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Old 5th Sep 2008, 20:48
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Sorry daz not the Aviamilano P.19 Scricciolo.
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Mel, could it be the Polish Utva 213?
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Sorry Richard this aircraft was not Polish although you are closer to the country of manufacture. The prototype first flew mid 1950s
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Old 5th Sep 2008, 22:25
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OK, final offering for this challenge and before I go to bed. How about the Zlin Trener?

A number of versions were produced, starting with the Z-26. The version in the challenge could be the Z-326 version with the retractable undercarriage.

I did not offer it before as I thjought that we had already had this model, i was mistaken.

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Richard, you are in the right country but it is not a Zlin aircraft. The engine is as Bri suggested a Czech built horizontally-opposed 'Doris-B' engine.
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Was the aircraft also built by CKD-Praga?
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I don't think it was built by CKD-Praga, but you are in the right country.
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Well we seem to have reached a stalemate on this one time for a re-cap.
It was built in Czechoslovakia. It was powered by a horizontally-opposed 'Doris-B' engine. The prototype first flew 1956 and the production model flew a year later. It is reported that it went into production for the Czech Air Force but I am unable to confirm that.
A regular contender of this quiz has identified the aircraft.
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Old 7th Sep 2008, 15:51
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Mel, do you mean the silhouette has been identified through a PM? The mystery aircraft must have turned in to an embarrassment, because the manufacturer seems to have buried all data associated with the bird.
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C.Z.A.L. L-60 Brygadyr perchance?
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Speedpig not the C.Z.A.L. L-60 Brygadyr I am afraid.
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Mel, do you mean the silhouette has been identified through a PM? The mystery aircraft must have turned in to an embarrassment, because the manufacturer seems to have buried all data associated with the bird.
No it was not identified by PM but by RETDPI in the pun he posted at Post# 575
Perhaps I'd better be let off of that too mate!
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The aircraft was the silhouette of the Letov TOM-8 and was from The Observer's Book Of Aircraft 1958 edition.

The remains of a TOM-8 can be found at the Technical Museum Brno.
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The aircraft is also listed in the Probert Aircraft Encyclopaedia.
I am sure RETDPI will agree it is Open House.
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Old 7th Sep 2008, 19:22
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Mel, does your book say it was built by Letov? Probert's has it listed under TOM, and says it was developed by VTLU (Miltary Aviation Technical Institue) Perhaps it was built in the Letov plant...?
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Yes Bri, The Observer's Book of Aircraft does say the aircraft was from Letov, it gives the designer as Karel Thomach. It goes onto say
...was flown for the first time on April 23.1956 and this trainer is now in quantity production for the Czechoslovak Air Force and will possibly be offered for export. The first production Tom-8 trainers, manufactured by the former Letov company , were delivered in 1957.
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Thanks for putting me out of my misery Mel, it was an excellent challenge, well done.

There is a colour photograph of the TOM-8 on the Virtual Aviation Museum site. However, they call it an Avia Tom 8. The aircraft in the photograph in in the Letecke Muzeum in Praha Kbely.

http://www.luftfahrtmuseum.com/htmi/ii/i015570.htm
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Richard thanks for that this aircraft seems to have had a number of manufacturers names. The photograph you posted shows the aircraft in Czech Air Force Markings, perhaps someone can inform us how many were produced.
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Old 7th Sep 2008, 21:32
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TOM-8

Doing some more digging I found the following (this is a translation from the Czech language):-
The prototype of a two-place aircraft by designer Ing. Tomas flew for the first time in April 1956. Let launched flight tests. Given the continuing difficulties in the development and taking into account the number flying the C-11 project was cancelled.
I believe that only two aircraft were built V-01 and OK-08.
Together with the "What Cockpit" thread this thread provides a wonderful platform to learn about unknown aircraft and aircraft development.
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Yes indeed! This forum is a superb source of aeronautical history and trivia. To keep the thread moving, here is the next silhouette:
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Absolutely! Another good challenge from Bri, Mel and Co. and a one to keep us guessing.

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Old 8th Sep 2008, 18:27
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Could not agree more about this being an excellent source of knowledge, I seem to learn something new with every challenge.

Mind you, this latest one has me stumped. I do not recall having seen anything like it before.
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Old 8th Sep 2008, 18:39
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I have changed my mind. I have just come across the Coandă - 1910. Built by Henri Coandă of Romania and exhibited in Paris in 1910. The first jet propelled aircraft ever built.

I said that I learn something from every challenge.

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