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Old 3rd Oct 2019, 16:15
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Thanks dook, let's try this one!

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Something about that says American.

Either one engine or none.
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Old 3rd Oct 2019, 16:57
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Originally Posted by dook
Something about that says American.

Either one engine or none.
Not American and one engine
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Old 3rd Oct 2019, 17:09
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Possibly Gypsy engines on the one in the background.

British ?
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Yes, it is British

However, the engine is American!

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Old 3rd Oct 2019, 18:33
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Is that engine at the front or on a high wing ?

It seems to have no doors, but do they open upwards ?

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Originally Posted by dook
Is that engine at the front or on a high wing ?

It seems to have no doors, but do they open upwards ?
Engine up front and doors open forward, I'll pan the view to show the engine and door with pocket


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Old 3rd Oct 2019, 19:08
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I did think it's a prop blade top left in your original but wasn't sure.

I've spent a long time on F Archive to no avail.
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Originally Posted by dook
I did think it's a prop blade top left in your original but wasn't sure.

I've spent a long time on F Archive to no avail.
Oh dear!! I thought I'd try a different source but it did come from a site that uses a lot of FA copy
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Old 3rd Oct 2019, 19:32
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That nose wheel looked very familiar. After a bit of searching, how about the Chryslea Super Ace?

On second thoughts, just the Ace?


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Old 3rd Oct 2019, 19:46
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Was this designed by J.H.Payne ?
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Hi I-42

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That nose wheel looked very familiar. After a bit of searching, how about the Chryslea Super Ace?

On second thoughts, just the Ace?
Yes, it is indeed the Lycoming powered prototype Chryslea CH-3 Ace !! Well found

I rather thought it might be the novel control wheels rather than the nosewheel that would be its undoing!

The system wasn't well received and they soon reverted to more conventional controls!



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Old 3rd Oct 2019, 20:07
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Thank you, Sinco.

Besides the novel control wheel, there was an issue with the fin and rudder, which I discovered during my research:

The large cabin, around which the aircraft had largely been designed, created turbulent airflow which tended to blanket the tail surfaces at low speeds. Test pilot Rex Stedman had considerable difficulty making turns during early flights.

Within three weeks of its first flight the Ace had been fitted with twin fins and rudders and the dihedral of the wings had been reduced.
Nothing immediately available so Open House
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I don't think I would have found that.
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Old 3rd Oct 2019, 20:12
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Off topic.

Is this the original flying car ?


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Old 3rd Oct 2019, 20:23
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Originally Posted by dook
Was this designed by J.H.Payne ?
According to Wikipedia it was designed by R.C. Christoforides and it was in the FA, but not where I originally found it

https://www.flightglobal.com/FlightP...20-%201596.PDF
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Smartass !...
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Old 3rd Oct 2019, 20:27
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I don't think I would have found that.
I don't think I would have wanted to fly it!
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Weird wasn't it. No pilot would have designed that surely.
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I have a challenge ready but it's probably better to wait for someone else.
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