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Old 9th Nov 2023, 08:53
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Soil looks the wrong colour for Germany; maybe Spain or France?
Very flat countryside.
4 sets of 'touchdown zone' markings (presumably the fixed distance marking with a further set of TDZ are out of shot at the bottom of the photo) mean a runway of 10,000ft or more.
Buildings left of shot appear to be in a line parallel to the runway so maybe there was a parallel taxyway.
Course if it's in the former USSR I could be talking b0ll0cks!

Having said the above, my posting crossed with Mac's response so I'll have to modify my guess about soil type to former East Germany.
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Originally Posted by chevvron
Soil looks the wrong colour for Germany; maybe Spain or France?
Very flat countryside.
4 sets of 'touchdown zone' markings (presumably the fixed distance marking with a further set of TDZ are out of shot at the bottom of the photo) mean a runway of 10,000ft or more.
Buildings left of shot appear to be in a line parallel to the runway so maybe there was a parallel taxyway.
Course if it's in the former USSR I could be talking b0ll0cks!

Having said the above, my posting crossed with Mac's response so I'll have to modify my guess about soil type to former East Germany.
You guys are just too good ....yes it is in the former East Germany.
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Sperenberg?
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Sperenberg?
Correct.........Sperenberg just to the South of Berlin and was the main transport base for all of the Soviet forces in the former East Germany, which is why it was a very busy place up until the mid 1990s, as it was one of the last bases to shut following the withdrawal of the Russian/Soviet forces in East Germany

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wasn't that the place they thought was going to be the new Berlin Airport??

Lots of parking space from the looks of it
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Thanks Mac. There are some very good sites with pictures of old cold war airfields.

Now for this:



Complete with sheds, trees, light poles and a fence.
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Old 9th Nov 2023, 15:31
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Originally Posted by Asturias56
wasn't that the place they thought was going to be the new Berlin Airport??

Lots of parking space from the looks of it
Yes, it would have made a good new Berlin airport, as it was a massive base, had a railway link and was not located in any major areas of population meaning that the flightpaths would not be anywhere near any major population areas. Also a reasonably good road link, that could have been improved easily. Instead the Germans chose to build on/extend the site of the old East Berlin airport at Schönefeld which might have been seen as the easier option but didn't go too well...

Getting back to the old Soviet bases in East Germany, I couldn't resist, back in the early 1990s, making a few trips out to the bases to take some photos [I really must get around to digitising my old 35mm slides] but to give you an idea of how everything had literally fallen apart in East Germany, this page gives an idea of what we were met with...https://robdebie.home.xs4all.nl/vvs-ddr/airbases.htm
The base mentioned with the MiG-23 landing very low over the road had a Russian soldier in a control box manning a set of traffic control lights to stop cars when an aircraft was landing. Shortly after our arrival he came out waving his arms to say 'no photos' which he promptly forgot about after we gave him a six-pack of German lager and he happily went back to his box. It was only at the end of the day we noticed the lights weren't changing on landing that someone noticed he was fast asleep in the box surrounded by the empty beer cans


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Originally Posted by ea200
Thanks Mac. There are some very good sites with pictures of old cold war airfields.

Now for this:



Complete with sheds, trees, light poles and a fence.
Cancun, Mexico?
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Not Cancun and not in Mexico I'm afraid.
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Lots of poles holding up wires

N America?
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North America it is.
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Miami Int?
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Old 10th Nov 2023, 13:31
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Impossible to tell from that photo - could be anywhere without another clue

there's a street sign in front of the building on the left but no chance of reading it - and both Canada and the USA have similar street furniture - don't think it's St Pierre & Miquelon either
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Not any of those places. For those looking for white control towers, that thing in the background is something else. Although this airfield does have a white control tower. If you can work out what it is, it maybe a useful clue. It dates back to an earlier time.
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A better picture of the white tower.



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Old 10th Nov 2023, 17:23
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Looks like a very large hangar
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Somewhere hot and dusty, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico?
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Not in any of those States.
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The control tower



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Is the other tower for drying fire hoses?
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