MrBernoulli

I stated, long before 558 was restored to flying condition, that it couldn't last. It won't. That is just the way it is. At the very least, you cannot continue past the point where you run out of Vulcan experienced pilots (and engineers, too perhaps?). But the money will eventually not be there. An aircraft like this takes loads of cash to run, but you all know that. And the language of the regular begging comms have all the hallmarks of a con - threats about what will happen to the aircraft, "It will end up overseas!" - unless you cough up ..... again! It can't last folks, and it won't. Prepare yourselves for the bereavement. I like a noisy, spectacular aircraft at an air display just as much as the next man, but this one can't continue. Sad, but true. In the meantime your cash is being siphoned away .......

Dr Jekyll

Against stiff competition that has to be one of the arrogant and patronising posts ever seen on Pprune.

It's blindingly obvious to everybody that it will run out of money sooner or later, it's always been obvious. What we want to do is see it flying as long as possible.

Do you really think those of us who support the project imagined it would keep flying into the 22nd century and you are the only one who realised all such projects have a limited life? I'm pretty surprised it's kept going as long as it has.

Agaricus bisporus

As a matter of interest can anyone say how much this project has cost in total, and how many hours the aircraft has flown since it's resurrection?

sisemen

Dear Airshow Organiser,

If you want to see the Vulcan display at future airshows (yours included) then you will please allow my team to walk the crowd line collecting donations to keep the girl flying. The appearance of this aeroplane brings lots and lots of people to your show who wouldn't otherwise come and allows you to make some money. Think about it.

Yours sincerely, etc etc

It would appear that Pleming is to lateral thinking as brick is to floatation.

Agaricus bisporus

Why so coy with simple statistics? Is this a sensitive area?

andrewmcharlton

It's difficult to get a clear idea without all the accounts but as an off the cuff estimate, take the lottery funding at approx £2m and then the same again each year in cash / contributions and donations I would imagine.

Don't forget the value of the debt now secured on the aircraft to Mr Walton's business and to Marshalls for the purposes of calculation. I am sure someone has the numbers.....

Must be knocking on towards £11.5m so far. According to TVOC website t was £7m at return to flight and then 3 more years.

Call it a generous £11m for say 120 hours? £91,000 an hour....a snip.

Mike7777777

There is debt secured on XH 558?

andrewmcharlton

There are two charges on the aircraft. The first charge relates to monies due to Marshall Aerospace and the second to the former Brunty Landlord.

I'm not sure if this is with the agreement or acquiessence of HLF as it could in certain circumstances, depending on the nature of the charge lead to loss of ownership or the appointment of an administrator.

Sadly, no full details are published.

A2QFI

So, as 2011 is here where is the Vulcan and what is the financial situation? Will we see it flying anywhere this year?

echogolfc.d.

I do not post on here very often, but feel that I can answer the question raised; with some authority as I am an active volunteer fundraiser with the Trust & Club.

The Aircraft is currently based at her winter home which is a hangar at RAF Lynham and is currently undergoing her annual winter service.

Regarding finances I am not privy to any detailed answers concerning this. I do know that funds are, and always will be very tight. We receive no funding from government, department save that of gift aid for UK taxpayers donations, thus we need to raise money entirely from the generosity of the large numbers of supporters who love to see XH558 in the air and wish to do so for many years to come.

The best place to obtain upto date information is via our official website Home | Vulcan To The Sky. If you would like to help us keep this wonderful icon of British excellence in the air there are links that will show you many of the ways possible.
From my position as recycling co-ordinator I welcome used toners/inkjet cartridges and mobile phones from which we gain a regular and increasing income.
Please do not hesitate to contact me regarding this either via a pm on here or by email:- [email protected] thank you.
Subscribe to our online newletters, join the club, read our forum, all via home page.

Hope this information is usefull and Wishing all of you a very happy and prosperous new year.
DLW volunteer vttst/club.

bad bear

Anyone know where 558 will go when Lyneham closes in a few months?
bb

hurn

Doesn't Lyneham close sometime in 2012?

I'd guess that they'd mostly use Brize Norton again during the airshow season, but where they go after that is anyones guess.

dixi188

According to Wiki, Lyneham flying ends on 30 Sept. 2011.

echogolfc.d.

I have just looked on our website and there has been no information posted to date. If you log on to it goto club section and log on to the forum. Most parts are public domain but a few others are members only.
If you join the club you can have access to all of the topics posted.
The team put out regular news bulletins as well so I highly recommend the small investment.
Fund raising is a constant ongoing requirement, all donations however small are welcome.
Sorry I cannot give more info' but as soon as we know I will put a link on here.
Regards to all.
DLW. Volunteer and club member.

echogolfc.d.

Hi David,

The simple answer is, they need to go to our Home Page and subscribe to our
weekly newsletters Register | Vulcan To The Sky

Or, they can look under "latest news"


Cheers,
Ian.


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Home | Vulcan To The Sky
I sent an email to my supervisor earlier in reponse to your questions.
The above is in reply to it.
Hope it helps.
Regards

David Lee-Williams.
Volunteer fund raiser Vulcan to the Sky Trust and long term supporter of the programme.

QuestorPhil

One of the other enthusiast sites suggests that Wittering has been chosed as then next home for the Vulcan. Should be lots of spare hangar space!

A2QFI

If there is hangar space will it be provided free of charge? In any event, as Harrier flying stopped in December there would appear to be no need for ATC and crash services to be provided any longer.

echogolfc.d.

Please folks be patient and use the link I gave you earlier. This is the official site and when contracts etc are in place the newsletters will provide the information.
There is alot of speculation around at the moment but until things are finalised the Trust feel it is only right not to issue press releases/newsletters regarding this subject at the moment.
Patience is a virtue said my Granny (99 when she died). A very apposite way of handling things. (ref Santa claus if I remember rightly)
Regards David

hurn

Popular 'rumour' on the web seems to be a move to Wittering in April and operating from there during the summer. In which case I don't suppose they'd need a hangar, well not unless they plan on staying for the winter as well.

Obviously going for a more central location so it's easier to get to all those Northern shows!

Evanelpus

OOhhh, I hope so. Just down the road from Witt, so will see 558 come and go.