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Chris Scott 16th Feb 2017 08:17

jensdad is correct! Turnhouse in 1966:

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...pssilutyo9.jpg

The main runway was designated 13/31, with 13 having Turnhouse's only ILS. (Some of us cut our insstrument-rating teeth flying it in a 2000-foot wind of 270/30-40...)** It is now designated 12/30. The civil apron can be seen on the right of the photo, and is still used. Rwy 26, with its final approach over a down-sloping golf course, is closed. The apron in the middle of the photo, with a black hangar to its left, may have belonged to Ferranti?

In the background, today, would be the current main runway, 06/24, with an ILS on both ends. That was built in the 1970s, and originally designated 07/25. Careful inspection of the Google satellite-view reveals the residual mark "7"under the "6" of the "06" at the runway threshold.

For those who've never been there to admire it, here's the view to the left on Finals to what is now Rwy 12:

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...psovybhwgu.jpg

DaveReidUK 16th Feb 2017 09:54


Originally Posted by Chris Scott (Post 9677765)
The apron in the middle of the photo, with a black hangar to its left, may have belonged to Ferranti?

It did indeed. They used to operate some interesting aircraft from Turnhouse in those days, including 3 Canberras, a civil-registered Meteor and a Dakota with a Lightning radar nose.

sycamore 16th Feb 2017 10:10

What a/c was the last pic. taken from...?

DaveReidUK 16th Feb 2017 10:21


Originally Posted by sycamore (Post 9677857)
What a/c was the last pic. taken from...?

That vicious-looking wing fence could only belong to a One-Eleven.

BUA, presumably, judging from the location and the era.

Chris Scott 16th Feb 2017 11:29

Yes, both photos taken on the "Inter-Jet" from Airwick Gatport one early-summer's day in 1966, at a ticket price of about £5 if memory serves. BUA was the launch customer for the 1-11, which had only been in service about 12 months. Despite the handicap of being based at LGW, the Inter-Jet services to EDI and GLA proved popular with businessmen. Hot meals were served, whereas you were lucky to get a sandwich on the BEA Vanguard from LHR.

kcockayne 16th Feb 2017 11:49

Yes, I am wrong. I was there in '73-'74 & the mists of time have addled my brain ! I think I must have got EGPH 26 confused with EGPD 24 (where I was from '76 - 78). At my age, all these runways seem the same !

Chris Scott 16th Feb 2017 12:02

Yes, so much simpler in the single-runway CIs... ;)

jensdad 16th Feb 2017 23:15

I thought I recognised that runway that ends abruptly where it crosses 12/30! Really interesting to see the complete photo. The main apron was miniscule.


Open House.

India Four Two 17th Feb 2017 00:30


That vicious-looking wing fence could only belong to a One-Eleven.

BUA, presumably, judging from the location and the era.
Dave, never mind the wing fence - what are those bulbous objects on the trailing edge? Special drag-inducing bullets? :)

I had a quick look at GE to see if those fields are still there and was surprised to see that they mostly are, but I also noticed that you were probably on a downwind leg, rather than final. ;)

DaveReidUK 17th Feb 2017 07:06


Originally Posted by India Four Two (Post 9678604)
Dave, never mind the wing fence - what are those bulbous objects on the trailing edge? Special drag-inducing bullets?

On the contrary, they're "speed bullets" à la Coronado, to reduce drag as the aircraft approaches Mach 1. :O

Joking aside, I would imagine the canoes are flap track/screwjack fairings - I didn't have much to do with One-Elevens when I used to play with aeroplanes as BA's rarely came to LHR.


I had a quick look at GE to see if those fields are still there and was surprised to see that they mostly are, but I also noticed that you were probably on a downwind leg, rather than final.
It's Chris's photo, not mine, but it's definitely taken from an aircraft on finals for 13, having completed its procedure turn after overflying the airport. The diagonal road is the old B800 between Kirkliston and South Queensferry, with Milton Farm on the extreme left.

Chris Scott 17th Feb 2017 20:59

Quotes from India Four Two:
"I also noticed that you were probably on a downwind leg, rather than final."

Do try to pay attention, double-oh-seven... :ugh:

And:
"Dave, never mind the wing fence - what are those bulbous objects on the trailing edge? Special drag-inducing bullets?"

'Sixties boat fairings, as Dave says, which evolved into what you see on Airbuses today. Don't know why they were so rounded at the trailing edge though. As no one has produced another aerodrome yet, but at risk of competing with the "Which aircraft?" thread, this photo was taken from another 1-11/200 a few days earlier, while taxiing for take-off at Turnhouse with, from the look of it, 8-deg of flap set:

http://i1104.photobucket.com/albums/...pscuwzeeua.jpg

dixi188 18th Feb 2017 16:28

Early 1-11s had flap track fairings that moved with the flap as per the photo.
Later ones from the 500srs on, except the 510s of BEA had a fixed fairing with a more pointed aft end.

Heathrow Harry 19th Feb 2017 09:19

lets try an easy one for a Sunday................

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184...re571-5548.jpg

Heathrow Harry 19th Feb 2017 13:22

P- LEASE!!!!!!

Teeside International these days.........

over to you

chevvron 19th Feb 2017 14:18


Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry (Post 9680980)
P- LEASE!!!!!!

Teeside International these days.........

over to you

Last I heard it was 'Durham Tees Valley Airport' but that was last week!

Heathrow Harry 19th Feb 2017 15:21

HMS Ark Royal (R09)?

kcockayne 19th Feb 2017 16:08

HMS Bulwark ?

Heathrow Harry 19th Feb 2017 17:09

HMS Eagle?

DaveReidUK 19th Feb 2017 19:31


Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry (Post 9681164)
HMS Eagle?

Definitely.

Airclues 19th Feb 2017 21:51


I will answer should there be a stab at the 'field.
RAF Maseira?

Heathrow Harry 20th Feb 2017 07:48

tough to tell Eagle and the Ark apart on that picture Jenkins....

I shall retire to the archives and try and find another one that lasts more than 12 hours - over to Airclues!!

Airclues 20th Feb 2017 08:59

Computer on a 'go slow' so if HH doesn't post then Open House.

Dave

nvubu 20th Feb 2017 12:04

I've got one ready if you want me to post it.

Heathrow Harry 20th Feb 2017 12:06

Warp factor 9 Mr Sulu!!

nvubu 20th Feb 2017 12:08

here we go then
https://piybpg.bl3301.livefilestore....&cropmode=none

Heathrow Harry 20th Feb 2017 12:46

Lot of yankee cars to be SE Asia - I thought McGill or Florida?

nvubu 20th Feb 2017 14:33

Wrong neck of the woods with Florida. You need to define SE Asia.

Heathrow Harry 20th Feb 2017 15:41

well I'd now guess we're looking possibly at the Vietnam era - so let's try Don Muang?

albatross 20th Feb 2017 15:44

Subic Bay? OH if correct.

Heathrow Harry 20th Feb 2017 15:57

Helicopter is almost certainly US - prob some sort of S-61? Could be a Super Frelon but doesn't look bulky enough.. strike aircaraft with folding wings = naval design = almost certainly US produced (given the apparent age of the picture) maybe A-6's..............

nvubu 20th Feb 2017 16:00

Don't you just hate it when you're searching around and someone names it straight away :ok:

albatross has it - it's USS Constellation at NAS Cubi Point, Subic Bay.

Couple of other shots that I had lined up:
https://yep3jg.bl3301.livefilestore....&cropmode=none


https://lnbqgw.bl3301.livefilestore....&cropmode=none



I thought this went well with Jenkins' posting.

OPEN HOUSE

DaveReidUK 20th Feb 2017 16:52


Originally Posted by Heathrow Harry (Post 9682194)
Helicopter is almost certainly US - prob some sort of S-61? Could be a Super Frelon but doesn't look bulky enough

Sikorsky HH-53.

Heathrow Harry 20th Feb 2017 16:54

Against my better judgement here's another one

http://www.pprune.org/members/326184...573-130247.jpg

DaveReidUK 20th Feb 2017 17:54

Is that red blob a fire engine or an errant Red Arrow ? :O

Heathrow Harry 20th Feb 2017 18:29

I doubt it's a Red Arrow and it's definitely NOT Postman Pat...........................

chevvron 21st Feb 2017 08:24

Turnhouse before runway 06/24?

Heathrow Harry 21st Feb 2017 11:07

no but it is european................

WIDN62 21st Feb 2017 12:48

It looks a bit like Bonn-Hangelar so, is it Germany?

Heathrow Harry 21st Feb 2017 14:06

nooooooo - small airport but connects to 13 other destinations (alledgedly)

jensdad 21st Feb 2017 23:37

Sounds like it could be one of those low-cost destinations in the middle of nowhere. Bergerac?


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