'd say, though the windscreen/hood doesn't look right.

chevvron 2nd Jan 2020 08:06

Canadian built ones had a different canopy to those of British manufacture.

Quemerford 2nd Jan 2020 08:24

Indian? Can we see the whole photo?

India Four Two 2nd Jan 2020 11:09

Not a Prentice or a Chipmunk.

I initially thought Chipmunk at first glance, due to the general arrangement, particularly the undercarriage legs, but no Chipmunk ever had individual sliding canopies over each cockpit. Also, the firewall is too close to the cockpit and those are not Gipsy Major engine bearers.

India Four Two 2nd Jan 2020 12:22

Discorde has it - the AISA I-115. I found that picture somewhere I can't now remember! It had no caption and even with EC on the part that I clipped, I had trouble tracking it down.

It does have some "Chipmunk-like" features:
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....890a66757e.png

Discorde has control.

treadigraph 2nd Jan 2020 14:45

Slightly redolent of the McDonnell 119!

asw28-866 2nd Jan 2020 20:02

French by any chance?

Self loading bear 2nd Jan 2020 20:56

I hope the square windows where removed in the flying version?

India Four Two 2nd Jan 2020 22:20

They must be very powerful turbojets if it needed a fin that big!

oncemorealoft 2nd Jan 2020 22:26

How would the wing spar arrangement have worked?

kildress 3rd Jan 2020 06:42

Dassault Méditerranée?

kildress 4th Jan 2020 07:37

https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c1ccebab53.png
Probably too easy for you all. My first effort.

Self loading bear 4th Jan 2020 07:57

Nice effort!
Definitely an interesting airplane!


Allan Lupton 4th Jan 2020 08:06

Used to see this being test-flown and can tell you what it is, but have nothing to post so I'll leave it to the others . . .

Quemerford 4th Jan 2020 09:05

Nice one kildress; in later config with different engines top and bottom I think.

oxenos 4th Jan 2020 12:35

Short on looks.

DaveReidUK 4th Jan 2020 12:42


Originally Posted by Quemerford (Post 10653542)
Nice one kildress; in later config with different engines top and bottom I think.

Yes, RR Avon RA.3 on top and DH Gyron DGy.2 below.

meleagertoo 4th Jan 2020 12:43

Shorts Sperrin.
Open House.

Quemerford 4th Jan 2020 15:30

Well it was nice while it lasted. :ok:

Herod 4th Jan 2020 16:48

Darn. I've been out all day, and this was the first one I knew the answer to!!

Quemerford 4th Jan 2020 19:51

OK how about this one: characterised by an unusual engine...

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....899358cd75.jpg

treadigraph 4th Jan 2020 20:25

Jeez, that looks like it's been milled from a solid chunk of granite...

India Four Two 5th Jan 2020 04:10

Quemford's challenge looks like a scaled-up tin-plate clockwork toy. ;)

Judging by the size of that prop, I bet it was a noisy bugger! I also note that it appears to have dual-pitot heads.

Looking at the cowling, does it have an inverted inline-six?

Quemerford 5th Jan 2020 05:16


Originally Posted by India Four Two (Post 10654172)
Quemford's challenge looks like a scaled-up tin-plate clockwork toy. ;)

Judging by the size of that prop, I bet it was a noisy bugger! I also note that it appears to have dual-pitot heads.

Looking at the cowling, does it have an inverted inline-six?

Close..... :)

DownWest 5th Jan 2020 06:27

Close...Would it be French with an inverted air-cooled V12?

Self loading bear 5th Jan 2020 08:34


Originally Posted by Kit Sanbumps KG (Post 10654138)
Hello SLB, I didn’t get St Merryn from your name, I know the place and recognised it immediately. Regarding J469, my point was that if challenges can be got so easily without effort, they’re not challenges at all. The Dassault flight deck is distinctive, but even so a moment’s work blacking out that placard would have been helpful.

Then I apologize for that.
I agree leaving a makers name, logo or registration number in the photo can make challenges quite easy, but then I personally do not react.

oncemorealoft 5th Jan 2020 09:54

I was the guilty party regarding the Dassault’s placard which I’d failed to notice or recognise its significance. Sorry!

I did blackout the reg on the Conestoga though.:)

kcockayne 5th Jan 2020 15:00

To me, it has got a “Mooney look” to it. Then again, I might be wildly out !

Quemerford 5th Jan 2020 16:45


Originally Posted by DownWest (Post 10654218)
Close...Would it be French with an inverted air-cooled V12?

Apologies for the tardy reply. No, not French and not a Mooney. It is a 12, but not a vee....


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