The Concorde thread (Don't start a separate one!)
Paxing All Over The World
It would seem that one of the best places to be at LHR is the Pink Elephant car park. Pay for half a day's parking and get a ringside seat. Get there early with plenty of sarnies and a large thermos!
I was in the area on Sunday evening and, seeing the signs warning of queues [and reading here] I went into the park. I saw 0002 arrive (beautifully) at the western extremity of the park and then went down the eastern end to wait for 0001's departure. Superb, shatteringly good as it was already dark and the reheat and the noise was magnificent. Both on 09L, it was perfect, no crowds.
There were many folks waiting the the 02 arrival but the parking people came around to check who had cars and chased out those that had just walked through the barriers. For the 01 departure, no one else was there. It was worth the money.
Having enjoyed the ride from the inside in August, I wanted to remind myself of what it was like on the outside!!
I was in the area on Sunday evening and, seeing the signs warning of queues [and reading here] I went into the park. I saw 0002 arrive (beautifully) at the western extremity of the park and then went down the eastern end to wait for 0001's departure. Superb, shatteringly good as it was already dark and the reheat and the noise was magnificent. Both on 09L, it was perfect, no crowds.
There were many folks waiting the the 02 arrival but the parking people came around to check who had cars and chased out those that had just walked through the barriers. For the 01 departure, no one else was there. It was worth the money.
Having enjoyed the ride from the inside in August, I wanted to remind myself of what it was like on the outside!!
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Concorde Times
Further to Idunno's request above, and apologies if they have been posted elsewhere, does anybody have the Edinburgh Arrival/Departure times for Friday's flight?
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Jerricho, word has is that HM has allowed for the Round House at Windsor to be floodlit, especially for the Dept to JFK on Thursday night.
This is her way of 'slauting' the bird that's saluted her so many times, as the Round House is only normally lit at offical state occasions.
What's the latest info about Concorde at EDI?
Jordan
This is her way of 'slauting' the bird that's saluted her so many times, as the Round House is only normally lit at offical state occasions.
What's the latest info about Concorde at EDI?
Jordan
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Jordan......if word has it, then far from it for me to believe otherwise (I was actually referring to speculation of the runway!). Thank you for "enlightening" me reference the Round House.
The weather forecast (although, we all know what an exact science Met is!!) for Thursday night is a NE blow, which looks to be swinging about to the NW sometime during Friday. I hate changing ends! We'll have to see what pans out, and how strong the wind is!
The weather forecast (although, we all know what an exact science Met is!!) for Thursday night is a NE blow, which looks to be swinging about to the NW sometime during Friday. I hate changing ends! We'll have to see what pans out, and how strong the wind is!
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Speedbird One Crew, Saturday 18 Oct
After reading back their take-off clearance, the crew of 001 paid tribute to those who had come to say goodbye.
This was grately appreciated by the hundreds of people gathered gathered in the chilly evening air near Hatton Cross to watch her depart, when it was relayed to them by those with radios -- most didn't seem to have scanners or be "aviation enthusiasts", they seemed to be members of the great British public, who simply wanted to be part, however small, of this piece of aviation history.
This sight -- and sound -- of four Olympuses (Olympi ?) on reheat disappearing into the darkening sky is one that will remain with me for a long time...
If anybody reading this is in contact with the crew, please let them know that their gesture was greatly appreciated by those present.
BristolRE
Yes, I noticed that too 
and I didn't think it was that windy...
[ Edited to add ]
Could Jerricho or somebody else in the know report at what sort of range can we expect them to be vectored on to the localiser ? (in either direction ?)
Thanks.
After reading back their take-off clearance, the crew of 001 paid tribute to those who had come to say goodbye.
This was grately appreciated by the hundreds of people gathered gathered in the chilly evening air near Hatton Cross to watch her depart, when it was relayed to them by those with radios -- most didn't seem to have scanners or be "aviation enthusiasts", they seemed to be members of the great British public, who simply wanted to be part, however small, of this piece of aviation history.
This sight -- and sound -- of four Olympuses (Olympi ?) on reheat disappearing into the darkening sky is one that will remain with me for a long time...
If anybody reading this is in contact with the crew, please let them know that their gesture was greatly appreciated by those present.
BristolRE
Did anyone see the unusual but impressive side to side approach of the BA002 over Windsor on Saturday afternoon.
and I didn't think it was that windy...[ Edited to add ]
Could Jerricho or somebody else in the know report at what sort of range can we expect them to be vectored on to the localiser ? (in either direction ?)
Thanks.
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It was Les Brodies last BA002 on Saturday and he was enjoying himself! Very choked up as was his FO on landing. It was really nice for the departing BA001 later on thanking everyone, very touching indeed!
One more ear drum roasting for me on Tuesday night before I go across to Denmark, and then the final ever one on the 17th of November
One more ear drum roasting for me on Tuesday night before I go across to Denmark, and then the final ever one on the 17th of November
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BA9021 CONCORDE TODAY!!!
**EXTRA CONCORDE FLIGHT ! ! !**
BA9021 GOING BHX-LHR etd 1515z eta LHR 1700z today.
Looks from the routing that its going round t'Bay of Biscay.
BA002 ETA 1619z LHR today.
BA9021 GOING BHX-LHR etd 1515z eta LHR 1700z today.
Looks from the routing that its going round t'Bay of Biscay.
BA002 ETA 1619z LHR today.
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RTFM
I'll try. The wind over the past couple of days has been kinda strong straight down the runway. Coupled with the fact that some of us LL controllers are crap at easterlies (well, I know I am!), we tend to run longer finals than normal (ideally, we like to be turning on about 12 miles out). Also, the fact our pointy friends are a little quicker than your average jet, we allow for a little extra room ahead of them on final approach. So, with the three of them in the sequence, it'll be kinda fun. If it's westerlies, if you were on the London Eye it could be an intersting show.
(Who knows, maybe a chance for a parallel?! But please don't quote me on that or get hopes up! Not sure on how it's going to be played!)
I'll try. The wind over the past couple of days has been kinda strong straight down the runway. Coupled with the fact that some of us LL controllers are crap at easterlies (well, I know I am!), we tend to run longer finals than normal (ideally, we like to be turning on about 12 miles out). Also, the fact our pointy friends are a little quicker than your average jet, we allow for a little extra room ahead of them on final approach. So, with the three of them in the sequence, it'll be kinda fun. If it's westerlies, if you were on the London Eye it could be an intersting show.
(Who knows, maybe a chance for a parallel?! But please don't quote me on that or get hopes up! Not sure on how it's going to be played!)
x, BA001 is indeed cancelled. I believe because BA don't have enough airworthy Concordes to operate the UK 'jollies' as well as the two JFK flights. BA002 is, however, speeding it's way home. The Birmingham flight is due in around 1745 I think.
[Edited to correct shoddy punctuation. Thanks strafer
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[Edited to correct shoddy punctuation. Thanks strafer
]
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Concorde EDI
Pubsman,
Concorde will be departing LHR at 1005 for 1145 arrival in Edinburgh then leaving again at 1420.
Does anybody know which approach this will be on - going to go out there in the camper van pretty early and hopefully get a good spot!
Cheers
Concorde will be departing LHR at 1005 for 1145 arrival in Edinburgh then leaving again at 1420.
Does anybody know which approach this will be on - going to go out there in the camper van pretty early and hopefully get a good spot!
Cheers
No doubt Skippy will be wondering why there's so much fuss being made about his murder of Concorde.
Well, you antipodean simpleton, it's because:
1. There are still people with pride alive in Blairland.
2. There is nothing as beautiful in the sky. As Andre Turcat's chase Meteor pilot said way back then on the first flight "You cannot know how beautiful you look"
3. Some things are simply intangible. Explain to your idiot beancounters what the term 'intangible asset' means....
......and a lot of people will never, ever fly ba again as a result. On principle. Because we're British and we're like that.
If I had ba shares (which fortunately I don't), I'd be selling them quick.
Well, you antipodean simpleton, it's because:
1. There are still people with pride alive in Blairland.
2. There is nothing as beautiful in the sky. As Andre Turcat's chase Meteor pilot said way back then on the first flight "You cannot know how beautiful you look"
3. Some things are simply intangible. Explain to your idiot beancounters what the term 'intangible asset' means....
......and a lot of people will never, ever fly ba again as a result. On principle. Because we're British and we're like that.
If I had ba shares (which fortunately I don't), I'd be selling them quick.
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Well they say there are only three certainties in life - birth, death and taxation. I'll like to add a fourth - BEagles anti-BA claptrap!
What absolute, unfounded, total garbage! As I stood amongst the 8000 strong crowd at BHX today to see the old bird for possibly the last time, did I hear people grumbling "I'll never fly BA again!"? Did I b******s! Did I hear all the pax connecting on to Concorde last week say "I'll never fly BA again because of what they did to Concorde!"? No again. Most people were glad it had lasted so long, which has largely been due to the influence of BA. For the umpteenth time on this forum, Airbus pulled the plug, not BA. The British public are not, as you seem to think, completely stupid. Even Branson has been rumbled in the current issue of 'The Economist', which reveals he only hoped to be able to run Concorde for a few months until Airbus pulled the plug.
As a well known BA-hater, it doesn't surprise me you don't have shares, but I doubt anyone will be following your investment advice and I don't think we'll be seeing the shares tumble come Monday morning.
......and a lot of people will never, ever fly ba again as a result. On principle. Because we're British and we're like that.
If I had ba shares (which fortunately I don't), I'd be selling them quick.
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Explain to your idiot beancounters what the term 'intangible asset' means....
>>>
I am on your side, so don't have a go at me, but I think you'll find the beancounters are only too good at explaining away the concept of intangible assets, as these represent a major part of any business and there are textbooks galore on the subject. Maybe this was your point.
Explain to your idiot beancounters what the term 'intangible asset' means....
>>>
I am on your side, so don't have a go at me, but I think you'll find the beancounters are only too good at explaining away the concept of intangible assets, as these represent a major part of any business and there are textbooks galore on the subject. Maybe this was your point.
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I think there are going to be more people there than BAA imagine. Myself and a mate are moderately interested in aviation in general and are flying down from Scotland just to see them land! If we are then a WHOLE LOAD of others are!!
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Hi, there,
Earlier on Taildragger67 mentioned that passengers who'd
booked BA001 for today (20th Oct) would be very disappointed
at it being cancelled. I think the schedule for that day (and 22nd
Oct) was withdrawn many weeks ago when BA decided on the
schedule for the UK farewell tour. I had downloaded their
timetable ages ago and noticed there was no BA001 for 20th or
22nd Oct.
So, 21st and 23rd are the last BA001's
Nothing would make me happier than if BA said they'd figured out
a way to keep some of them flying a scheduled passenger
service, or even if they could do several months of Bay of Biscay
flights, at least it would give us all a chance to fly on her.
ILC
Earlier on Taildragger67 mentioned that passengers who'd
booked BA001 for today (20th Oct) would be very disappointed
at it being cancelled. I think the schedule for that day (and 22nd
Oct) was withdrawn many weeks ago when BA decided on the
schedule for the UK farewell tour. I had downloaded their
timetable ages ago and noticed there was no BA001 for 20th or
22nd Oct.
So, 21st and 23rd are the last BA001's
Nothing would make me happier than if BA said they'd figured out
a way to keep some of them flying a scheduled passenger
service, or even if they could do several months of Bay of Biscay
flights, at least it would give us all a chance to fly on her.
ILC
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Well, I was in Windsor Great Park taking a few photos of Concorde today, both the BAW2 and BAW9621 (?) from EGBB, both landed within ten minutes. We were the only people there apart from one or two dog walkers who didn't even look up! I was expecting to have to fight for car parking space.
Shame. And fellow PPRuNer Yellow Snow didn't even say anything witty or poignant on the R/T!
Shame. And fellow PPRuNer Yellow Snow didn't even say anything witty or poignant on the R/T!