G'Day all,
A redundant here looking to get back into the industry so please excuse my naivety, it's been a couple of years. Does anyone have the new NJS agreement handy? It doesn't appear to be on the FWC site just yet and I'm sure that's the case seeing it has only been voted in. As I'm sure we've all seen NJS has opened up recruitment for B717 FOs and just I'm just trying to gather as much info on the future operation as I can before making decisions. ...not that I have many options down here in sunny old YMML at the moment anyway. Kind thanks in advance to any homo sapiens (PC enough?) that can offer up any useful information on the NJS situation |
If the rumours are true that plenty of NJS drivers are looking to the US, then they probably don't care about too much other than a stable income until they head off.
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Originally Posted by Theflyingsosijman
(Post 11249769)
G'Day all,
A redundant here looking to get back into the industry so please excuse my naivety, it's been a couple of years. Does anyone have the new NJS agreement handy? It doesn't appear to be on the FWC site just yet and I'm sure that's the case seeing it has only been voted in. As I'm sure we've all seen NJS has opened up recruitment for B717 FOs and just I'm just trying to gather as much info on the future operation as I can before making decisions. ...not that I have many options down here in sunny old YMML at the moment anyway. Kind thanks in advance to any homo sapiens (PC enough?) that can offer up any useful information on the NJS situation |
Originally Posted by aussieflyboy
(Post 11249796)
Just download the 2017 agreement. The pay is the same for the next 4 years with a 2% (ie: 3+% less then CPI) increase and when (if) the 220 is introduced you just reduce all hard fought conditions by 40%.
yeah, wasn’t expecting anything too much more than as described above. Thank you |
Originally Posted by Theflyingsosijman
(Post 11249769)
G'Day all,
A redundant here looking to get back into the industry so please excuse my naivety, it's been a couple of years. Does anyone have the new NJS agreement handy? It doesn't appear to be on the FWC site just yet and I'm sure that's the case seeing it has only been voted in. As I'm sure we've all seen NJS has opened up recruitment for B717 FOs and just I'm just trying to gather as much info on the future operation as I can before making decisions. ...not that I have many options down here in sunny old YMML at the moment anyway. Kind thanks in advance to any homo sapiens (PC enough?) that can offer up any useful information on the NJS situation If you are not currently flying then it may be worth it just to get current again. Don't come here thinking this is a lifestyle gig, there are much better offers out there for those with experience, and many are leaving. Rosters are interesting, a lot of duty for little flying hours, lots of paxing and waiting around. On the bright side you get to enjoy regular NTL overnights. Probably the only thing going for NJS currently is there's no back of the clock flying but it sounds like the A220 will change that. Hope that helps. |
Sounds like a good place to get a free A220 endorsement and then fvck off somewhere that pays for your contribution to the company.
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All good thoughts. Got my hands on the new agreement and from what I read you will only be held to one training bond correct? Example, It’s not like they can put you in a 3 year bond for the 717, then, 12 months later you do the a220 and the clock on your 3 years starts all over again. Essentially 4 years. So, two type ratings for 3 years service 🤔
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Originally Posted by Gunner747400
(Post 11249401)
Did anyone ever work out the cost of making the whole NJS pilot list redundant?
Seemed like a rather idle threat looking from the outside..... If the company did elect to wind down NJS it is unlikely that every pilot would hang around to the end to obtain a redundancy payment instead move on at the first available opportunity which in turn would reduce the cost burden to the company. All in all, the amount mentioned above would probably be seen by some IR people as worth spending to be able strike fear into other pilot groups at future negotiations. A certain someone nearly spent twice that amount on a house so he probably wouldn't even blink at signing that expense off to stick it to another group of workers. |
Regarding redundancy, A 1 yr F/o would receive a little over $2k
For a captain 9 yrs up to and not including 10 years they receive $61 k then 10 years plus 46k in redundancy. A rough guess the total amount would be closer to $5mil or less |
All this talk about not flying the 320s, from what I’ve heard the variation to SH was voted up at 66%
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Qantas is turning into a giant episode of the series Succession
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Originally Posted by SHVC
(Post 11250343)
All this talk about not flying the 320s, from what I’ve heard the variation to SH was voted up at 66%
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It was 80%, can’t wait until it arrives as I’ll get at least 10-20% better take home pay, regardless of what everyone thinks. The last thing I want is ping pong between SYD and MEL only getting stick hours while I can cruise for 8 hours hassle free and triple my DTA.
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20$ is that the next trance of aircraft come with the proviso of two years Pay freeze and 2% for the life of the 5 year EBA.
Somthing similar for long haul. These guys are ethical low life’s after two years of stand down! Primarily Alan. And management who refuse to support THEIR staff. ’Alan’ loves to preach about gay rights, provide fairness to females, but when it comes to paying staff a wage that maintains increasing life and social expenses it’s all out the window for a shameful comparative approach at all expense. |
A two year pay freeze at the next LH EBA is the hill I will die on while inflation is what it is. I don't care what they threaten.
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Originally Posted by Fonz121
(Post 11250748)
A two year pay freeze at the next LH EBA is the hill I will die on while inflation is what it is. I don't care what they threaten.
Threats and bribery. Disgusting. |
Even with the $5000 bribe? Threats and bribery. Disgusting. For those out of the loop: This gives us the confidence to offer EBA-covered employees a $5,000 recovery boost. This is a one-off payment that we hope goes some way to acknowledging the hard work and sacrifice in recent years, and the challenging restart happening now.The recovery boost will be offered to eligible employees after their new EBA is finalised. There are around 4,000 employees who have already agreed to a new EBA in the current cycle (which includes the two year wage freeze), so they will receive the $5,000 shortly. |
Originally Posted by Bug Smasher Smasher
(Post 11250759)
Even with the $5000 bribe?
Threats and bribery. Disgusting. |
’Alan’ loves to preach about gay rights, provide fairness to females, but when it comes to paying staff a wage that maintains increasing life and social expenses it’s all out the window for a shameful comparative approach at all expense |
Originally Posted by Fonz121
(Post 11250748)
A two year pay freeze at the next LH EBA is the hill I will die on while inflation is what it is. I don't care what they threaten.
$5000…shove it |
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