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Old 13th Nov 2011, 22:21
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Graeme. This one was not a combat aircraft but one designed for a special purpose within Germany and first flew mid 1920s.
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Udet U.11 Kondor ?

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Not the Udet U.11 Kondor, Bri. This aircraft was not for carrying passengers.
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Hmm..the mid 1920s Albatros L.72 was built to carry newspapers...would it be that aircraft ?
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There is a connection Bri as this aircraft entered service alongside the Albatros L.72.
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Junkers j29?
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Not the Junkers J.29, Kitbag. This one was a conventional single-bay biplane. Only one was built.
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Good evening Mel,

Nice set of clues! Is it the Heinkel HD 39 ??

Regret It'll have to an Open House if correct, as I'm back to work now!
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HI Trevor.
It is indeed the Heinkel H.39.

The Heinkel HD 39 was a special-purpose cargo aircraft developed in Germany in the 1920s to distribute the Berlin newspaper B.Z.. It was a conventional single-bay biplane with staggered wings of equal span, and a fuselage that nearly filled the interplane gap. The pilot sat in an open cockpit, and the undercarriage was of fixed, tailskid type with divided main units. The sole example of the type was built after Ernst Heinkel found out, by chance, that B.Z. required such an aircraft and had ordered two machines from Albatros. Heinkel convinced publisher Ullstein-Verlag to purchase a third aircraft from his firm.
The design was based on the HD 27 mail plane, and had a specially-designed payload bay to carry newspapers in 50 kg (110 lb) bundles. 10 separate compartments in the bay could be individually opened in flight in order to air-drop newspapers in places where the HD 39 could not land.
The HD 39 entered service alongside two Albatros L 72s in April 1926 and remained in Service until 1931, when distribution of B.Z. by air was taken over by Deutsche Luft Hansa.
As SincoTC declares Open House.
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Something more modern

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Interesting one India Four Two. The aircraft looks to be around 1950/60s vintage?
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Is it E European,a biplane ,twin engined ,fixed gear ...?
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Old 16th Nov 2011, 16:59
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Mel,

No, later than 50s/60s.

sycamore,

In sequence: No (but based on a design from there), no, yes, no.
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Possibly a VNS-41?
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Possibly a VNS-41?
Nothing possibly about it, sabredog. It's the VNS-41 microlight amphibian at the Hanoi Air Force Museum (with Uncle Ho's VIP Mi-4 in the background).




A friend of mine translated the sign for me:
AIRCRAFT VNS-41

On February 9, 2004, General Pham Van Tra Minister of Defense Ministry signed Decision no.175/QD-BQP to assign the VNAF to carry out a project
“ Build an amphibious microlight aircraft VNS-41”. This was a major project to celebrate the 60th anniversary of the Vietnamese Military Forces.

Project Manager : Colonel Doctor Vo Ta Que, Director of Aircraft Factory A-41
Deputy Project Manager: Colonel Doctor Vo Tri Thang , Manager of Aircraft Engine Research Dept. – Air Force Technical Institute.

The amphibious microlight aircraft VNS-41 was designed and manufactured for the purpose of forestry patrol, evacuation and training.
On December 9, 2004, aircraft VNS-41 no. 401 successfully performed its first test flight at Tri An Lake in Dong Nai province.
In 2005, the Minstry of Defense tasked the Vietnamese Air Force to improve airplane No.401 and manufacture four more aircraft.

The VNS-41 aircraft were used for training by the 916th Air Force Regiment.

Technical and tactical features: Height : 2.535m , length: 6.980m, windspread: 11.650m.
Weight: 528 kg, max.take off weight: 780kg, Crew: 2 persons, Max. speed: 115km/h,
Max altitude: 3000m. Amphibious aircraft.
Wikipedia states that it was derived from the Russian Che-22 "Korvet" microlight, and also that a Che-22 was imported from the Philippines,
so it is not clear if this example was actually built in Vietnam or was built from a kit via the Philippines. A41 Factory VNS-41 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

After a close look at it, I decided that this would be the second aircraft on my list of ones I would never want to fly - the other is the ASW-12 (for entirely different reasons).

sabredog, you have control.

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Thank you,Simon.
A very good challenge.
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Old 17th Nov 2011, 08:16
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sabredog,

Thank you. I have to say when I saw it lurking among the Migs, my first thought was "What Cockpit, here we come!"
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Okay, here is another mystery cockpit:
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Old 17th Nov 2011, 16:58
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Hendy 302 ?
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Terrence you are correct. The sleek and speedy (for 1929) Hendy 302. You have control.
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