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Old 21st Oct 2003, 05:15
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24th October -Concorde or Chaos at Heathrow

After the recent Piccadilly Line derailment, is travelling to LHR by tube a good idea? Does anyone know if it's running again?
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Old 21st Oct 2003, 06:10
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(Who knows, maybe a chance for a parallel?! But please don't quote me on that or get hopes up! Not sure on how it's going to be played!)
Thanks, Jerricho, understood

Are any PPRuNers going to be manning the interesting positiosn at Heathrow or West Drayton on the day ?
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Old 21st Oct 2003, 15:20
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Hand solo - my 'anti-ba claptrap'?

Yes - I thouroughly detest the stink of the Marshall/King era and the fact that many of those named in the 'Dirty Tricks' scandal are still on the payroll.

And as for the premature death of Concorde wrought by ba, words fail me. For which, I know, you'll be grateful.

National flag carrier? Not since Ailing Bob's graffiti on the tails gave Richard Branson the chance to pick up the mantle.
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Old 21st Oct 2003, 15:50
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Just while we are mentioning Concorde and Bob Ayling, is the Christine Ayling who was a FA on board when I was making my farewell supersonic trip a couple of months ago his daughter? I never got round to asking.
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Old 21st Oct 2003, 17:22
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Edinburgh

Does anybody know what time the departure from Edinburgh is? I'm on the 18.10 Easyjet to Luton and I'm worried about getting caught up in the traffic.
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Old 21st Oct 2003, 17:57
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Gordon17 wrote:

Does anybody know what time the departure from Edinburgh is? I'm on the 18.10 Easyjet to Luton and I'm worried about getting caught up in the traffic.
1420 local, so should be nice and quiet around the airport when you're leaving.

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After the recent Piccadilly Line derailment, is travelling to LHR by tube a good idea? Does anyone know if it's running again?
The Metroploitan Line derailed at Hammersmith Station and the Northern Line at Camden Town. Not aware of any problems with the Picc. Transport for London - Tubes.
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Old 21st Oct 2003, 18:18
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have heard current estimates in the LHR area of upwards of 300,000 people, from all walks of life, spotters, enthusiasts, business men, famillies.. people who want to bid farewell to a piece of anglo-french History

I will be there, spending hours in traffic and on crowded tube trains, WHY.. to say farewell, to hear the Olympi engines, to smell the kerosine, to see the bird land,, WILL IT BE WORTH IT

erm...


YES !

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Old 21st Oct 2003, 18:24
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Thursday

I'm thinking of going up to see the last dep to JFK on thursday evening (1830 dep so what do you reckon, airborne around 1850?). Never seen her in the dusk so hopefully my last view will be the most spectacular...

Not too familiar with LHR but seeing as the Queen is going to salute Concorde with the floodlights on Windsor Castle (normally only reserved for state occasions) can I presume that unless there is a moderate wind to dictate otherwise the lovely bird will be departing 27R?

I really dont want to miss the last photo opportunity (although I'm thinking of taking the 17th Nov off!!!!!)

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Old 21st Oct 2003, 18:55
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Yes - I thouroughly detest the stink of the Marshall/King era and the fact that many of those named in the 'Dirty Tricks' scandal are still on the payroll.
And probably the majority of those on the payroll had nothing to do with it or didn't even work for BA at the time. Get over it.

And as for the premature death of Concorde wrought by ba,
Your ability to ignore the facts which are inconvenient to your doctrine is both remarkable and frightening. One can only hope you keep a more open mind when you fly. Clearly you consider the role of Airbus and Air France in Concordes history to be inconsequential, and you have presumably overlooked the fact that were it not for BA Concorde would have ceased flying in 2000 after the Gonesse accident.


National flag carrier? Not since Ailing Bob's graffiti on the tails gave Richard Branson the chance to pick up the mantle.
Who said anything about flag carriers? But whilst your on the subject, painting a union flag on a winglet does not make you a flag carrier, especially when its on the side of an Icelandic registered aircraft. As for Bob Ayliing, he went a long time ago. Like I said before, get over it.
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Old 21st Oct 2003, 19:04
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If the reliability that Concorde's shown over the past few months is anything to go by, then Airbus must have withdrawn support ages ago!
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Old 21st Oct 2003, 19:28
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Following from today's Justplanes.com:

British Airways (Oct 21, 2003)
In its last week of service Concordes are operating around 20 farewell flights which are to culminate
with the final arrival of 3 aircraft into London on Friday. The plan is to have 3 Concordes land in
succession on Heathrow's north runway.
The current planning for tha aircraft, subject to last minute change is as follows :
G-BOAC = will go to the Manchester Airport Viewing Park.
G-BOAD = will go to the Intrepid Air and Space Museum in New York City.
G-BOAE = will go to the Museum of Flight in Seattle.
G-BOAF = will go to Filton for a new Aviation Heritage Center.
G-BOAG = will go to a Barbados group.
Seen below is Concorde 'G-BOAC' making its final appearance at Birmingham yesterday.

A few questions:
1/ When will the "real" final Concorde departures be from LHR, and when will the "real" final trans-atlantic crossing take place and which flight will be the "real" final landing...?
2/ Who's this Barbados Group? The other final resting places make some sense.
3/ Interesting to note that our friends across the pond will get two aircraft, one too many perhaps?
4/ Can the aircraft fly LHR/SEA non-stop?

Hat's off to a beautiful aircraft....

(PS _ I won't be at LHR - sounds like to big a mess!! Better in front of BBC hopefully....
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Old 21st Oct 2003, 19:57
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G-BOAE will fly to first JFK, then possibly ORD, and then onto SEA

I'm not sure of the history behind this Barbados group, but I know there is a similar group over here trying to keep AG flying...
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Old 21st Oct 2003, 20:03
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The Metroploitan Line derailed at Hammersmith Station and the Northern Line at Camden Town. Not aware of any problems with the Picc. Transport for London - Tubes.
Really, Paxboy, check your facts! the Met does not run to Hammersmith Station. As it was, it was a Piccadilly Line Train at Barons Court that derailed. And it will be fine for the 24th to travel to LHR.

I'm planning on being at EDI on Friday for the departure, but wanted to know where it was being parked and which routing it will use to arrive/leave. Some help with that and the exact timings, as all I've read is mixed.

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Old 21st Oct 2003, 20:20
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Don't know if it'll be the last one, but GBOAF will be turning up at Filton mid November with a flypast of the Bristol/Bath/Severn area thrown in.
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Old 21st Oct 2003, 21:00
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Jordy: "Really, Paxboy, check your facts! the Met does not run to Hammersmith Station. As it was, it was a Piccadilly Line Train at Barons Court that derailed."

Yes, it was the Picc, I had heard the Hammersmith part and not listened to the radio report more closely, my apologies. With regards to the Metropolitan line at Hammersmith ...

I must be showing my age. It was always part of the Metro line, including the main line to Amersham. Some years ago, they started to call it the Hammersmith & City line, probably some fabulous piece of management blah. However, if you look on an old map of the system, I think that this line (terminating at Hammersmith) will be shown as Metropolitan. I'm sure that a bright and snappy young thing like yourself [cf. your profile] will forgive an old buffer for recalling his own headstrong days of youth.
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Old 21st Oct 2003, 21:09
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So that leaves G-BOAA and BOAB. I presume that these are the two that weren't modified to current specifications, and as such will not fly again. So what happens to them, personally I think it would be a travesty if one was not preserved at LHR.
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Old 22nd Oct 2003, 01:22
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Really FLY the Concorde

http://www.concordesimulator.com/

Enjoy
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Old 22nd Oct 2003, 01:30
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Question Concorde Cancelled

Why was BA002 JFK-LHR cancelled this morning...?
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Because Concorde didn't goto JFK yesterday?

She is touring the UK this week and according to other threads the service to New York was reduced for the week when the retirement was planned.
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