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Old 29th Apr 2023, 08:29
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You are right, Noyade,
Over to you.
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Old 29th Apr 2023, 22:58
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Originally Posted by teusje
It's first flight was about 1,5 year later than the SF.260.
Thanks teusje. A rough idea of the year involved is always helpful.



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Old 1st May 2023, 02:11
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1966 again.
Only two built.
Al Mooney assisted in the design.
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Old 1st May 2023, 07:54
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Those wings look a bit short!
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Old 2nd May 2023, 16:23
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Piper Arapaho?
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Old 3rd May 2023, 04:25
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Not from Piper.
Wingspan is 28' 6".
Flying magazine says there was less than 30mm between the prop-tips and fuselage.
Aerofiles reasons for non-manufacture include -
poor single-engine performance, stall speeds too high, climb speeds too low, and engine nacelles set to close, according to Al Mooney, who was a consultant.
Company creator was a WW2 pilot whose surname is shared with a Simpsons character who owns a nuclear power plant.

Very prominent T-tail on a rotund fuselage.





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Old 3rd May 2023, 06:44
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The Simpsons clue led me to the Burns BA-42.



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Old 4th May 2023, 05:41
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That's him.
All yours Simon.
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Old 5th May 2023, 03:20
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Thanks Noyade. An interesting aircraft that I had never heard of.

How about this one?


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Old 5th May 2023, 08:38
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Big aeroplane!

It was on fb a few days ago!Same photo! I have no replacement so will keep quite!It had a large nosewheel!
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Originally Posted by oldpax
It had a large nosewheel!



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Old 7th May 2023, 02:52
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Noyade seems to have successfully followed up the trail of the giant nosewheel. Do you want to ID it?



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Old 7th May 2023, 08:25
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It's huge! What could be the reason for such a large nosewheel? Availability of such a part from another aircraft type?
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Old 7th May 2023, 09:00
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Looks like the German 'New York' bomber but a lot smaller; Messerschmitt Me 264?
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Old 7th May 2023, 10:15
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Originally Posted by washoutt
It's huge! What could be the reason for such a large nosewheel? Availability of such a part from another aircraft type?
designed by Dunlop?
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Old 7th May 2023, 12:38
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Big low pressure tyre to allow a heavy aircraft to operate from grass?
Or maybe just poor quality rubber preventing reliable high-pressure tyres. We targeted Germany's rubber supplies quite effectively as they were critical to the war effort.
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Old 7th May 2023, 15:29
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Yes, the Me 264 - one of the Amerikabomber candidates.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messerschmitt_Me_264

washoutt, if you think the nose wheel is large, look at the main wheels!

meleagertoo, I think you are probably right. I was surprised to discover that it had a wing loading of 73 lb/sq. ft, which was 6% higher than a B-29.
The relatively high wing loading caused poor climb performance, loss of manoeuvrability, stability and high take-off and landing speeds.
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Old 7th May 2023, 15:41
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Open House.
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Old 7th May 2023, 19:20
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Germany wasn't alone in using monstrous tyres.

Brabazon


Comet 1


Comet IV

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Old 8th May 2023, 00:38
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The Beardmore Inflexible trumps the Brab!




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