DAMBUSTERS (Film) Remake - 2009
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(A bit off topic, I wish he had decided to do a film of Len Deighton's "Bomber" or some other film which gave an accurate view of the sheer grind and effort of the bomber war. But good luck with the film anyway).
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Of course there was the wartime ' Target for Tonight' but I'm trying to think of commercial releases after the war.
The TV series 'Pathfinder' was good though.
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I mentioned the remake of the film to one of the 617 Squadron Association members and he was somewhat concerned about what he had heard so far. It seems that the producer (David Frost) is considering introducing a lot more "human interest stories" into the script.
I am reminded of the old phrase:
"No man is a hero to his valet" ...and wonder what they will drag up.
I am reminded of the old phrase:
"No man is a hero to his valet" ...and wonder what they will drag up.
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It seems that the producer (David Frost) is considering introducing a lot more "human interest stories" into the script.
I dare say it won't be as bad a film as 'Pearl Harbor' and live in hope...
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If the Dog is to be left out because some PC Plonkers dont like his name, then it would be as well if the Avro Lancasters were left out also, after all they killed Jerrys. Krauts, the Hun or the enemy.
The name of the dog was also the name of a certain colour of dark Brown in the tin of watercolours given to me by the Yorkshire Education Committee who looked after all the needs of children being educated in that fair County, when I sent my first born to school in Lancashire, the Lancashire education Authority gave out similar watercolour boxes, and the same named colour was there.
I have employed Afro Carribs in my past business's and they all refer to each other as " Hey Nig" or "Hey Bro", so I do not think there would be one compliant from the genuine Afro Black people who might see such a film, the dog was called Nigger, it was a reference to its colour, as was the tin of watercolour paints I received from the Yorkists!!
Have some balls, and stop letting do gooders and leftists ruin what is left of our proud Country!!
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The name of the dog was also the name of a certain colour of dark Brown in the tin of watercolours given to me by the Yorkshire Education Committee who looked after all the needs of children being educated in that fair County, when I sent my first born to school in Lancashire, the Lancashire education Authority gave out similar watercolour boxes, and the same named colour was there.
I have employed Afro Carribs in my past business's and they all refer to each other as " Hey Nig" or "Hey Bro", so I do not think there would be one compliant from the genuine Afro Black people who might see such a film, the dog was called Nigger, it was a reference to its colour, as was the tin of watercolour paints I received from the Yorkists!!
Have some balls, and stop letting do gooders and leftists ruin what is left of our proud Country!!
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Lefties, do-gooders and those who don't know !!
If I said "WOG" outloud in the street I would probably be arrested.
Pure ignorance - it is not derogatory.
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Pure ignorance - it is not derogatory.
Worthy Oriental Gentlemen
Pure ignorance - it is not derogatory.
However, Nigger is a tad different wouldn't you say?
And as for using a pitifull excuse that it describes a colour in a paint box!
Did the paint makers get it off a stone wall? No they didn't did they.
If the film is to be accurate then IMO Nigger it is.
But please don't hide behind the "the leftie pc brigade won't let me play" banner.
To a person who is of a certain ethnic background it is extremely offensive for certain other people to use the word Nigger. It was always so, it's just that now the guy in the WhiteHouse may be a bit more likely to say more than yeees maaasir in reply. Quite rightly. Accept it.
Back to the thread...
Very impressive CGI of the Lancs. If P. Jackson can recreate Middle Earth from text and drawings I'm sure a real life action should be no bother.
Can't wait.
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denis555 pointed out.....
"Although the USAAF was depicted on typical operations ( Twelve O'Clock High and The War Lover for example ) I cannot think of a film that depicts day-to-day Bomber Command operations ( except as a backdrop )."
What about "Appointment in London"? Plenty of action - aircraft and actors/actresses.
The Lancasters were used in The Dambusters 3 years later. Also the odd Lincoln appears in the background.
"Although the USAAF was depicted on typical operations ( Twelve O'Clock High and The War Lover for example ) I cannot think of a film that depicts day-to-day Bomber Command operations ( except as a backdrop )."
What about "Appointment in London"? Plenty of action - aircraft and actors/actresses.
The Lancasters were used in The Dambusters 3 years later. Also the odd Lincoln appears in the background.
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Lou Scannon said.....
"It seems that the producer (David Frost) is considering introducing a lot more "human interest stories" into the script."
David Frost is an Executive Producer which means he does very little but probably finds some seed money...........
Producers [who find the main money and engage scriptwriters, artists, director and talk to /make deals with distributors..... ie they work long and hard] are Peter Jackson and Carolynn Cunningham and Jan Blenkin.
"It seems that the producer (David Frost) is considering introducing a lot more "human interest stories" into the script."
David Frost is an Executive Producer which means he does very little but probably finds some seed money...........
Producers [who find the main money and engage scriptwriters, artists, director and talk to /make deals with distributors..... ie they work long and hard] are Peter Jackson and Carolynn Cunningham and Jan Blenkin.
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Surely the final version will be Captain 'Chuck' Gibson, played by Ben Affleck, of the USAAF flying a lone B17, inverted, under power cables and through dutch barns, to the Mohne, Eder, Sorpe and Lippe dams via the Alps and Sahara Desert, having shot down 223 x Me 109s and FW 190s with his Colt 45, to launch 4 x under-wing, secret US Navy patented super-bouncy torpedoes, one at each dam which results in the flooding of Berlin and the sweeping away of the glorious Red Army on the outskirts and we win both wars, World War II and the Cold one (Adolf actually drowns but they fake his suicide 'cos it looks better).
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Not any Yanks that I have met.
They couldn't have won it without us and we certainly could not have won it without them.
Any arguments? It is and always has been a stupid comment. Still, there ya go !
They couldn't have won it without us and we certainly could not have won it without them.
Any arguments? It is and always has been a stupid comment. Still, there ya go !
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The Dambusters
Hi lads .. Just thought you might like to hear a side story re the above.
Around 1993/94 I was tasked to fly Richard Todd up to Derwent Water for a commemorative event at the site where the original 617 crews practiced for the Dams operation.
On arrival I was cleared to do a practice bombing run for him albeit the humble Jetranger hardly represented the mighty Lanc. Either way the great actor was suitably impressed as the dam wall zipped the statutary 60 feet beneath us.
The Reds put on their standard fab display and a 617 Tornado also blasted through the valley with lots of knots on.
On the return flight I had the chance to chat to Mr Todd and the subject of GG's Labrador came up. Even in those days ... he told me ... some far sighted PC soul in production was querying the use of the Nigger name. So what happens on today's repeat showings I wonder?
A similar situation to one of the Fawlty Towers episodes where the 'Major' explains to Basil the difference between the cricketing Niggers and the Wogs. Sadly the excerpt comes across quite badly these days, but judging from the audience laughter in 1975 it must have been deemed acceptable.
I'd have to say I have some mighty good African pilot friends and the use of the N word offends me now. However 'Honkey' or 'Whitey' doesn't.
Sorry to drift a tad off topic.
Safe flying to all.
Dennis Kenyon.
Around 1993/94 I was tasked to fly Richard Todd up to Derwent Water for a commemorative event at the site where the original 617 crews practiced for the Dams operation.
On arrival I was cleared to do a practice bombing run for him albeit the humble Jetranger hardly represented the mighty Lanc. Either way the great actor was suitably impressed as the dam wall zipped the statutary 60 feet beneath us.
The Reds put on their standard fab display and a 617 Tornado also blasted through the valley with lots of knots on.
On the return flight I had the chance to chat to Mr Todd and the subject of GG's Labrador came up. Even in those days ... he told me ... some far sighted PC soul in production was querying the use of the Nigger name. So what happens on today's repeat showings I wonder?
A similar situation to one of the Fawlty Towers episodes where the 'Major' explains to Basil the difference between the cricketing Niggers and the Wogs. Sadly the excerpt comes across quite badly these days, but judging from the audience laughter in 1975 it must have been deemed acceptable.
I'd have to say I have some mighty good African pilot friends and the use of the N word offends me now. However 'Honkey' or 'Whitey' doesn't.
Sorry to drift a tad off topic.
Safe flying to all.
Dennis Kenyon.
I mentioned the remake of the film to one of the 617 Squadron Association members and he was somewhat concerned about what he had heard so far. It seems that the producer (David Frost) is considering introducing a lot more "human interest stories" into the script.
I am reminded of the old phrase:
"No man is a hero to his valet" ...and wonder what they will drag up.
I am reminded of the old phrase:
"No man is a hero to his valet" ...and wonder what they will drag up.
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Hmmm: The Great Escape - seems to me the leader MR X was a "colonial" not a Yank.
Visited the National Air Space Museum in Washington DC at Dulles - the WW2 exhibit starts in 1941? Hello?
Look at any recently published book on WW2 - pre Dec 1941 does not count - even the Desert War was won by the Americans.
The Dambusters should be interesting but how about something about the real backs to the wall stuff - 80 Sqn in Greece for example or the exploits of John Upham or Paddy Mayne.
Visited the National Air Space Museum in Washington DC at Dulles - the WW2 exhibit starts in 1941? Hello?
Look at any recently published book on WW2 - pre Dec 1941 does not count - even the Desert War was won by the Americans.
The Dambusters should be interesting but how about something about the real backs to the wall stuff - 80 Sqn in Greece for example or the exploits of John Upham or Paddy Mayne.
Why, before the word acquired 'baggage' would it be any more unreasonable to call a person form the area of the Niger Delta 'Nigger', than it would be to call a person from the Taff Valley, 'Taffy'. And why can we call someone from Birmingham a Brumie, someone from Scotland a Scot and someone from Denmark a Dane, but if you call a person from Pakistan a Paki, you'd be probably be prosecuted.
I think Guy Gibson would be totally confused.
I think Guy Gibson would be totally confused.