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AlphaZuluRomeo 17th Feb 2013 21:49

Let's perform a miracle, then, shall we? :p

http://www.bakes.fr/_AlphaZuluRomeo/challenge.jpg

sycamore 18th Feb 2013 10:26

APU exhaust..?

AlphaZuluRomeo 19th Feb 2013 08:49

Right you are. :)

sycamore 19th Feb 2013 19:38

Picture turned 90* left/right ? or underside..?

Lightning Mate 21st Feb 2013 16:02

What a slow thread!

TheiC 22nd Feb 2013 18:26

I suspect AZR either cannot post or has forgotten to look at the thread...

How long before we (more probably you, the core players) decide to throw this challenge away and declare an open house?

If AZR is reading but didn't want to answer the previous question, I'll punt mine in: I think this is either a helicopter or another relatively-low-speed aircraft; my question: is this a helicopter?

MReyn24050 22nd Feb 2013 20:10

Should it be this way up? :hmm:
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...ps7f7f7848.jpg

AlphaZuluRomeo 22nd Feb 2013 20:12

Hi,

Sorry for late answer, gentlemen.

sycamore, right again, the pic is rotated. Left (pic) is above (reality). :D
[edit] MReyn24050 got it right while I was typing this post. :)

TheiC, it's not a relatively-low-speed aircraft. Nor a helicopter, which would be part of the relatively-low-speed aircrafts category. ;)

MReyn24050 22nd Feb 2013 20:33

Top right is a Slinging or Hoisting Point marking. Is this a Naval aircraft?

AlphaZuluRomeo 22nd Feb 2013 21:07


Originally Posted by MReyn24050 (Post 7709766)
Top right is a Slinging or Hoisting Point marking.

Yes.


Originally Posted by MReyn24050 (Post 7709766)
Is this a Naval aircraft?

Errr... let me check...

...

Well, not that particular one, but you couldn't say from just this pic :cool:

MReyn24050 22nd Feb 2013 21:12


No, not this particular one.
Intriguing? Are we to take from that the aircraft was used by both a Navy and an Air Force. Going by the Safe Armed markings I am assuming it is military aircraft.

TheiC 22nd Feb 2013 21:29

Keeping the ball rolling (my last question was deliberately very specifically worded, by the way)...

There's an invitation to see the forward section of a vertical fin with an APU (I'll say a small APU) buried, probably in a dorsal section, exhausting port side of the vertical fin... The arrangements of intakes and exhausts is interesting.

Safe/armed does indeed suggest military (indeed, not just military, but combat) though it could also be, for example, a ballistic spin-recovery system on a flight-test aircraft.

This does now look like a high-speed structure, perhaps with considerable sweep on the fin, but the vents are unrefined. That has to date it, I guess...

What is the member coming in towards the camera? A stab with Phantom-like anhedral?

PS: AZR, you could really upset some Lynx pilots I know with those remarks!

sycamore 22nd Feb 2013 21:46

Is it still in-service,or is it a museum-piece..?

Noyade 22nd Feb 2013 22:01


What is the member coming in towards the camera?
I'm hoping it's the fuselage?

http://img854.imageshack.us/img854/7028/img739y.jpg

AlphaZuluRomeo 22nd Feb 2013 22:05


Originally Posted by MReyn24050 (Post 7709826)
Are we to take from that the aircraft was used by both a Navy and an Air Force. Going by the Safe Armed markings I am assuming it is military aircraft.

Yes and yes.


Originally Posted by TheiC (Post 7709846)
(...) to see the forward section of a vertical fin with an APU (I'll say a small APU) buried, probably in a dorsal section, exhausting port side of the vertical fin...

Correct.


Originally Posted by MReyn24050 (Post 7709826)
Safe/armed does indeed suggest military (indeed, not just military, but combat)

Correct again. :)


Originally Posted by MReyn24050 (Post 7709826)
That has to date it, I guess...


Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 7709872)
Is it still in-service,or is it a museum-piece..?

Nope, it doesn't have to date.
It's definitely still in-service. Pic taken by a buddy of mine, at an airshow we were involved in, a few years back.


Originally Posted by MReyn24050 (Post 7709826)
What is the member coming in towards the camera? A stab with Phantom-like anhedral?

No. Not a stab.
The pic is close-up (or zoomed in, at last).
[edit] see below my answer to Noyade, too.


Originally Posted by MReyn24050 (Post 7709826)
PS: AZR, you could really upset some Lynx pilots I know with those remarks!

I'm sure about that. :p But I still can't say "fast mover" about any chopper in town. The beer is on me: I can't be that bad. :cool:

Noyade 22nd Feb 2013 22:08

Mel.
Sorry to see your sticky gone - lotta work went into that. You coping OK?


Is it French?

AlphaZuluRomeo 22nd Feb 2013 22:15

Noyade, you're right when you hope (fuselage) but a bit far with the drawing (however impressive the skills it shows :ok:).

No red star, for example. :=

[edit]

Originally Posted by Noyade (Post 7709899)
Is it French?

Je pense bien !

MReyn24050 22nd Feb 2013 22:20

Dassault Rafale.

Sorry Graeme. The award should go to you. The thread is still there I just have to update it but it has lost it's stickiness.

http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c6...ps84c67fee.jpg

Noyade 22nd Feb 2013 22:33

Well done Mel.

I had a look at some modern jet cutaways and went past the Rafale. It wasn't much use....:)

http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/9295/img740s.jpg

Glad you still got your lists! :)

AlphaZuluRomeo 22nd Feb 2013 22:34

Indeed, MReyn24050 :D

Your topic (or Graeme's, it's up to you) :)

The original (colour) pic (just resized):
http://www.bakes.fr/_AlphaZuluRomeo/PICT7055.jpg

The aircraft, Rafale B #335 @ LFOT in 2009.
http://www.bakes.fr/_AlphaZuluRomeo/PICT7085.jpg


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