You are right, Noyade,
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Originally Posted by teusje
(Post 11427013)
It's first flight was about 1,5 year later than the SF.260.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....6218e5ba38.jpg |
1966 again.
Only two built. Al Mooney assisted in the design. |
Those wings look a bit short!
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Piper Arapaho?
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Not from Piper.
Wingspan is 28' 6". Flying magazine says there was less than 30mm between the prop-tips and fuselage. Aerofiles reasons for non-manufacture include - poor single-engine performance, stall speeds too high, climb speeds too low, and engine nacelles set to close, according to Al Mooney, who was a consultant. Very prominent T-tail on a rotund fuselage. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....0f8002b406.png |
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That's him. :ok:
All yours Simon. |
Thanks Noyade. An interesting aircraft that I had never heard of.
How about this one? https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....593718a571.png |
Big aeroplane!
It was on fb a few days ago!Same photo! I have no replacement so will keep quite!It had a large nosewheel!
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Originally Posted by oldpax
(Post 11430397)
It had a large nosewheel!
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9b83412ebf.jpg |
Noyade seems to have successfully followed up the trail of the giant nosewheel. Do you want to ID it?
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3ce264eda3.jpg |
It's huge! What could be the reason for such a large nosewheel? Availability of such a part from another aircraft type?
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Looks like the German 'New York' bomber but a lot smaller; Messerschmitt Me 264?
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Originally Posted by washoutt
(Post 11431359)
It's huge! What could be the reason for such a large nosewheel? Availability of such a part from another aircraft type?
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Big low pressure tyre to allow a heavy aircraft to operate from grass?
Or maybe just poor quality rubber preventing reliable high-pressure tyres. We targeted Germany's rubber supplies quite effectively as they were critical to the war effort. |
Yes, the Me 264 - one of the Amerikabomber candidates.
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....00e91dc247.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_264 washoutt, if you think the nose wheel is large, look at the main wheels! meleagertoo, I think you are probably right. I was surprised to discover that it had a wing loading of 73 lb/sq. ft, which was 6% higher than a B-29. The relatively high wing loading caused poor climb performance, loss of manoeuvrability, stability and high take-off and landing speeds. |
Open House.
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Germany wasn't alone in using monstrous tyres.
Brabazon https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8ab9791dfb.png Comet 1 https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....268641f1ab.png Comet IV https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....80e814146c.png |
The Beardmore Inflexible trumps the Brab!
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3625fba809.jpg it's still Open House |
Originally Posted by India Four Two
(Post 11430317)
Thanks Noyade. An interesting aircraft that I had never heard of.
How about this one? https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....593718a571.png |
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Itsy bitsy.....
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Could be........................ several versions - but lets not picky
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f9a03e40a7.jpg |
Bit of a give-away, that!
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Parker Teenie Two
As in Itsy Bitsy Teenie Weenie, my clue earlier? |
Canopy is totally different; picture shown is a one piece blown bubble canopy whereas the illustration in Wiki shows a canopy in at least 3 sections, one of which is hinged to open.
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Well, N62307 is a homebuilt called a Froheling. Clearly not the same aircraft (or not in the same configuration) as the original pic though though there are similarities.
I've found nothing on the internet about it apart from its FAA registration details sheet and no model name is given. |
There are all sorts of pics different final builds as far as I can see - I think this was from the days when you got the plans and did what you damned well liked - not the modern "airfix" build type of homebuilt - I will confirm tomorrow
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I certainly found pics of the Parker Teenie Two that fit the tail pic perfectly but none with the low-back and bubble canopy though that feature is mentioned in passing.
What surprised me was the 'quality' (or lack of it) in some of the tinwork depicted. Clearly it was intended as stated for construction by non-aircraft buiding and non metalwork experienced DIYers with domestic tools. Seems some of them took all that a bit more literally than makes me feel confortable! |
Its a Parker Teenie Two so Beagle has control
The bubble canopy is one in Croatia - everyone looks different as far as I can see. I understand the plans cost USD 1000 back in the late '60's. https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....3166b98fbf.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....8dec5009e2.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e504e97b53.jpg |
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TSR 11 aka Swordfish?
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Nope!
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Italian?
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Nope
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Awful lot of bracing wires - long tublar gunsight as well
American? |
Nope!
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Blackburn Shark?
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Nope!
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