Since the start Australia has had 1,162 deaths.
Deaths below 50 years old = 19 male and 5 female, that is a total of 24 deaths under 50.
That just over doubles at below 60 to a total of 61 deaths.

Fixed your quote for you.

Let's see how receptive the WA population is to closed borders when your State Daddy runs a budget with a few billion deficit instead of riding on the coat-tails of the major miner's...Because, let's face it, the reason, the only reason WA was able to produce a budget surplus, was the iron ore boom. It wasn't good management so much as good luck - or else your State Daddy and his Government would have been producing a surplus every year for the past 4 they were in Government, without increasing Government debt in years to come, you'd have to think.... To quote from that kids movie Monsters Inc, "Your luck will run out, eventually..."

When was that WA vote for independence again? Maybe the push for independence will go conveniently quite !!!

Hold that thought. Lets go back to April 2020, when Dan said we will spend 1.3m in the coming months to set up 4000 ICU beds extra PPE etc. Well, if he kept his word, never mind the present lockdown their would not of been a lockdown this year. That was the plan even without a vaccine back then. With those beds in place today, absolute zero reasons to be in lockdown. As it stands, their is about 500 ICU beds at the moment. That is the biggest failure, never mind vaccine roll out.

Vic has a road map now, QLD have an idea about when to open their border today now also. If it was not bad enough the federal government had an arbitrary 80% vaccination rate QLD want 90%. QLD currently only 59.3% first dose one could guess it would be well into 2022 before that 90% number is reached, say good by to the xmas rush for all the airlines only so many SY-ML and FiJi flights you can do.

The silver lining in NSW with 81% first dose infection rates have have stabilized over the last two weeks and have even started to indicate a decrease with today being the first time below 1000 with testing rates still high (124650 today) Victoria is on the increase, but, with their increase in vaccination should see the same trend as NSW. This should allow NSW and VIC to be able travel further abroad to other countries for xmas and even Easter.

Actually QLD will hit 90% double vaccinated for 16yrs+ about the 20th December.

https://m.covidbaseau.com/vaccinations/

Oh, that’s just a forecast. QLD will slow down and struggle to get near 80%.

You got a confirmed source for that, because all I can see is this article from the Daily Mail which, if you look past the factual errors and spelling mistakes, uses phrases like “is set to”, “is understood”, “could” (ie no firm information) and quotes no sources.

90% It has been on the news all afternoon.

https://www.google.com.au/amp/s/www....f674e231%3famp

Thats only an hour old. Palaszczuk told reporters Jeanette Young would like to see up to 90% but looks like she has pushed back on it and won’t be waiting until 90% to reopen. Pretty fair chance QLD would never get to 90% anyway if you’ve got Palmer, Christensen and Kelly running around.

On Sky “News”, with the usual “is expected to”, “is said to be” and “is set to” with no confirmed quotes or plans, in an article from Peter Gleeson, who’s pretty dumb, even for a Sky “News” hack.

It would be good if whoever’s staffing the various Murdoch entities to talk to each other because their other publication, news.com.au is carrying the quotes of the Premier’s spokesperson denying that article:

Queensland government rejects reports state will stay closed until 90 per cent vaccine coverage

In Singapore, no one fully vaccinated and below 70 years old has died or been in the ICU. Only 0.38% of fully vaccinated patients in their 70s has been in the ICU or died, this rate is actually lower than for unvaccinated people in their 30s which is 0.84%.

Vaccination rates were going up at about 1% per day but tailed off quite sharply after 80% coverage was reached.

A 90% rate will take a very long time to achieve and isn’t really a practical aim before opening up in Australia.

Yeah except there wasn’t a firm figure given, but a “maybe” waffle answer. She will do what the polling and public pressure dictate. She’s a true politician in all the worst ways.

It seems that Jeanette's advice is not so desirable when it doesn't meet the political narrative. Might be time for her to assume her Governor's duties.

Looks like she might have backflipped on the backflip though. Non-committal today when asked about the 90% figure. Avoided giving a number, waiting for Doherty modelling to national cabinet in a fortnight. Meanwhile the tourism industry is screaming for certainty. Muppet.

About 12 mins in if you can bear to watch it.


Direct quote from the Qld Premier, 21/9/21

She claims NATIONAL PLAN now after doing her own thing, just like McClown. Muppets.

I wonder if most people have read the “National Roadmap”.

It’s a one page PDF.

National Plan to transition Australia’s National COVID-19 Response

Phase C at 80%:

Measures may include:

Maximise vaccination coverage

Minimum ongoing baseline restrictions,
adjusted to minimise cases without lockdowns

Highly targeted lockdowns only

Continue vaccine booster programme;

Exempt vaccinated residents from all domestic restrictions;

Abolish caps on returning vaccinated Australians;

Allow increased capped entry of student, economic, and humanitarian visa holders;

Lift all restrictions on outbound travel for vaccinated Australians;

Extend travel bubble for unrestricted travel to new candidate countries (Singapore, Pacific)

Gradual reopening of inward and outward international travel with safe countries and proportionate quarantine and reduced requirements for fully vaccinated inbound travellers.

There’s actually nothing in concrete about interstate borders. It is up to individual jurisdictions, like the NT which has said they want more than 80% or Tasmania which has said they’re aiming for 90%.

The point about “exemption of vaccinated residents domestic restrictions” could be interpreted to mean interstate travel for vaccinated residents, but it’s a vague sentence.

The National Roadmap is actually quite lacking in specific detail. Even lockdowns are only used in a “highly targeted” manner, but leaving questions about how that is defined.

Ahh yes the road map!! Filled with arbitrary numbers and rubbish ideas no where else seems to have such a plan, Australia can do anything bettter. Meanwhile in ML a rioter filled a bottle with urine and hurled it at a journalist our country is no better than any 3rd world $hit hole at the moment. These governments are making sure they send us to economic ruin also. 2022 is shaping up to be one hell of a ride.

The national roadmap is so vague, every sentence could be validly interpreted in many different ways. Did they consult CASA to write it?

A road map that the main road is not controlled by a human at all is going to be vague. It's like letting 10,000 cows loose at one en of a paddock and then asking for the road map of which way they will travel to the other end for feed and water.

The whole idea of drawing up a map for something intangible is just stupid, all it is for is opposition screamers to yell at something when it doesn't go exactly as planned. Where every educated person knows, we are waiting on the right signals to open up, so the goal posts are variable depending on what the virus does next. It's like lets draw a road map for our way out of Afghanistan, and then the Taliban don't follow your rules, dammit, why didn't they stick to our plan....

Following on from today’s earthquake, the Victorian government has admitted their roadmap possibly has a few cracks in it!

If we weren’t an international laughing stock, we are now. Only a matter of time before North Korea offers to send peacekeepers to Victoria.

Just popped in to see/read the same prolific habitual posters saying the same bull****/fear, love it:-)
Now where was I? Oh yeah out in the community un-vaxed & oddly enuf I'm still alive, much to the horror of those that believe I ought to be dead, several times over:-)lol
BTW Australia has always been a laughing stock, couldn't organize a root in a brothel:-)

Are you seriously posting/gloating on a Professional Pilots forum about a fact that is keeping a very large amount of us out of a job ?

Seriously… you think that’s a good thing? On a forum like this? You need help.

There is a direct statistical correlation between individuals of low cognitive function and vaccine hesitancy.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8133799/

“In conclusion, people with lower scores on standard tests of cognitive function reported being less willing to take up the future offer of vaccination for COVID-19. It is possible that erroneous social media news reports have complicated decision-making. Special efforts should be made to communicate clear information about vaccine efficacy and safety so that everyone—including those who report being less likely to choose vaccination—can make well-informed choices.”

Which group are you in? For or against? Those still pushing the it’s my right not to be vaccinated crap are effectively saying I’m a bit slow on the uptake here yet reinforce the Dunning Kruger Effect of believing their own bullish t.

Watching the moronic behaviour during the Melbourne protest yesterday, it was obvious that the cohort was at the bottom end of the gene pool when intelligence was handed out.

Im not too smart to think how smart I am but certainly not dumb enough to think I’m smart.

Be careful.

We’re several months behind the rest of the world, but it will be like this soon if you don’t get vaccinated:

Sorry Anti Vaxxer

Herman Cain Award

All the people featured on those two sites thought they were safe, not elderly, not at risk, had a healthy immune system so no vaccine needed. They weren’t going to be part of a “medical experiment”, they weren’t going to be “sheep” and “blindly obey Dr Fauci and Bill Gates”. They didn’t fall victim to “big pharma” and the lies of the “lame stream media”.

And after all those posts there’s usually a post about testing positive but no need to worry as they have a “healthy immune system”. Then a post asking for Ivermectin or Hydroxychloroquine. Then a post from their partner or family member informing everyone that person is in hospital on a ventilator. And then the ultimate post of their demise.

This should be a wake up call, these are people aged between 30-60 who maybe healthy or have minor underlying conditions like high blood pressure or being slightly overweight (the overweight BMI is lower than you think) that a large number of people who think they’re otherwise healthy have.

Please, do the right thing by yourself, your family, your friends, your community, your workmates and your industry and get vaccinated.

Nailed it
prepared to take Ivermectin but won’t get a vaccine. Natural selection folks.

Like my dad wont get vaxxed but asked me the other about using mail forwarders to get ivermectic from india

Send him up here and we can put him through the drenching race with the sheep, no worries!

I see the inept corrupt Govt now say Moderna is only avail for up to 59 yrs olds yet recently I heard that anyone over 16 was eligible, any wonder this country is a working clusterf*ck!

Why do you care?

There is no doubt that Borders will not open probably for the foreseeable future.
I see QF group will go into administration, wipe most of their debt and come back leaner and meaner, watch this space !

I tend to disagree and remain more optimistic about the future than ever. Why? Most Joe Bloes have had enough and share similar views to me.

For those of us who have had both doses of vaccines we want to live our lives and are no longer concerned about contracting COVID. Sure I’d rather not get it but if it kills me in the process after being double vaccinated so be it. Truth is Australia still living under a rock 18 months on is slowly killing all of us.

Largely because ~ 50% of the eligible population are NOT yet double vaccinated.

Correct, but like it or not we are getting towards our targets

and is the fault of the federal government. If we accepted the pfizer deal we'd be laughing right now, instead we're way behind the rest of the developed world.

...and if the crystal ball had been more accurate and predicted the media misinformation misrepresentation beatup ****storm about AZ things might have been different.

You'll have your chance to "stick it" to ScoMo sometime in the next 8 months or so.
Don't think you will succeed though, enough time for ScoMo to put lipstick on the past and I don't think enough will vote for Albanese....but how about we wait and see, wouldn't be the first time I've misjudged things.

Reading posts from people who can only bang on about the past - and jeez it's been a brutal 18 months - is just outright depressing.
If your intention is to feed on that depression - free razorblades anyone?? - then press on, you're being unfortunately far too successful in your pursuit IMHO.

For everyone else there is today (you're alive, beats being dead surely?) and with vaccinations ramping realistic expectations that 2022 should/will be heading in the way of "normal".

Cheers.:ok:

Galdian, well said mate. :D And completely agree, the media have done just as much harm to this country while trying to navigate COVID than any Fed/State Govt (Lib or Labor). Saying that the media also appear to be turning a corner in favour of living a life beyond COVID.

what Pfizer deal?