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Asturias56 21st May 2023 08:12

Guys, slow things down - it as this back and forward posting of challenges that led to the 24 hour rule :(

Noyade 21st May 2023 08:29


Originally Posted by thnarg (Post 11437902)
And I would like to continue my retirement on this fine Sunday morning here. Open house…

Ok. Enjoy Sunday. 😉


https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....023231ecb5.jpg

thnarg 21st May 2023 09:04

Thanks Noyade - that looks good. And sorry Asturias…

Asturias56 21st May 2023 19:45

I've been banned for breaking the rule in the past (on a Christmas Day no less) - I hope they don't come after you

meleagertoo 26th May 2023 09:31

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....bcb50cd267.png

oncemorealoft 26th May 2023 10:22

British Army Aeroplane No.1. Pilot: Samuel Cody?

meleagertoo 26th May 2023 15:06

No Sir!

621andy 26th May 2023 16:47

Wright Model R?

meleagertoo 26th May 2023 17:32

Wrong side of the Atlantic though the designer was an American, probably explaining the similarity.

thnarg 27th May 2023 07:11

… which suggests Samual Cody was involved?

Senior Pilot 27th May 2023 07:25


Originally Posted by Asturias56 (Post 11438194)
I've been banned for breaking the rule in the past (on a Christmas Day no less) - I hope they don't come after you

A timely reminder, Asturias56 👍

As already posted on another thread please stick to at least 24 hours before announcing a winner. As a world wide forum we should be conscious of those on a different time zone who were left out of the UK/European back and forth.

chevvron 27th May 2023 07:28

Sam Cody (actually Cowdery was his full name) was more 'rotund' than the person shown and looking at the aircraft, the drive to the props was more reminiscent of Wright flyers rather than Cody.

oxenos 27th May 2023 08:42

Moore-Brabazo in one of his early aircraft. Don't know what he called it
Edited to add Short Biplane No 1 which was a copy of one of the Wrights

meleagertoo 27th May 2023 10:53

Neither Cody nor Moore-Brabazon. Rather more esoteric than that, a strange story that I'd not come across before.

Oops! My bad, the fella was a Scot with American education, early career and this aeroplane (C.1910) was in a third country. Dabbled in airships too.


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....c59fc6797f.png

thnarg 29th May 2023 07:29

Never mind 24 hours, Sr Pilot, we’ll need 24 weeks for this one. Looks like Henri Farman, Hiram Maxim and Alexander Graham Bell tried to assemble a Wright Flyer together without reading the instructions first. Again I have no idea what it is, Meleagertoo, but I had fun looking for it and learnt a lot about early flying machines on the way.

BEagle 29th May 2023 07:45

Huge propellors on Mr M-K's contraption!


https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....ad267d3c79.jpg

621andy 29th May 2023 09:47


Originally Posted by thnarg (Post 11442248)
Never mind 24 hours, Sr Pilot, we’ll need 24 weeks for this one. Looks like Henri Farman, Hiram Maxim and Alexander Graham Bell tried to assemble a Wright Flyer together without reading the instructions first. Again I have no idea what it is, Meleagertoo, but I had fun looking for it and learnt a lot about early flying machines on the way.

I agree! I've spent untold hours scouring the 'net for anything resembling this...Put us out of our misery, we admit defeat:O

BEagle 29th May 2023 10:35

It's the 'Experimental Aeroplane Kennedy #1', designed by J. H. Chesborough MacKenzie-Kennedy who was indeed an American-educated Scot whose aircraft were built in Russia.

More information at https://www.alexanderpalace.org/aeri...flyingmen.html .

meleagertoo 29th May 2023 11:43

Beagle has it, well done, that was pretty obscure to say the least.

Chesborough MacKenzie-Kennedy returned to UK when the 1st WW broke out and built a gigantic bomber which was not a success.
https://www.secretprojects.co.uk/thr...rojects.26689/

BEagle 29th May 2023 11:56

Thanks, meleagertoo!

I give you:


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....e2b1f2a4bb.jpg

chevvron 29th May 2023 13:18

Sounds silly but it looks like a Mosquito fitted with radial engines and hydraulic undercarriage.

ea200 29th May 2023 13:38


Originally Posted by chevvron (Post 11442443)
Sounds silly but it looks like a Mosquito fitted with radial engines and hydraulic undercarriage.

Could be the Argentinian IA-24 Calquin?

621andy 29th May 2023 13:48

Beat me to it ea200:) Although the undercarriage doesn't look quite right, specifically the hubs:confused:


ea200 29th May 2023 14:02


Originally Posted by 621andy (Post 11442456)
Beat me to it ea200:) Although the undercarriage doesn't look quite right, specifically the hubs:confused:

There are pictures that seem to show different hubs, but it seems to match this one:
https://www.laahs.com/wp-content/uploads/IAe-24_02.jpg

See https://www.laahs.com/i-ae-24-calqui...tine-mosquito/

BEagle 29th May 2023 23:55


Originally Posted by ea200 (Post 11442450)
Could be the Argentinian IA-24 Calquin?

Is that a question?

ea200 30th May 2023 08:11


Originally Posted by BEagle (Post 11442712)
Is that a question?

It was when I posted it. But following some more poking around looking at wheel hubs, I am happy to make it a statement!

621andy 30th May 2023 08:36


Originally Posted by ea200 (Post 11442861)
It was when I posted it. But following some more poking around looking at wheel hubs, I am happy to make it a statement!

I'll second that:p

BEagle 30th May 2023 15:18

ea200, it was indeed the Calquin!

All yours for a new challenge!!

ea200 30th May 2023 19:35

Thanks BEagle and thanks to chevvron for setting me off on the right track.

Now for this:


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....b60207d836.jpg

Noyade 30th May 2023 21:12

Eucalypts in the background. :ok:
Duigan's biplane.


https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....f5bb51ae6c.jpg

oxenos 30th May 2023 22:32


Eucalypts in the background.
Is this an aircraft recognition forum, or a tree recognition forum?

ea200 31st May 2023 22:47

I can confirm that Noyade is correct, it is the Duigan biplane. I cannot confirm the tree recognition but I can only identify a Eucalypt if I'm standing right next to it!

Over to you Noyade.

Noyade 1st Jun 2023 01:40

Thank you ea200. Tree species was an assumption - got a few in the backyard.
Monoplane this time...



https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....98549c8339.jpg

chevvron 1st Jun 2023 09:28

Demoiselle?

teusje 1st Jun 2023 15:05

L.J.R. Jones' aeroplane of 1911

Noyade 2nd Jun 2023 06:25

Certainly on the right track, teusje - it is an early Australian monoplane, but not from Jones.
It's a pusher prop...


https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....860319f67d.jpg


621andy 2nd Jun 2023 13:10

Hart Racing Monoplane

Noyade 3rd Jun 2023 12:41

Indeed it is, Andy. :ok:
Over to you.

621andy 3rd Jun 2023 12:55

Woohoo!

I'm sure this'll be an easy one for you experts...

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....984f685435.jpg

Asturias56 3rd Jun 2023 13:42

ADI Condor I think........................


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